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Thank you Reggie and others for all your help on the various boards. I am going to discontinue my membership of Genes Reunited at the end of June and take a look at FMP and Ancestry.

Ah yes - I hadn't spotted that. You are quite right of course about the certificates but I just need to be sure that I'm sending for the certs for the right people before I get started on that.

Thanks again.

If you look carefully, you will realise that the 1907 death is that of the daughter!

I would never use GR for research. Virtually all of the members who help on the boards use Ancestry or FMP. I currently use the latter.

But no research can be said to be accurate unless you get certs. They are vital.

Hi Reggie - Just trying to make all the fascinating stuff above add up but failing so far. I have now discovered that William H Turner b 1852 Sheffield on the 1901 census and married to Eliza Turner b 1848 in Hull is correct. I have him in 1891 census with the same wife and then in the 1881 census with Rose b 1851. Her death in 1907 doesn't seem to fit in with this.

Just wondering also if Genes Reunited is the best site to use. I am finding it very clunky and slow to respond. In fact sometimes it just does not respond at all. Does Ancestry allow for connections with other researchers? What's your view?

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Coop Head Married Male 62 1799 Farm Labourer Elmton, Nottinghamshire Image Transcription
Elizabeth Coop Wife Married Female 60 1801 - Hexthorpe, Yorkshire Image Transcription
Henry Beckitt Grandson - Male 5 1856 Scholar Warmsworth, Yorkshire Image Transcription
Thomas Grayson Lodger Unmarried Male 62 1799 Stone Quarrier Warmsworth, Yorkshire Image Transcription
Sarah Gregson Mother In Law Widow Female 89 1772 - Warmsworth, Yorkshire Image Transcription

First name(s) John
Last name Coop
Relationship Head
Marital condition Married
Gender Male
Age 62
Birth year 1799
Occupation Farm Labourer
Birth town Elmton
Birth county Nottinghamshire
House number -
House name -
Street Warmsworth Village
Parish Warmsworth

That's a bit of luck............mother in law in residence!
Although the transcription is erroneous.......her name is Grayson, as per Thomas, who I would suggest is her son

Joseph's wife

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place
John Grayson Male 70 1771 Yorkshire Image Transcription
Sarah Grayson Female 65 1776 Yorkshire Image Transcription
Thomas Grason Male 40 1801 Yorkshire Image Transcription
John Coop Male 40 1801 Yorkshire Image Transcription
Betsy Coop Female 40 1801 Yorkshire Image Transcription
John Coop Male 15 1826 Yorkshire Image Transcription
Geo Coop Male 10 1831 Yorkshire Image Transcription
Mary Coop Female 6 1835 Yorkshire Image Transcription

First name(s) Mary
Last name Coop
Gender Female
Age 6
Birth year 1835
Birth county Yorkshire
House number -
House name -
Street Warmsworth
Parish or township Warmsworth
City or borough -
Town Warmsworth

My pleasure.........................

This is absolutely fascinating Reggie and it will take me some time to sort it out. Many thanks for all your efforts.

Many thanks everyone for all this helpful information.

England and Wales Census, 1891

Name: Richard Wornes
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1891
Gender: Male
Age: 29
Relationship to Head of Household: Lodger
Birthplace: Tilshead, Wiltshire
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Sheffield
Sub-District: Brightside
Ecclesiastical Parish: Wicker Trinity
Parish: Brightside Bierlow
County: Yorkshire (West Riding)

Martha Charlesworth
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 20 April 1887 Wicker, Yorkshire, England
father: Henry Charlesworth
mother: Mary Ann


Alice Charlsworth
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 13 February 1889 Wicker, Yorkshire, England
father: Henry Charlsworth
mother: Mary Ann

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Deaths Sep 1891 (>99%)
Charlesworth Henry 39 Ecclesall B 9c 209

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Henry Charlesworth Head Married Male 28 1853 File Grinder Sheffield, Yorkshire Image Transcription
Mary A Charlesworth Wife Married Female 28 1853 - Grimsby, Lincolnshire Image Transcription
Ada Charlesworth Daughter Single Female 5 1876 - Sheffield, Yorkshire Image Transcription
Charles H Charlesworth Son Single Male 3 1878 - Sheffield, Yorkshire Image Transcription
Sarah J Charlesworth Daughter Single Female 1 1880 - Sheffield, Yorkshire

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Henry Charlesworth Head Married Male 38 1853 File Grinder Yorkshire Image Transcription
Mary A Charlesworth Wife Married Female 36 1855 - Lincolnshire Image Transcription
Ada Charlesworth Daughter Single Female 15 1876 Faelas Warehouse Girl Yorkshire Image Transcription
Charles H Charlesworth Son - Male 13 1878 Errand Boy Yorkshire Image Transcription
Sarah Jane Charlesworth Daughter - Female 11 1880 Scholar Yorkshire Image Transcription
Martha Charlesworth Daughter - Female 4 1887 - Yorkshire Image Transcription
Alice Charlesworth Daughter - Female 2 1889 - Yorkshire

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Marriages Jun 1874 (>99%)
Charlesworth Henry Sheffield 9c 500
Jefferys Mary Ann Sheffield 9c 500

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Richard Womes Head Married Male 42 1859 Railway Drayman Tilshead, Wiltshire Image Transcription
Mary Ann Womes Wife Married Female 44 1857 - Grimsby, Yorkshire Image Transcription
Martha Charlesworth Step Daughter Single Female 14 1887 Burnisher (Silver) Sheffield, Yorkshire Image Transcription
Alice Charlesworth Step Daughter Single Female 12 1889 - Sheffield, Yorkshire Image Transcription
Harriett Womes Daughter Single Female 6 1895 - Sheffield, Yorkshire Image Transcription
Violet Womes Daughter Single Female 1 1900 - Sheffield, Yorkshire Image Transcription

First name(s) Richard
Last name Womes
Relationship Head
Marital condition Married
Gender Male
Age 42
Birth year 1859
Occupation Railway Drayman
Birth town Tilshead
Birth county Wiltshire
House number 37
House name -
Street Lansdowne Road
Parish Ecclesall Bierlow

British Army Service Records 1760-1915 Transcription
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First name(s) RICHARD
Last name WORNES
Birth year 1860
Birth parish BATH
Birth town BATH
Birth county SOMERSET
Birth country ENGLAND
Service number 1974
Rank -
Regiment -
Document Type Attestation
Attestation year 1878
Attestation day 6
Attestation month 11
Attestation age years 18
Attestation age months -
Attestation Corps 38TH BRIGADE
Attestation service number 1974
Series chelsea pensioners british army service records 1760-1913
Box 4214
Box record number 47

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Richard Wornes
United Kingdom, Chelsea Pensioners' Service Records, 1760-1913

Name: Richard Wornes
Event Type: Pension
Event Year Range: 1760-1913
Event Place: United Kingdom
Birthplace: Somerset
Birth Year (Estimated): 1860

Marriages Jun 1895 (>99%)

Charelsworth Mary Ann Ecclesall B. 9c 542
Wornes Richard Ecclesall B. 9c 542

His widow didn't waste much time!

Deaths Mar 1908 (>99%)
WORNES Richard 47 Ecclesall B. 9c 292

Deaths Sep 1907 (>99%)
TURNER Rose 27 Sheffield 9c 280