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This birth would have made the groom only 21 in 1925

Births Dec 1904 (>99%)
Morrison Patrick Manchester 8d 265

Are you 100% certain that he was born in England?

Thanks for your help,think I must wait for birth cert.

Just to rule him out-I think this the death Shirley found:
MORRISROE, MARTIN

Rank:
Fireman
Date of Death:
23/02/1918
Age:
47
Regiment/Service:
Mercantile Marine

S.S. "Remus" (Goole)
Panel Reference

Memorial
TOWER HILL MEMORIAL
Additional Information:
Husband of Catherine Morrisroe (nee Knight), of 20, Vermuyden Terrace, Goole. Born at Goole.


Maureen

On Patricks wedding cert.it says Martin was a floor layer.

The Martin found in 1901 was a brickie

Who were the witnesses to Patrick's marriage?

And when did Patrick die?

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Edwin Rylance Head Married Male 31 1880 Joiner House Northwich Image Transcription
Isabella Rylance Wife Married Female 31 1880 - Lancaster Image Transcription
Ivy Irene Rylance Daughter Single Female 8 1903 School Manchester Image Transcription
Florence Richardson Visitor Single Female 12 1899 School Manchester Image Transcription

First name(s) Ivy Irene
Last name Rylance
Relationship to household head Daughter
Marital condition Single
Gender Female
Age 8
Birth year 1903
Occupation School
Birth place Manchester
Address 6 Albert Avenue Gorton
Parish South Manchester
County Lancashire

This backs up your find, Maureen

Marriages Jun 1907 (>99%)
KNIGHT Catherine Goole 9c 1493
ROE Martin Morris Goole 9c 1493

I'm not at all convinced that Patrick was born in England...............there is no evidence anywhere to support the idea.

His place of marriage is the bride's Parish, and absolutely no clue as to his birthplace

The witnesses to Patricks marriage were Charles Cain & Nellie Boardman.I can not find a death for him.Ivy Irene remarried in 1935 to William Taylerson under the name Irene Morrison.

The witnesses to Patricks marriage were Charles Cain & Nellie Boardman.I can not find a death for him.Ivy Irene remarried in 1935 to William Taylerson under the name Irene Morrison.

How did she describe herself on her second marriage cert?

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1935
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
TAYLERSON William MORRISON Irene Chorlton-on-Medlock Register Office or Registrar Attended Manchester CHO_RM/402/195

How did Patrick qualify as your grandfather?

I can't see any Morrison/Rylance births

There was one child of the second marriage

This is where it gets tricky.On her 2nd wedding cert.it says spinster.Patrick & Ivy Irene had a daughter my birth mother but Ivy put her step-fathers name as her maiden name Currie.I have the same address on my birth mothers wedding cert.and also Irene Taylersons death cert.9 Standish Rd,Fallowfield,Manchester.

So she lied on her second cert........perhaps that's why she didn't give her correct first forename

What name did she give for her father when she married Taylerson?

You refer to your 'birth mother'..............so did you actually know ANY of this family?

Births Dec 1927 (>99%)
Morrison Nora I Currie Manchester S. 8d 221

This is beginning to sound VERY familiar..............................

Oh dear...........what a waste of time

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1324002

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1325725

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1325726

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/living_relatives/thread/1324315

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/living_relatives/thread/1326401

Edwin Morrison,which is a mixture of her Fathers name Edwin Rylance and her 1st marriage.I hope I have not spent the last 20 years on the wrong family.I only started with my birth certificate which only gave my Birth mothers name and I think even that was a lie.

Births Mar 1903 (>99%)
Rylance Ivy Irene Chorlton 8c 848

Doesn't tally, but she could have lied about her age as well as everything else

Deaths Mar 1938 (>99%)
TAYLERSON Irene 31 Manchester N. 8d 319

I'm leaving this now.........................don't like doing things twice when it it can be avoided

It may be a waste of time to you,but when you are adopted you are desperate for help,and I it was the 1st time I had posted about Martin Morrison.