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i am on peopletracer as well, i have found out this afternoon the last known address of Andrew until 2003 which is probably when he died

Married Douglas in 1966

probably best ask her and to find her you will need to buy credits for 192.com which is the telephone/electrol roll of the 21st centry all online

Ann Smith who is my aunty became Ann Clouston

Well andrew would have been 28 so its possible. but I,ve seatched and cant find children.

In 1912 all births had to be registered WITH the mothers maiden name so with your family your father would be dennis smith mothers maiden name mcvay with children of Andrew and Hilda it would be **** smith mothers maiden name Warne now I,ve tried and cant find anything BUT

IF andrew and hilda were not married the fathers name didnt need to be put on the birth certificate .......if they were not married the mum hilda in this case could only do it if Andrew was present .....OR the birth could have been re registered after the marriage of the parents ( but again that was after a certain date 1970ish I think)

i have tried to look for a ANN SMITH who married but thats ......hard work

is there anyone who you could ask?

yes i got your message thankyou, my Aunty Ann is still alive. So how would i find out if Andrew and Hilda had any children

At the top of the page is MESSAGES I have sent the info required as you say the person could be alive

so to look for a child born ann smith with a mother with her maiden name you put in the top box of freebmd SMITH then in the box Spouse/Mother surname you add warne and add possible dates 1930 to 1960 and search


I cant find anything

I doesnt mean she doesnt excist it means she may not be entered her yet name may not be Ann....

And so if you take the above as being right how did Andrew marry Hilda in 1943
>>Smith Andrew T Warne Nthmbld.S. 10b 655 Scan available - click to view
>>Warne Hilda Smith Nthmbld.S. 10b 655
in nthmbld ?Northumberland South

This is why this game isnt easy

Prehaps you could ask on FIND LIVING RELATIVES which is on the list to your left they may be able to help

Hilda would have been his 2nd wife. Im sure youll understand about being weary about giving names out over the internet but here goes.

Andrew was married to my gran Annie Smith, they had a son called Dennis Smith, he was my dad. He was born in 1946 and died in 1990

Andrew and my gran also had a daughter called Ann, i dont know when she was born but is about 70yrs old and is still alive.

yes but what will this give you ..we know its right coz the electrol roll says so ...we need to find children dont we?

im going to go with
London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 about Andrew T Smith
Name: Andrew T Smith
Year: 1951
County or Borough: Hendon
Ward or Division/Constituency: Hendon Central
Street address: 26a FULLER STREET
Reference Number: MR/PER/C/0852


With Ann.

Hilda was his second wife then ?

Do you know if he had any children at all?

Why did he marry in hendon coz thats London?


dont worry about missing stuff but even the smallest of info is the bit we use to fit the puzzle together with

KempinaPartyhat i missed ur question earlier. I found out on Ancestry that he died in 2003. I rang the registrar in Newcastle, they told me he had died in Nov 2003 aged 85. I visited his grave today which is where i then found out his wife Hilda Smith had died 21st Jan 2010 aged 94yrs

I would say its your great granny and Andrew T smith is your great grandad and they used they same name for their son your grand ad


Is this what you think Alviegal

im sorry but im totally lost here, who is Elizabeth Emma Smith?

so Damion

Andrew T smith your grandad and his wife Ann smith lived with his parents

Andrew T smith and his wife Elizabeth Emma Smith in 1937


so now we have to find andrew and Annie/ann children

Yes thats what I private mailed you about because you cant go on the electrol roll untill 18 so these four people are parents and son and daughter in law

London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 about Andrew T Smith
Name: Andrew T Smith
Year: 1951
County or Borough: Hendon
Ward or Division/Constituency: Hendon Central
Street address: 26a FULLER STREET
Reference Number: MR/PER/C/0852


With Ann.




London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 about Andrew T Smith
Name: Andrew T Smith
Year: 1963
County or Borough: Hendon
Ward or Division/Constituency: Hendon South
Street address: 1st Fir. FL
Reference Number: MR/PER/C/1127


with Elizabeth E.

So was Elizabeth a wife to one of the Andrews.

Andrew married Annie/ann mcvay in 1937 at the age of 19 he probably did but we need time to look .....its not an instant resolve

As I said earlier FREEBMD isnt run and paid for its free so they havent got FULLY to the post 1937 records yet

what id like to know is has Andrew Thompson Smith had any more family, Im on FreeBMD website but not getting anywhere with it, maybe i need to get a female friend to help me search, it probably needs a womans touch hahaha