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Jo, there has already been information found for you about McGrath on your other thread:
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1341013?page=2

It isn't a good idea to ask again or else work is duplicated and it all gets messy!

If I do find anything I'll post it on that other thread to keep all of the McGrath information together.

Hi there, just wandering if you could help me find Leonard James Francis McGrath, which I believe to be my real grandfather. He married a gwenneth laws and had two children to that marriage. Thank you jo

Hi cherilyn yes I'm a 100% positive it was bylos

Jo I have replied to your post on my thread here http://www.genesreunited.com.au/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1198324?page=53

also if Lenny died only a few years ago he won't be in BDMS, but you might find a death notice online. Do you know what surname he died under?

1851

Name: John Oakley
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Isaac Oakley
Mother's name: Mary Oakley
Gender: Male
Where born: Byfleet, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Byfleet
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Chertsey
Sub-registration district: Walton
ED, institution, or vessel: 2a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 10
Piece: 1593
Folio: 356
Page Number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
Isaac Oakley 51 Broom Maker emp. 4 men, b. Walton on Hill
Mary Oakley 49 b. Staffordshire
John Oakley 21
Edward Oakley 19


1841

Name: Isaac Oakley
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Gender: Male
Where born: Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Byfleet
Hundred: Godley (First Division)
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Chertsey
Sub-registration district: Chertsey
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1074
Book: 3
Folio: 5
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age

Isaac Oakley 40 Broom Maker
Mary Oakley 40
Richard Oakley 65
John Oakley 12
Edward Oakley 9



Name: John Oakley
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 14 Sep 1828
Father's Name: Isaac Oakley
Mother's name: Mary Oakley
Parish or Poor Law Union: Byfleet
County: Surrey
Register Type: Parish Registers


Name: Mary Ann Oakley
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 11 Apr 1819
Father's Name: Isaac Oakley
Mother's name: Mary Oakley
Parish or Poor Law Union: Byfleet
County: Surrey
Register Type: Bishop's Transcript



Name: Richard Oakley
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 19 Sep 1824
Father's Name: Isaac Oakley
Mother's name: Mary Oakley
Parish or Poor Law Union: Byfleet
County: Surrey
Register Type: Parish Registers


Name: Edward Oakley
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 17 Jul 1831
Father's Name: Isaac Oakley
Mother's name: Mary Oakley
Parish or Poor Law Union: Byfleet
County: Surrey
Register Type: Bishop's Transcript

Just to clarify Jo.

It would seem that (assuming we have the correct man) Walter Lewis had only one known sibling, Henry John. Their Mum Eliza appears as a widow on the 1861 and subsequent census. Henry John appears on census up to the 1911.

I posted the marriage to identify Walter's father's name and occupation. That record also shows his grandfather as Isaac.

I have looked for Eliza, without success prior to her marriage. I have tried looking for her as a Jaraway and as Mott. I also tried to identify on the census the Eliza Mott who was a witness but again nothing conclusive.

Hope this clarifies things for you.

Kindest Regards
Mrs. Rootie

Thank you that would be great :-D

Jo, it would be much easier for us if you added that last request to your other thread on James Bylos or else things will get very mixed up!

If it's OK with you, I'll copy it over.

Ok I will do that. Now with Ursula's daughter Eilleen she was married in 1944. She had children but im not clear who they are from there was demetrios hlentzos (james bylos) her violent husband,and there was her lover. Her two children Lenny bylos and Jennifer bylos (my mum) she has just found out (about a half hour ago) that she was Inlove with another man he was an admiral in the navy his last name is McGrath that is the same man that is on Lennys birth certificate.
I believe Lenny died in Victoria a few years ago but I can't find him on births deaths and marriages Victoria Or nsw

OAKLEY WALTER L. Church of England 30/09/1952 (age) 60 C of E - Section S 3137

http://fieldofmarscemetery.com.au/Deceased-Search.php


(not sure if you have checked 'Search All Member Trees' (top right of page, under 'Search') could be shared)

Chris :)


http://ryersonindex.net/search.php

(another, can be useful)

Jo

Eliza Janaway and John Oakley are possible parents for Walter Oakley, John is a possible sibling

Isaac is a possible grandfather for Walter

You really need to get the death certificate for Walter, details posted earlier in this thread

Also rootgatherer are they his brothers and sisters?

I'm not sure I understand who is Henry and isacc and John Oakley and Eliza janaway or Mott are the my great great grandparents?

I think Alice Olivia Burt was a red herring as we seem to have concluded that Ursula did not marry Frank Burt

Name: Henry John Oakley
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 26 Feb 1854
Baptism Place: Byfleet, Surrey, England
Father: John Oakley
Mother: Eliza Janaway Oakley
FHL Film Number: 1278911
Reference ID: item 16 p 98



Name: Eliza Janaway
[Eliza Mott]
Age: 25
Birth Year: abt 1828
Marriage Date: 22 Jan 1853
Archive Provided Parish: Hersham, St Peter
Parish as it Appears: Walton On Thames
Spouse:
John Oakley Broom Maker
Spouse Age: 24
Father: Thomas Mott. labourer
Spouse Father: Isaac Oakley Broom Maker
Reference Number: 2843/1/7

Witnesses James Higgins and Eliza Mott

These appear on the ER together



Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950

Name:Richard U Burt

Spouse Name:Alice O Hort

Marriage Date:1919

Marriage Place:New South Wales

Registration Place:Sydney, New South Wales

Registration Year:1919

Registration Number:11166

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Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922


Name:Alice O Hort

Birth Date:1900

Father's Name:
Frank Hort

Mother's name:
Mary A

Birth Place:New South Wales

Registration Year:1900

Registration Place:Hay, New South Wales

Registration Number:3849

Alice Olivia Burt....where did you get her name from please?

1871

Name: Walter L Oakley
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Byfleet, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Byfleet
Town: Byfleet
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Registration district: Chertsey
Sub-registration district: Chertsey
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Household schedule number: 73
Piece: 805
Folio: 90
Page Number: 15
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizebeth Francis 61
Jane Ellen Francis 32
Beta Francis 28
Augustus L Francis 23
Jane E Cholmondsley 41
Rachel F G Johnson 32
Charles A Fyffe 25
Eliza Oakley 41 <<<<<< Housekeeper
Walter L Oakley 14 <<<<<<Page boy
Fanny Ealing 13

I think you have to give credit to Rootgatherer for the UK info!

Here is a link so you can buy the death certificate for Walter, if you want it


http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/bdm_fh.html

Tuesday 30 September 1952

OAKLEY.-The Relatives and Friends
of the late Mr. WALTER LOUIS OAKLEY, of 15 Commercial Road, Leichhardt, are Invited to attend his Funeral; to leave A. O'Hare's Chapel, 13 Norton Street. Leich- hardt. This (Tuesday) Aiternoon, after service commencing at 1 o'clock, for the Church of England Cemetery, Field ol Mars.
A. O'HARE,
13 Norton Street. Leichhardt.
' LM1993.



New South Wales, Australia, Index to Deceased Estate Files, 1923-1958


Name:Walter Oakley

Death Date:29 Sep 1952

Residence Place:Leichhardt

Occupation:Labourer

Civil Place:New South Wales, Australia


With no family mentioned in the above notice, it might suggest that he separated from Ursula