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Nite nite now.

Dea Xxx

thank you!! Been away from my computer - funeral to attend today :-( I have sent ALL of your kind works over to Christine now ……… they are putting it all together and then will show the 94 yr old and see if that flags up anymore insights.
Thanks again for everything you have been a star xxxxx

nudge !! Xxxxx

I have posted Margaret and her family with parents William and Sarah and siblings, right back to her birth above :-S

Dea x

From Christine:Thanx for that info. It ties up with what I already have. But can u ferret out Margaret allen's original family. Her father was William Allen on wedding certificate, but I can' t find Margaret Allen born in Blackburn with a family of allen's. This means I can't find her mums / siblings names and can't delve further back Thanx in anticipation xx
the mystery deepens …...

You are very welcome Eunice. :-D

I think I have come to a full stop with Sarah though - I can't seem to find her on 1841 so if you want to go back any further with her, I think the next step has to be one of her marriage certs.

Dea Xxx

Oh my!!!! What a lot of things you are finding!! I am going to cut n paste and send to Chris and Jack, Dea ,we will never be able to thank you enough for your help and kindness xx <3

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Cleaver Street, Blackburn, Lancashire, England
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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Hallam Head Married Male 36 1815 Grinder Cotton Blackburn, Lancashire
Sarah Hallam Wife Married Female 26 1825 Weaver Cotton Blackburn, Lancashire
Margaret Hallam Daughter Unmarried Female 1 1850 - Blackburn, Lancashire ***
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First name(s) Sarah
Last name Hallam
Relationship to household head Wife
Marital condition Married
Gender Female
Age 26
Birth year 1825
Occupation Weaver Cotton
Birth place (other) -
Birth place -
Birth town Blackburn
Birth county Lancashire
House number -
House name -
Street Cleaver Street
Parish Blackburn
City or borough Blackburn
County Lancashire
Country England
Ecclesiastical disctrict Trinity Chapelry
Parliamentary borough Blackburn
Registration district Blackburn
Enumeration district 1w
Series HO107
Piece number 2259
Folio 103
Page 8
Record set 1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Category Census, land & surveys
Record collection Census
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Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1843
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference

HALLAM William GRAYSTON Sarah Blackburn, St Mary the Virgin (Blackburn Cathedral) Blackburn CE12/5/229

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Sarah's maiden name was Greyston or Greyson:

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1850
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
HALLAM Margaret Blackburn Blackburn GREYSON B/39/18


1858:
BOLTON Cecily Blackburn Blackburn GRAYSTON B/76/13

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Marriages Dec 1857 (>99%)
**Bolton William Blackburn 8e 430 Scan available - click to view
Fawcett Hannah Blackburn 8e 430 Scan available - click to view
**Hallam Sarah Blackburn 8e 430 Scan available - click to view
Tracey Patrick Blackburn 8e 430 Scan available - click to view



1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
31, Luke Street, Blackburn, Lancashire, England
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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Thos Armorod Head Married Male 43 1818 Victualler Blackburn, Lancashire
Jane Armorod Wife Married Female 34 1827 - Blackburn, Lancashire
William Bolton Boarder Married Male 28 1833 Cotton Factory Weaver Blackburn, Lancashire
Sarah Bolton Boarder Married Female 38 1823 Cotton Factory Weaver Blackburn, Lancashire
Margaret Wolson Boarder Unmarried Female 12 1849 Scholar Blackburn, Lancashire ***
Ann Wolson Boarder Unmarried Female 8 1853 Scholar Blackburn, Lancashire
Ruby Bolton Boarder Unmarried Female 2 1859 - Blackburn, Lancashire (??Cisly ? on image)
Ellen Bolton Boarder Unmarried Female 1 1860 - Blackburn, Lancashire
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First name(s) Sarah
Last name Bolton
Relationship Boarder
Marital condition Married
Gender Female
Age 38
Birth year 1823
Occupation Cotton Factory Weaver
Birth town Blackburn
Birth county Lancashire
House number 31
House name -
Street Luke Street
Parish Blackburn
City or borough Blackburn
Town -
County Lancashire
Country England
Municipal ward Trinity
Parliamentary borough Blackburn
Hamlet -
Ecclesiastical district Holy Trinity
Registration district Blackburn
Enumeration district 40
Piece number 3101
Folio number 7
Page number 7
Record set 1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
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NB - ALL children are 'BOLTON' on image


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1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Smith Street, Blackburn, Lancashire, England
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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Bolton Head - Male 41 1830 - Lancashire
Sarah Bolton Wife - Female 46 1825 - Lancashire
Ann Halam Bolton Daughter - Female 18 1853 - Lancashire
Cisley Bolton Bolton Daughter - Female 12 1859 - Lancashire
Alice Bolton Daughter - Female 8 1863 - Lancashire
Mary Bolton Daughter - Female 4 1867 - Lancashire
Charles Grundy Son-In-Law - Male 27 1844 - Lancashire
Margreat Grundy Daughter - Female 24 1847 - Lancashire ***
Jefrey Grundy Grandson - Male 2 1869 - Lancashire
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First name(s) Jefrey
Last name Grundy
Relationship Grandson
Marital condition -
Gender Male
Age 2
Birth year 1869
Birth town -
Birth county Lancashire
House number -
House name -
Street Smith Street
Parish Blackburn
City or borough Blackburn
Town Blackburn
Village -
County Lancashire
Country England
Municipal ward Trinity
Parliamentary borough Blackburn
Ecclesiastical District -
Registration district Blackburn
Enumeration district 55
Series RG10
Piece number 4179
Folio number 44
Page 29
Record set 1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Category Census, land & surveys
Record collection Census
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For reference:

Marriage: 30 May 1868 St Peter, Blackburn, Lancashire, England
Charles Grundy - 24, weaver, Bachelor, 18 Bullen St.
Margaret Allen - (X), 20, weaver, spinster, 18 Bullen St.
Groom's Father: Richard Grundy, weaver
Bride's Father: William Allen, grinder
Witness: John Latland, (X); Elizabeth Haworth, (X)
Married by Certificate by: Henry Elwell
Register: Marriages 1866 - 1871, Page 47, Entry 93
Source: LDS film 1849646

Dea x

What was William's occupation on the marriage cert please?

Dea x

Chris says Thank you BUT can any of you geniuses out there help her with the next bit please? Thanx for that info. It ties up with what I already have. But can u ferret out Margaret allen's original family. Her father was William Allen on wedding certificate, but I can' t find Margaret Allen born in Blackburn with a family of allen's. This means I can't find her mums / siblings names and can't delve further back Thanx in anticipation Chris xx

lol - Christine will love this and yes, I think you are right here. I heard her mention both a Richard and Jeffrey plus Allan/Hallam/ Allam!! will pas it on :-)

That looks about right to me Maryb.

I found all the birth reg's to confirm mmn on LancsBMD but not John Williams:

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1868
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
GRUNDY Jeffrey Blackburn Blackburn ALLEN B/131/37
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1870
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
GRUNDY Sarah Alice Blackburn Blackburn ALLEN B/143/1
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1872
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
GRUNDY Margaret Ann Blackburn Blackburn ALLEN B/151/47
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1873
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
GRUNDY Richard Blackburn Blackburn ALLEN B/160/72
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1878
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
GRUNDY George Blackburn Blackburn ALLEN B/194/50
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1880
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
GRUNDY Ellen Blackburn Blackburn ALLEN B/210/35
Total records matching : 6.


However, this was the birth I thought matched but there was no marriage for a Grundy/Hallam:

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1875
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
GRUNDY John William Blackburn Blackburn HALLAM B/175/30

Looks like a clear case of someone trying to sound 'posh' and putting their H's were there 'hare' non !! (as my gran used to say ;-) :-D )

Dea Xxx

John William married 1899 his dad Charles a weaver (Dead)
A Charles Grundy died Preston 1892.

Charles Grundy born @ 1844 Preston.
Charles Grundy age 24 a weaver of Bullen Street son of Richard Grundy (Weaver) married Margaret Allen age 20 a weaver of 18, Bullen Street.

1871 19 Bullen Street lancashire
Richard Grundy (Weaver) born @ 1814
Alice Grundy @ 1820.

1851 Richard and Alice Grundy with James Metcalf born 1804 Preston states Alice is sister and Richard brother in law.

Maryb.

Edit 1871 Blackburn D55 > 30
Charles Gramley (Grundy) 27
Margaret 24
Jeffrey 2.

1881 9,Smith Street Blackburn D55 >29
Charles Crundey (Grundy)
M Crundey
Jeffrey
J W son age 5 (John WilliamCrundy) SOLOMON

Hope the scan goes well Eunice and the trip to Canada sounds really exciting !

I am sure it will be great for him to meet his half brothers and I hope they all get on well.

Dea x

I will pass your comments on Dea, I really don't know. It is a family search for some friends - I think I have got as far as I am going to get with my own lot!- but it has been interesting helping them. Jacks dad went back to canada during WW2 and never heard from him again. With some research of my own, plus help from wonderful people like yourself on GrU, we were able to discover that Jack has three half brothers in Canada!!!! Best of all, he is flying out there in2 weeks to meet them all for the first time! I / we are so grateful to people like yourselves who are so generous with your time and knowledge. I will pass on your enquiry later ( am currently at royal Preston hospital waiting for hubby who has come for a scan!)
Thanks again to everyone, albeit a sad outcome for Solomon xx