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That's all I can think that for some reason they didn't want to be found.

OK think Maureen has ruled out my possible passenger list - so back to the drawing board!

Well, as you say why no paper-trail following their marriage? No deaths, census etc - wonder if they simply changed name, maybe he got in trouble for something and was hiding under another name?

I think this is the family from the "incoming":

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about William Bernard Stark
Name: William Bernard Stark
Registration Year: 1891
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Aston
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 293
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New York, State Census, 1905 about William Stark
Name: William Stark
Birth Year: abt 1867
Birth Place: England
Age: 38
Gender: Male
Race: White
Residence Year: 1905
Residence: Greenburgh, Westchester, New York, USA
Relationship to Head: Head
Assembly District: 02
Election District: 03
Household Members:
Name Age
William Stark 38
Caroline Stark 37
Alice Stark 13
Bernard Stark 12
Gertrude Stark 9
John Stark 5
Source Citation: New York State Archives; Albany, New York; State Population Census Schedules, 1905
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1910 United States Federal Census about Gertrude Stark
Name: Gertrude Stark
Age in 1910: 14
Birth Year: abt 1896
Birthplace: Massachusetts
Home in 1910: Brooklyn Ward 21, Kings, New York
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Marital Status: Single
Father's Name: William Stark
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's name: Caroline Stark
Mother's Birthplace: England
William Stark 45
Caroline Stark 43
Mary H Stark 20
William B Stark 18
Gertrude Stark 14
Adrew J Stark 11

Maureen

Flip and all.....I really appreciate all your efforts. Kevin

Christine, yes Caroline may have been working group for the vicar but why no paper trail after marriage?
Kev

Possibly Great Barrington?...(Massachusetts)

Chris :)

I had the same thoughts Christine! There is this, could it be wife going to join husband?

From UK outbound passenger lists:
Caroline Stark
Gender:Female
Age:31
Birth Date:abt 1862
Departure Date:16 Sep 1893
Port of Departure:Liverpool, England
Destination Port:New York, USA
Ship Name:Campania
Search Ship Database:
Search the 'Campania' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Master:Hains

A "wife" travelling with Alice (4) and Wm (2) but not accompanied by her husband.

Edit, found them on NY arrivals but no more conclusive I'm afraid & I can't make out their final destination.

Probably missed something, but could Caroline have been working for the Vicar?

Marriages Sep 1875 (>99%)
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CHESSHYRE Alma Mary Cheltenham 6a 737
DENNY Edward Cheltenham 6a 737

http://www.lockwoodons.webspace.virginmedia.com/lockwooduk042/d5.htm

(above looks to relate from info. on below)


http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/STARK/2012-07/1342280766

Chris :)

I knew a man who worked on the railways all his life. When he retired he used to travel on the trains for free. He was an oap when I was small.

LOL true.

It may be that if Caroline's family had connections with a church in Gloucestershire that they decided to use that to get married. They would probably have got cheap train travel!

I just looked up the vicar and his wife on the1901 census....they are then living in Lambeth which is the area that Walter and Caroline come from..that's weird...or coincidence

Walter stark...engine driver....Charles Wright,inspector.

Witnesses. Are alma Mary denny who is the vicars wife and Henry wright who I think is Caroline brother as she has a brother of that name the vicar in Edward denny

Other half asked me to do something. Back now.

And the father's occupation and witnesses? :-)

Marriage 29-4-1886
Walter. Charlie Stark. and Caroline Jane Wright both age 24
Walter is a fireman
Address given..Walter, 3 St. George road battersea..Caroline, Kempley vicarage.
Fathers names Walter stark and charles wright..Charles wright is an inspector.

Kevin - could you tell us everything that is on the marriage certificate, ages occupations addresses witnesses.

The Kempley,Gloucestershire marriage is a mystery, why would they go there I wonder?