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Sorry you feel your time has been wasted Reggie and the time of others but if you refer to my opening thread I was actually enquring if anyone had access to find my past with a view to being able to look at the records for Swinton Industrial school in an effort to find information as to why George was there alone as I understood the records were on find my past. At no point did I ask anyone to look any further than that although I am grateful for their efforts. This thread was connected to previous research but not a 'family search' as such. It was purely and simply to try and find what information would have been contained on the Swinton records. I had not up until that point discovered the father Thomas' death so that for me was a bonus.

Thank you Chris !!

Margaret - for all your 'wow's and 'gasps of surprise' on this thread it would seem that you had every bit of this information found for you at the beginning of March yet we have all spent the day re-searching for it !

You really must not start new threads on the same people it is very unfair to those who spend their time and effort thinking they are being of help.

You will find that people will be very reluctant to waste their time trying to help you with your queries in the future.

Dea

P.S. - A 'Thank you' to Kath for the info on how to find the register on FMP.

Dea x

Well, that wasted a lot of my time!!!!!!!

And that of other people........................

Derby Daily Telegraph 07 December 1949
Deaths

Brindley - On Dec. 6th, 1949, at 142, Cowsley Road, Clara, the dearly loved wife of George Henry Brindley, aged 69 years. Funeral Friday, service St. Werburgh's Church at 12 noon, prior to Interment at Nottingham Road Cemetery.

Chris :)

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1338055

(think your other 'Thread' relates also)

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

First Name MILLY
Last Name BRINDLEY
Relationship DAUGHTER
Condition -
Gender Female
Age 12
Year Of Birth 1879
Occupation SCHOLAR
Birth Town -
Birth County -
Birth Place -
House Name -
Street BLOOM STREET
Town DERBY
Parish ST PETER
City DERBY
County Derbyshire
Registration District DERBY
Vessel Name -
Archive Reference RG12
Piece Number 2728
Folio 49
Page 24

Household Members
First Name Last Name Relationship Age Year Of Birth
JOHN DICKINSON HEAD 39 1852 Image Transcription
MARY DICKINSON WIFE 41 1850 Image Transcription
WILLIAM BRINDLEY SON 19 1872 Image Transcription
MILLY BRINDLEY DAUGHTER 12 1879 Image Transcription
SAMUEL DICKINSON SON 8 1883 Image Transcription
JOHN DICKINSON SON 9 1882 Image Transcription
CHARLES DICKINSON SON 5 1886 Image Transcription
MARY DICKINSON DAUGHTER 4 1887 Image Transcription
MATILDA DICKINSON DAUGHTER 0 1891

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

First Name MILLICENT
Last Name MORRIS
Relationship WIFE
Condition MARRIED
Gender Female
Age 22
Year Of Birth 1879
Occupation -
Birth Town MANCHESTER
Birth County LANCASHIRE
Birth Place -
Street TALBOT STREET
Town -
Parish DERBY
City -
Country ENGLAND
County Derbyshire
Vessel Name -
Municipal Ward ROWDITCH
Registration District DERBY
Archive Reference RG13
Piece Number 3214
Folio 149
Page 36

Household Members
First Name Last Name Relationship Age Year Of Birth
ALBERT MORRIS HEAD 31 1870 Image Transcription
MILLICENT MORRIS WIFE 22 1879 Image Transcription
MILLICENT MORRIS DAUGHTER 3 1898 Image Transcription
WILLIAM H MORRIS SON 0 1901 Image Transcription

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1878
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference

BRINDLEY Millicent Saint George Manchester STG/153/61

Dea - looks as if you could be right with your 1871 and 1881 census. At first I was doubtful as there was no Elizabeth but I have now found a death for an Elizabeth Brindley reg Sept 1877 - a month after the baptisms. However the baptisms show Rosanna being born 1873 which would have made her 8 on 1881 census, not 6 as stated. And M? on census born 1879 - I suppose mother could have been pregnant with her when Thomas died in 1878. Well I never dreamed that this would even get sorted out. My thanks to everyone who has done their level best to help. Much appreciated.

Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1878
Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference
BRINDLEY Thomas 30 Market Street Manchester MST/120/204

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1869
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
BRINDLEY John Thomas Hulme Manchester HUL/146/55

I can't find a baptism for John but there is this birth (the middle name for this one is Thomas which could be significant):-

First Name JOHN THOMAS
Last Name BRINDLEY
Mother's Maiden Name -
Year 1869
Event Quarter 2
Month of Registration -
Country England
County Lancashire
District CHORLTON
Volume 8C
Page 660
Line Number 283

Kath. x

Can we find a baptism for John - it might prove a change of employment for his father?

Dea x

This looks like the same family in 1871 and her husband WAS Thomas but the occupation is wrong: (India Rubber Elastic Webb weaver)


1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
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First Name MARY
Last Name BRINDLEY
Relationship WIFE
Condition -
Gender Female
Age 20
Occupation -
Year Of Birth 1851
Birth Town -
Birth Place -
Birth County LANCASHIRE
House Number -
House Name -
Street DURHAM PLACE
Parish CHORLTON UPON MEDLOCK
Town -
City MANCHESTER
County Lancashire
Country ENGLAND
Registration District CHORLTON
Archive Reference RG10
Piece Number 3992
Folio 34
Page 17
Record set 1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Category Census, land & surveys
Record collection Census

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Household Members
First Name Last Name Relationship Age Year Of Birth
THOS BRINDLEY HEAD 24 1847
Image Transcription
MARY BRINDLEY WIFE 20 1851
Image Transcription
JOHN BRINDLEY SON 2 1869
Image Transcription


He could have changed jobs though?

Dea x

I had just found the same Mary Brindley in 1881, Dea.

There is also this death which could be Thomas:-

Age 30
Country England
County Lancashire
Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
Birth Day -
District MANCHESTER
Event Quarter 4
Year 1878
First Name THOMAS
Gender Male
Last Name BRINDLEY
Birth Month -
Year Of Birth 1848
District Number -
DOR -
Entry Number -
Line Number 35
Page 212
Volume 8D

Kath. x

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
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First Name MARY
Last Name BRINDLEY
Relationship HEAD
Condition WIDOW
Gender Female
Age 29
Year Of Birth 1852
Occupation SLIPPER BINDER
Birth Town MANCHESTER
Birth County LANCASHIRE
Birth Place -
House Number 8
House Name -
Street JONES ST
Town -
Parish MANCHESTER
County Lancashire
Country ENGLAND
Registration District MANCHESTER
Archive Reference RG11
Piece Number 4006
Folio 53
Page 45
Record set 1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Household Members
First Name Last Name Relationship Age Year Of Birth Birth Town
MARY BRINDLEY HEAD 29 1852 MANCHESTER
Image Transcription
J S BRINDLEY SON 13 1868 MANCHESTER
Image Transcription
R H BRINDLEY DAUGHTER 6 1875 MANCHESTER
Image Transcription................. >>>Rosanna ???
M BRINDLEY DAUGHTER 2 1879 MANCHESTER

Dea x

Hi Dea

Sorry for the delay in answering your query regarding where the Industrial School records are on Findmypast.

If you click on "search all records" then look down the left of the screen under "Special Collections" then click on "The Manchester Collection" and then on the left under "Records in this Collection" you can pick off "Manchester Industrial School Registers 1866 - 1912". Then type in Swinton Industrial School in the "school" section of the search page.

They certainly don't make it easy to find things any more.

Kath. x

Yes Reggie that is the family. Wow I have just discovered this on Ancestry Parish Records

Manchester Cathedral & Parish Church Baptisms - 19th August 1877

Rosanna born 29 Dec 1873 parents Thomas Brindley, boilermaker and Mary Ann
George Henry born 17 Dec 1875 parents Thomas Brindley, boilermaker & Mary Ann
Elizabeth born 4th August 1877 parents Thomas Brindley, boilermaker & Mary Ann

I think now I will check on deaths for the above - except George - to see if he was in fact left an orphan although what would have wiped out a whole family I do not know. I have already tried to find Rosanna on 1881 census but failed.

is George'Henry' we are looking at then that baptism is one of 3 on the same day - parents Thomas + Mary Ann.

The others are:

Rosanna b 29th Dec '73
Elizabeth b 4th July, 77.

We need to look for those other children in the 1881.

Also - Thomas was a Boiler Maker.

Dea x

For parental info, the most reliable source is his birth cert

Births Mar 1876 (>99%)
Brindley George Henry Chorlton 8c 897

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

First Name CLARA
Last Name BRINDLEY
Relationship WIFE
Condition MARRIED
Gender Female
Age 36
Year Of Birth 1875
Occupation -
Address 43 TALBOT STREET DERBY
Parish DERBY
County Derbyshire
Country ENGLAND
Where Born DERBY DERBYSHIRE
Year Of Marriage -
Years Of Marriage -
Archive Reference RG14
Piece Number 20878
Census Reference RG14PN20878 RG78PN1247A RD435 SD2 ED7 SN137
Registration District DERBY
Registration District Number 435
Sub District DERBY
Enumeration District 7
SubDistrict Number 2


Household Members
First Name Last Name Relationship Age Year Of Birth Where Born
GEORGE HENRY BRINDLEY HEAD 35 1876 MANCHESTER LANCASHIRE Image Transcription
CLARA BRINDLEY WIFE 36 1875 DERBY DERBYSHIRE Image Transcription
GEORGE HENRY BRINDLEY JUNR SON 10 1901 DERBY DERBYSHIRE Image Transcription
JOSEPH BRINDLEY SON 5 1906 DERBY DERBYSHIRE Image Transcription
ROSE MAY BRINDLEY DAUGHTER 3 1908 DERBY DERBYSHIRE Image Transcription
CLARA MATILDA BRINDLEY DAUGHTER 0 1911 DERBY DERBYSHIRE Image Transcription
FRANCIS PRESTBURY BROTHER IN LAW 24 1887 DERBY DERBYSHIRE Image Transcription
FREDERICK LLOYD COUSIN 32 1879 DERBY DERBYSHIRE Image Transcription