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not as in the rhyme, but a real person! Sorry but info is very sparse. It comes from a 94 year old so unsure of its accuracy. "Uncle Sol" was born and lived his life in Blackburn Lancs. Born c1890, but died by suicide in the 1930's. Wife was called Mariah. That's all I know. I cannot find him anywhere, so am suspicious Solomon may have mean either a nickname or a middle name. I don't have other family names I'm afraid .... :-S

If Solomon were truly an uncle you should be able to trace him via your friend's mother or father.

Rose

No Mariah Grundys either.

Rose

its all they could give me tonight Rose ..... I guess its a bit late to ring up now, but I am just getting the ball rolling .....but they said they couldnt find him on free BMD either so I am not too hopeful of finding him to be honest :-( :-(

Well, I haven't found any deaths for a Solomon Grundy in the 1930s ...

Nothing in the newspaper archives that seems to fit ...

Do try to get some more info Eunice as this could be an interesting research.

Find out the names of the 94-year-old's parents.......that is vital

This is the most obvious candidate, depends how far out the memory of a 94 year old is:

1911 England Census
Name: Solomon Grundy
Spouse: Mary Ellen Grundy
Birth: abt 1880 - Wigan, Lancashire, England
Residence: 2 Apr 1911 - Ashton in Makerfield, Lancashire, England


England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
Solomon Grundy
Birth Date: abt 1880
Date of Registration: Sep 1950
Age at Death: 70
Registration district: Prescot
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 10f
Page: 164

Just a possible ,age a little out but Bapts 1887


England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 about Solomon Grundy
Name: Solomon Grundy
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 13 Mar 1880
Baptism Date: 26 Dec 1887
Baptism Place: Wigan, Lancashire, England
Father: Richard Grundy
Mother: Margaret Grundy
FHL Film Number: 1885687
Reference ID: yrs 1887-1888 p 197

Same Family in 1891.

1891 England Census about Salomon Grundy
Name: Salomon Grundy
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1880
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Richard Grundy
Mother's name: Margaret Grundy
Gender: Male
Where born: Pemberton, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Skelmersdale
Ecclesiastical parish: Skelmersdale St Paul
Town: Skelmersdale
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Ormskirk
Sub-registration district: Lathom
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3044
Folio: 92
Page Number: 18
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Grundy 46
Margaret Grundy 46
Edward Grundy 21
Richard Grundy 17
Henry Grundy 15
Salomon Grundy 11

Name: Solomon Grundy
Birth Date: abt 1880
Date of Registration: Sep 1950
Age at Death: 70
Registration district: Prescot
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 10f
Page: 164

I add this for consideration, .... but maybe wide of the mark?

Marriages Sep 1910

Grundy Simeon ...Bolton 8c 865
Whittaker Marinia ...Bolton 8c 865

In case it helps rule out Simeon posted by Gwyn, according to his service record he suffered from epiletic fits - maybe another question for your friend, if just to rule him out. He was discharged in April 1916 after suffering 3 fits in barracks.

Could this have any connection??? - although this would make his year of birth around 1876 !!!!

Lancashire Evening Post. 18th June, 1940:

TRAGIC DEATH AT BLACKBURN

Found at his home last night with throat injuries, Solomon Grundy (64),
unemployed moulder, of 256, Whalley Old Road, Blackburn, died in
Blackburn Infirmary today.

Dea x

John William Grundy 1876-1940

John William Grundy of 256 Whalley Old Rd died 18/6/1940 at Royal Infirmary Blackburn probate to widow Eliza Grundy £260 9s on 16/7/1940.

Maryb.

Lancashire Evening Post - 19th June 1940

Blackburn Ill Health tragedy

'Asked by an ambulance officer why he had inflicted a wound in his throat, JOHN WILLIAM GRUNDY (64) of 256 Whalley Old Road Blackburn replied 'I have cancer. I have not slept for 6 nights''

Revealed at inquest at Blackburn today. Inflicted wound on Monday and died the following day. Lining of man's stomach had almost gone. Suffering from infection of liver which would give severe pain. No evidence of cancer.


NB It would seem he was John William Grundy (possibly known as Solomon?)

1911


258 Whalley Old Road Blackburn, Blackburn, Lancashire, England


John William Grundy Head Married Male 36 1875 Iron Moulder Blackburn Lancs

Eliza Grundy Wife Married Female 34 1877 Cotton Weaver Blackburn Lancs





Marriages Sep 1899

Grundy John William Blackburn 8e 721
Tomlinson Eliza Blackburn 8e 721

1901


11, Moss Street, Blackburn, Lancashire, England


John W Grundy Head Married Male 25 1876 Moulder Iron Blackburn, Lancashire

Eliza Grundy Wife Married Female 24 1877 Weaver Cotton Blackburn, Lancashire

John Grundy Son - Male 0 1901 - Blackburn, Lancashire


possibly -

Deaths Sep 1901

Grundy John 0 Blackburn 8e 240

AAAhha !!! - Thank you Choccy !

It would appear then that this 'could' have been 'Uncle Sol' to someone but do we have the correct one for the one we are looking for?

He certainly committed suicide in the right area at around the right time.

His wife was not 'officially' a Mariah though ??

We really need some more info from the poster.

Dea x

Lancashire BMD

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1900

GRUNDY John Blackburn Southern Blackburn TOMLINSON BS/46/27

Yes - saw that Choccy - it seems to be the only birth to them.

Dea x

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966

Name: Eliza Grundy

Probate Date: 25 Oct 1944

Death Date 7 Aug 1944

Death Place: Blackburn

Registry: Llandudno

Eliza Grundy of 256 Whalley Old Road Blackburn widow died at 4 Brooklands Terrace Blackburn Administration to Eleanor Lancaster (wife of William Lancaster) and Harry Tomlinson motor mechanic

Effects - £3371 6s 4d