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6 May 2014 13:26 |
Hi All,
I've dubbed this one the black widow. She was christened in Dalton in Furness, Lancashire on 4/3/1860, the daughter of Thomas Turner.
In 1878 she married Josiah Eva, who was born 1856 in Wendron, Cornwall, a miner. They had children Josiah (1878, but no death found), as found on 1881 census when she was staying with the in-laws in Dalton, but husband not present. She went on to have Emma Jane (1882) born in Dalton, and Ella (c1889 Mexico).
I've not found a death for the husband, but she went on to marry Joseph Cook 25/12/1890 and they appeared on 1891 census. No sign of youngest son Josiah, just the 2 daughters. They went on to have son Dixon Cook in 1891.
Strike down husband #2, but not found his death. By 1901 she is on the census married to Isaac Mawson (Born Eskdale, Cumberland 1868 - I have all his history), they married in 1897 again at Dalton. She has Emma, Ella, Dixon Cook and another child Isaac Mawson (born 1897 Dalton).
By 1911 she is still around at 2 Devonshire St Dalton, with sons Isaac Mawson & Dixon Cook, stating married but I can't find husband Isaac on the 1911 census.
Have tried shipping lists for the family Eva, no luck. Deaths for any of her 3 husbands or youngest child - again no luck. So what did she do with them???
As ever, any help greatly appreciated :-D
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6 May 2014 13:35 |
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New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about Josiah Eva Name: Josiah Eva Arrival Date: 11 Jul 1879 Birth Date: abt 1856 Age: 23 Gender: Male Ethnicity/ Nationality: English Place of Origin: England Port of Departure: Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland Destination: United States of America Port of Arrival: New York, New York Ship Name: Chester Search Ship Database: Search the Chester in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
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6 May 2014 13:44 |
Hi Maddie, thanks for that - can you make out the occupation please? I know he was a miner from previous census and occupation given on their marriage.
Forgot to mention, Jane's mother was Ellen Allen the parents married in Kendal but her name was recorded as Allan on the marriage. Jane had 6 older siblings, so I have most of her history - it's what she did with the hubbies I'm interested in ;-)
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6 May 2014 13:45 |
had a look but can't make it out sorry
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6 May 2014 14:03 |
Can't find him on the 1880 census in USA. This one's close but he's a James instead of Josiah:
1880 United States Federal Census about James Eva Name: James Eva Age: 24 Birth Year: abt 1856 Birthplace: England Home in 1880: Adams, Houghton, Michigan Race: White Gender: Male Marital Status: Married Father's Birthplace: England Mother's Birthplace: England Neighbors: View others on page Occupation: Miner Cannot read/write:
Household Members: Name Age James Eva 24
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6 May 2014 14:04 |
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John Eva, "Utah, Deaths and Burials, 1888-1946" Name: John Eva Gender: Male Burial Date: 22 Apr 1921 Burial Place: Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Ut. Death Date: 15 Apr 1921 Death Place: Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Ut. Age: 66 Birth Date: 1855 Birthplace: Cornell, England Occupation: Miner, Copper Mines Race: White Marital Status: Single Spouse's Name: Father's Name: Father's Birthplace: Mother's Name: Mother's Birthplace: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: B54939-3 System Origin: Utah-EASy GS Film number: 26560
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6 May 2014 14:34 |
Flip
I think the occupation on that shipping record is 'Farmer'
Have you considered this for the death of the youngest son?
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915
Name:Josiah Eva
Estimated birth year:abt 1879
Date of Registration:Jan-Feb-Mar 1883
Age at Death:4
Registration district:Redruth
Inferred County:Cornwall
Volume:5c
Page:164
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6 May 2014 15:50 |
I can't even find Ella 1889 or any of the others on shipping records,they must have come back shortly after her birth if Jane marries Joseph cook in 1890!!
Maryb.
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6 May 2014 17:01 |
Thanks all. I think the shipping record is not him, but Gins death could be the first son - there wasn't another Josiah birth registered in the right time frame. So maybe she went down to Cornwall for a time - and the Eva's originated from Redruth. Though I can't place the rest of the family there after they migrated to Furness.
Although I'm 100% on this, father Samuel Eva died in 1890 in Dalton, and mother Jane (widow) was with daughter Eliza Ann (Sleep) in 1891, dieing in 1894 again in Dalton.
No Mary, I can't find them either - rather odd, as they must have returned between 1887-90 (allowing for an error in daughters age).
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6 May 2014 20:10 |
Do you know if Josiah is down as being deceased on this? I know it doesn't always help.
England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973 about Emma Jane Eva Name: Emma Jane Eva Gender: Female Age: 23 Birth Date: 1882 Marriage Date: 10 Jun 1905 Marriage Place: St. Luke'S Church, Cheetham, Lancashire, England Father: Josiah Eva Spouse: Joseph Edward Robinson FHL Film Number: 2113012 Reference ID: p107 no214
or this one?
England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915 about Ella Eva Name: Ella Eva Spouse Surname: Jones Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1912 Registration district: Ulverston Inferred County: Lancashire Volume Number: 8e Page Number: 1129 Records on Page: Name Ella Eva Johannah Evans Thomas Jackson William E G Jones
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6 May 2014 21:02 |
A different version of the 1905 marriage says Josiah is an engineer. Doesn't say deceased but depends if question was asked or not:
Manchester, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1930
Name: Emma Jane Eva Birth Year: abt 1882 Age: 23 Marriage Date: 10 Jun 1905 Parish: Cheetham, St Luke Parish as it Appears: Cheetham, St Luke Father's Name: Josiah Eva
Spouse's Name: Joseph Edward Robinson (33) - book keeper Spouse's Father's Name: George Robinson - manager at boot maufactory
Neither previously married, both give address as 5 Bradburn Street, Cheetham.
Witnesses: George Robinson and Gertrude Alwynne Robinson
Reference Number: GB127.M339/1/2/2
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MarieCeleste
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6 May 2014 21:15 |
Sounds a bit of an odd one, that Josiah Eva.
Found while looking for any clues in the newspapers
26 August 1871 - Royal Cornwall Gazette
"Josiah Eva, a lad 15 years of age, living at Four Lanes, Wendron, who walked naked along the highway amongst the congregation coming from church"
Do you want the full article?
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MarieCeleste
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6 May 2014 21:31 |
This Isaac is a miner and last lived in Dalton
New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Isaac Mauson Arrival Date: 22 May 1904 Birth Date: abt 1869 Age: 35 Gender: Male Ethnicity/ Nationality: English Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Port of Arrival: New York, New York Ship Name: Etruria
He was headed to the Bingham mine, Utah.
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MarieCeleste
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6 May 2014 21:39 |
I think these may relate to the same man, but there's some variance on dates:
Utah Cemetery Inventory Name: Isaac Mawson Birth Date: 1870 Death Date: 1 Jun 1921 Death Place: Salt Lake County Burial Date: 1 June 1921 Cemetery: Salt Lake City Cemetery Source: Sexton Records Grave Location: V-4-10-1-E
Salt Lake City, Utah, Cemetery Records, 1848-1992 Name: Isaac Mawson Birth Date: Death Date: abt 1921 Death Place: Salt Lake County Plot: 41187 X-4-10-E-1 Burial Date: 1 Jun 1921
Utah Death Registers, 1847-1966 Name: Isaac Mawson Gender: Male Age: 51 Birth Date: abt 1870 Death Date: 26 Apr 1921 Death County: Salt Lake State File Number: 1921001834
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MarieCeleste
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6 May 2014 21:47 |
Have found the death certificate for Isaac Mawson on FamilySearch.
Whoever registered his death didn't know a lot about him.
Born England, been in Salt Lake 19 years. Parents name unknown. Married, but wife's first name unknown. Date of birth not known (appears age guessed).
Died of pulmonary TB 26/04/1921, buried 01/06/1921
Age given as 51. Address 62½ Richards Street
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6 May 2014 21:53 |
Could be that Josiah Eva died in Mexico. He's not on British Nationals died overseas but if they were mining and not near a consulate then it might not have been properly registered.
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6 May 2014 22:12 |
Re: the John Eva death that safc posted above, again the info on the actual certificate is vague - nothing known about him other than born in England and was single. He also died of TB. Had been in Utah 40 years. Worked in copper mines.
This checks out with a John Eva who is divorced on the 1920 census.
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7 May 2014 05:48 |
Wow, thanks for all this - have been doing a bit of digging around re John Eva - found him on 1900/1910 census with wife Nellie (Franks), and her daughter. He claims to have arrived in US somewhere between 1879-81 depending on which census you look at.
I'm assuming the divorced status refers to his divorce from Nellie. Weird thing though on the 1904 city directory they are living at 62.5 Richards street, same address as given on Isaac Mawson's death cert. There must be some connection between them.
Sorry Alvigal, I don't have Ella's marriage cert to check what she put down for her father though. MC, does the death for John give his address, or father's name please?
That must be Isaac heading out in 1904 - too much of a coincidence not to be him :-D
Thanks all, it's given me something to dig into!
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7 May 2014 07:13 |
Didn't realise you could view the death certs on familysearch - cheers for that tip Marie - just had a look at them both, and like you say no more clues there.
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Chris Ho :)
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7 May 2014 07:18 |
Burial Day Month 17-Mar Year 1883 Parish Or Reg District Gwennap Forename Josiah Surname EVA Age 4 Residence Lannarth Notes old ground
http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/
(Utah Eva on below, with info.)
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi
Chris :)
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Baptism (if him) County Cornwall Place Wendron Church St Wendron RegisterNumber 1641 DateOfBirth BaptismDate 06 Aug 1858 Forename Joseph Sex M FatherForename Samuel MotherForename Jane FatherSurname EVA MotherSurname Abode Grigwartha FatherOccupation Miner
http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl
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