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Hi there,
I am unable to find any records of Maria Jane Biddle nee Drake. I have her as being born in Kensington but I don't know where I got that from. No searches show it.
Married William Walter Biddle ( my gt g/father) in 1887.
All information and suggestions will be welcomed.
Thankyou for reading.
Shae :-)

For ref.

1911

Name: Maria Biddle
Age in 1911: 49
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: London, United Kingdom
Civil Parish: Hammersmith
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 56 Rayleigh Road, West Kensington Park W
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 24
Estimated Marriage Year: 1887
Registration district: Fulham
Registration District Number: 3
Sub-registration district: South Hammersmith
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Piece: 254
Household Members:
Name Age
William Biddle 54
Maria Biddle 49
Walter Biddle 23
Violet Biddle 22
Arthur Biddle 19
Ivey Biddle 16

They have Maria's brother with them in 1891:
(both born Notting Hill, London)

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Straloch Terrace, Fulham, London, England
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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William W J Biddel Head Married Male 30 1861 Shop Blind Maker London
Marie J Biddel Wife Married Female 29 1862 - London
Walter C Biddel Son - Male 2 1889 - London
Violet A Biddel Daughter - Female 1 1890 - London
Walter Drake Brother In Law Single Male 18 1873 Blind Makers Assistant London
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First name(s) Walter
Last name Drake
Relationship Brother In Law
Marital condition Single
Gender Male
Age 18
Birth year 1873
Occupation Blind Makers Assistant
Birth town -
Birth county London
House name -
Street Straloch Terrace
Parish Fulham
Town -
County London
Country England
Municipal ward South Fulham
Parliamentary borough Fulham
Ecclesiastical district St Dionis
Registration district Fulham
Enumeration district 999
Series RG12
Piece number 54
Folio number 9
Page 12
Record set 1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
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Maybe? 3 Brothers baptised same day.

Name: Maria Jane Drake
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 27 Dec 1863
Father's Name: Francis Tewksbury Drake, Carpenter
Mother's name: Jane Maria Drake
Parish or Poor Law Union: Shepherds Bush St Stephen
Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham
Register Type: Parish Registers


Born 23 August 1858
Address: 3Claredon Place, Notting Hill (Marie gives her birthplace as Notting Hill on image of 1911 census)

This will be her in 1871 with parents and grandparebts:

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Clarendon Place, Kensington, London, England
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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Richard Newberry Head - Male 64 1807 - Oxfordshire
Sarah Newberry Wife - Female 61 1810 - Middlesex
Francis Drake Son-In-Law - Male 42 1829 - Middlesex
Jane Drake Daughter - Female 41 1830 - Middlesex
Francis Drake Grandson - Male 15 1856 - Middlesex
Frederick Drake Grandson - Male 13 1858 - Middlesex
Maria Drake Granddaughter - Female 11 1860 - Middlesex
Charles Drake Grandson - Male 9 1862 - Middlesex
Caroline Drake Granddaughter - Female 6 1865 - Middlesex
Arthur Drake Grandson - Male 4 1867 - Middlesex
Jane Drake Granddaughter - Female 2 1869 - Middlesex
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First name(s) Caroline
Last name Drake
Relationship Granddaughter
Marital condition -
Gender Female
Age 6
Birth year 1865
Birth town -
Birth county Middlesex
House number -
House name -
Street Clarendon Place
Parish Kensington
City or borough -
Town -
Village -
County London, Middlesex
Country England
Municipal ward St John & St James
Parliamentary borough Chelsea
Ecclesiastical District -
Registration district Kensington
Enumeration district 26
Series RG10
Piece number 39
Folio number 53
Page 50
Record set 1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
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Walter with this family:

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
34, Carthew RD, Hammersmith, Fulham, London, England
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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Francis Drake Head Married Male 53 1828 Builder Bishopgate, Middlesex
Jane Drake Wife Married Female 50 1831 - Kensington, Middlesex
Caroline Drake Daughter Single Female 16 1865 - Notting Hill, Middlesex
Arthur Drake Son Single Male 14 1867 - Notting Hill, Middlesex
Janey Drake Daughter Single Female 12 1869 Scholar Notting Hill, Middlesex
Walter Drake Son Single Male 9 1872 Scholar Notting Hill, Middlesex
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First name(s) Walter
Last name Drake
Relationship Son
Marital condition Single
Gender Male
Age 9
Birth year 1872
Occupation Scholar
Birth town Notting Hill
Birth county Middlesex
House number 34
House name -
Street Carthew Rd
Parish Hammersmith
Town -
County London, Middlesex
Country England
Registration district Fulham
Series RG11
Piece number 57
Folio 87
Page 23
Record set 1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
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1871

Name: Maria Drake
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Relation: Granddaughter
Father's Name: Francis Drake
Mother's name: Jane Drake
Gender: Female
Where born: Kensington, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Kensington
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: Kensington Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Household schedule number: 264
Piece: 39
Folio: 53
Page Number: 50
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Newberry 64
Sarah Newberry 61
Francis Drake 42
Jane Drake 41
Francis Drake 15
Frederick Drake 13
Maria Drake 11
Charles Drake 9
Caroline Drake 6
Arthur Drake 4
Jane Drake 2

Name: Francis Tewkesbury Drake
Registration Year: 1852
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Kensington
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1a
Page: 161
Records on Page:
Name
Francis Tewkesbury Drake
Kezia Malyon
Jane Ann Newberry
George Powell

Name: Francis Tewkesbury Drake, Carpenter
Spouse Name: Jane Ann Newberry
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 25 Dec 1852
Parish: Paddington St John
Borough: Westminster
Father Name: Francis Drake, Carpenter
Spouse Father: Richard Newberry, Fishman
Register Type: Parish Register


Both of Full Age and both of Star Street. Both witnesses Drakes.

1841

Name: Francis Drake
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1828
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Stepney
Hundred: Ossulstone (Tower Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Whitechapel
Sub-registration district: Mile End New Town
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 711
Book: 3
Folio: 23
Page Number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Garrett 60
Sarah Garrett 55
Willm Garrett 15
Frances Drake 35 Carpenter
Maria Drake 40
Themaul Drake 17 Mason
Francis Drake 13
Harriet Drake 11
Harriott Drake 7
John Drake 5

Oh Dea and rootgatherer you brought tears to my eyes with all the precious and valued information. Truly, thank you both so very much. Big koala hugs from Aus. If ever you're 'down under' (Queensland ) let me know....there's a bed for you for sure. xxx

Thank you Shaeloola - you are very welcome to anything we can find.

Do let us know if there is any further info you need help with.

Dea Xxx

P.S. - Thank you for the koala hugs too.

Dea Xxx

Pleasure to help Shaeloola. As Dea has said if you need anything further, just let us know.

The baptisms for Maria's brothers give the dates of birth. Let us know if you need them xx

Hi there RG and Dea
Hope you're both well and having a lovely summer.
I have been trying to get info re my gt uncle. Thomas Taylor B1898 Marylebone d 1915? 1917? fighting in WW1 France. My grandfather Charles Richard Tatlor B 1895 d1970. Parents Charles Taylor and Annie Barrett. Annie died not long after Thomas' birth. Both my grandfather Charles and his younger brother Thomas fought in France in an army corp that consisted of Bantams' They enlisted in London and fought together. My grandfather Charles seeing Thomas blown up. Both Charles and Thomas were put into a catholic orphanage after my gt grandfather remarried. He and his new wife had a son together Henry? I think. Any info would be wonderful. Kind regards Shae

Sorry typo, my grandfather was Charles Taylor not tatlor.

have you looked for Thomas on the CWGC site?

Which birth is his?

Births Mar 1897 (>99%)
Taylor Thomas Marylebone 1a 609 Scan available - click to view
Births Jun 1897 (>99%)
Taylor Thomas Henry Marylebone 1a 594 Scan available - click to view
Births Sep 1897 (>99%)
Taylor Thomas Richard Marylebone 1a 638 Scan available - click to view
Births Sep 1898 (>99%)
Taylor Thomas Joseph Marylebone 1a 561 Scan available - click to view
Taylor Thomas Samuel Marylebone 1a 556

Well, this would be his parents' marriage:

Marriages Mar 1894 (>99%)
Barrett Johanna Marylebone 1a 876
TAYLOR Charles Marylebone 1a 876


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Charles Taylor
Name: Charles Taylor
Estimated birth year: abt 1872
Age: 22
Spouse: Johanna Barrett
Spouse Age: 21
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 25 Mar 1894
Parish: St Marylebone
Borough: Westminster
Father Name: Charles Taylor
Spouse Father: Robert Barrett
Register Type: Parish Register


And, the family on 1901:

1901 England Census about Charles Taylor
Name: Charles Taylor
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1895
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Father: Charles Taylor
Mother: Herss Taylor
Birth Place: Marylebone, London, England
Civil Parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark Hamilton Terrace
County/Island: London
Country: England


Registration district: St Marylebone
Sub-registration district: St John
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 119
Folio: 73
Page Number: 40
Household schedule number: 264
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Taylor 30
Herss Taylor 31 (1st name 'could' be Mary ??)
Charles Taylor 6
Thomas Taylor 4
Henry Taylor 1



Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 119; Folio: 73; Page:

I can't see an obvious death for Thomas on CWGC site.

Dea x

Hi Ricochet
Thankyou for your time, it's much appreciated.
Yes I've looked there but I know so little about him. He hasn't got a middle name as far as i know so I'm assuming he is the first you have listed. I actually have that he died on the 24/09/1917 in France while fighting.

I can only see this Thomas on CWGC who died on that date but he isn't 'yours' :

TAYLOR, THOMAS JOSEPH

Rank:
Private
Service No:
15618
Date of Death:
24/09/1917
Regiment/Service:
Machine Gun Corps (Infantry)

69th Coy.
Panel Reference:
Panel 154 to 159 and 163A.
Memorial:
TYNE COT MEMORIAL

Where did you get the date from ?

Dea x

Heya Dea :-)
Hope you're well.
I missed your first post.
I found the date on a relatives tree but I don't know how he came about it. Taylor isn't his line of family. I've searched for 'bantam' regiments as both Charles and Thomas were in one apparently but access is limited.
Yes, that's the census records i have of them Dea. Charles and Thomas aren't on the 1911 census with their father as they had been put into a catholic orphanage.
I know my grandad, Charles Richard Taylor was born on 15/01/1895.
Shae x