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3 May 2014 11:15 |
Hi I am trying to see if there's a connection between the following Searson people as I cannot find them on any census. William Searson was born 30/01/1876, Charlotte Searson born 28/09/1866 and Bernard Searson born 05/04/197. I think Bernard was born in the Codnor Derbyshire area. Any help appreciated.
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Kucinta
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3 May 2014 11:25 |
William in 1881?
Age: 5 Estimated birth year: abt 1876 Relationship to Head: Son Father: Thorpe H. Searson Mother: Mary A. Searson Gender: Male Where born: Codnor, Derbyshire, England Civil Parish: Codnor and Loscoe County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street address: High St Education:
Employment status:
View image Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Basford Sub-registration district: Greasley ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3320 Folio: 78 Page Number: 28 Household Members: Name Age
Thorpe H. Searson 31 Mary A. Searson 30 Frank S. Searson 7 William H. Searson 5 Samuel E. Searson 3
Parents' marriage?
Name: Thorpe Hezekiah Searson Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1872 Registration district: Belper Inferred County: Derbyshire Volume Number: 7b Page Number: 1091 Records on Page: Name Alice Robinson Thorpe Hezekiah Searson<<<<<<<<<<< Mary Ann Spencer<<<<<<<<<<<< Henry Wyld
Father Thorpe a single man in 1871:
Name: Thorpe H Searson Age: 21 Estimated birth year: abt 1850 Relation: Son Mother's name: Thomasen Searson Gender: Male Where born: Codnor, Derbyshire, England Civil Parish: Codnor and Loscoe Ecclesiastical parish: Codnor Town: Codnor County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Registration district: Basford Sub-registration district: Greasley ED, institution, or vessel: 3b Household schedule number: 310 Piece: 3476 Folio: 86 Page Number: 60 Household Members: Name Age Thomasen Searson 59 widow housekeeper Thorpe H Searson 21<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Coal miner & Photographer Edward Searson 16
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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3 May 2014 11:33 |
Presume you mistyped Bernard's birth year and it was 1907?
If so this looks like his birth
Births Jun 1907 Searson Bernard Basford 7b 190
His death
Age - Country England County Derbyshire Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Birth Day 5 District BELPER Event Quarter 3 Year 1978 First Name BERNARD Gender Male Last Name SEARSON Birth Month 4 Year Of Birth 1907 District Number - DOR - Entry Number - Line Number 113 Page 0100 Volume 6
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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3 May 2014 11:43 |
Not seeing Bernard on the 1911 census
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3 May 2014 12:00 |
Thank you Kucinta and Shirley~I'm getting the hang of it for your help I do appreciate it.. Still struggling with Charlotte though and can't understand why Bernard is not on 1911 census. Confused.com :)
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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3 May 2014 12:14 |
she may not have married Age 81 Country England County Derbyshire Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Birth Day - District ILKESTON Event Quarter 3 Year 1948 First Name CHARLOTTE Gender Female Last Name SEARSON Birth Month - Year Of Birth 1867 District Number - DOR - Entry Number - Line Number 143 Page 283 Volume 3A Category
not seeing her on any census either
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3 May 2014 12:49 |
A tree on Ancestry claims that Bernard's mother was Ellen Bemrose.
I can't check any further details because even though it's a public tree...it wont open up.
There is a Bemrose/Searson marriage but her name is Nellie Bemrose...
Marriages Mar 1909 (>99%) BEMROSE Nellie Basford 7b 312 SEARSON William Basford 7b 312
A Searson/Bemsose birth in 1912
Births Sep 1912 (>99%) SEARSON George B Bemrose Basford 7b 364
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Chris Ho :)
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3 May 2014 13:06 |
Derby Mercury 27 November 1872
Searson - Spencer - Nov.18, at Ebenezer Chapel, Ripley, by the Rev. S. Davies, Mr. Thorpe Hezekiah Searson to Mary Ann, daughter of Mr. E. Spencer, both of Codnor.
(if relating)
Chris :)
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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3 May 2014 13:22 |
there is a Nellie on the 1911
1911 England Census about Nelle Searson Name: Nelle Searson Age in 1911: 22 Estimated birth year: abt 1889 Relation to Head: Son's Wife (Daughter-in-law) Gender: Female Birth Place: Codnor, Derbyshire, England Civil Parish: Codnor and Loscoe County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street address: Lord Byron Codnor Marital Status: Married Registration district: Basford Registration District Number: 429 Sub-registration district: Greasley ED, institution, or vessel: 35 Piece: 20390 Household Members: Name Age James Searson 50 Mary Ann Searson 42 Job Harold Searson 21 Nelle Searson 22 Rebecca Caley 66 Caley Gillott 11 V Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 20390.
no husband with her and the census page says married under 1 year and no children born
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3 May 2014 15:50 |
Am wondering if Nellie was married to Job Harold as they both have married under 1 year. If so was her name Ellen Watson as her name was on the same page as Job's marriage. The plot thickens lol :)
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Kucinta
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3 May 2014 18:49 |
Nellie is a diminutive form of the name Ellen, and Eleanor amongst others. My great grandmother was born an Ellen, but known most of her life as Nellie.
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ErikaH
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3 May 2014 22:38 |
My mother's given name was Ellen....................she was known to her nephews as Aunt Nellie
How much research have you done?
1871 and 1881 censuses are free on familysearch
Where did you get the exact DOBs?
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ErikaH
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3 May 2014 22:55 |
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1911......married two years
First Name WILLIAM Last Name SEARSON JUN R Relationship HEAD Condition MARRIED Gender Male Year Of Birth 1877 Age 34 Occupation CAB DRIVER Address BROAD LANE NEW BRINSLEY NOTTINGHAMSHIRE Parish BRINSLEY County Nottinghamshire Country ENGLAND Where Born NEW BRINSLEY NOTTS Year Of Marriage - Years Of Marriage - Archive Reference RG14 Piece Number 20357 Census Reference RG14PN20357 RG78PN1221 RD429 SD1 ED2 SN253 Registration District BASFORD Registration District Number 429 Sub District GREASLEY Enumeration District 2 SubDistrict Number 1
WILLIAM SEARSON JUN R HEAD 1877 34 NEW BRINSLEY NOTTS Image Transcription ELLEN SEARSON JUN R WIFE 1891 20 RADCLIFFE ON TRENT NOTTS Image Transcription WILLIAM GREVILLE SEARSON JUN R SON 1910 1 WESTON ON TRENT DERBYSHIRE
No 'Bernard'
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ErikaH
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3 May 2014 23:00 |
Not sure why someone said there was no husband with Ellen in 1911.......................
Marriages Mar 1911 (>99%) Bell Fred Basford 7b 290 Mann Edith Basford 7b 290 SEARSON Job H Basford 7b 290 Watson Ellen Basford 7b 290
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4 May 2014 12:45 |
Got the birth dates from a book that was passed down the family but have no idea who they are and cannot find a connection to Bernard. I now know Bernard's father was William and am trying to find him either on 1911 census or a marriage. Got a couple of possibilities to try and check out, Many thanks for all your help it is greatly appreciated.
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Kucinta
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4 May 2014 16:14 |
If Bernard was born 1907, then he would have been born before both the Job Searson - Ellen Mann marriage and the William Searson -Nellie Bemrose marriage.
Just wondered if he might be under another surname in the 1911 census, or, was his father married previously?
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4 May 2014 17:55 |
Am trying to find William but I don't think he was the William Searson that married Nellie Bemrose. Will update my post if I find anything.
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Kucinta
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4 May 2014 18:41 |
I think this is the William son of Thorpe:
Census 1911:
Name: Wm Hy Searson Age in 1911: 35 Estimated birth year: abt 1876 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Codnor, Derbyshire, England<<<<<<<<<< Civil Parish: Codnor and Loscoe County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street address: Crosshill Codnor Derbyshire Marital Status: Married Occupation: Confidential Clerk Registration district: Basford Registration District Number: 429 Sub-registration district: Greasley ED, institution, or vessel: 36 Piece: 20391
Household Members: Name Age Wm Hy Searson 35 c1876 Codnor, Derbyshire, England Florence Searson 32 c1879 Codnor, Derbyshire, England Constance Mary Searson 4 c 1907 Codnor, Derbyshire, England
Married 7 yrs one child, child still living.
Possible marriage:
Name: Florence Leake<<<<<<<<<<<< Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1903 Registration district: Basford Inferred County: Nottinghamshire Volume Number: 7b Page Number: 368 Records on Page: Name Annie Fowkes John William B Holmes Florence Leake<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< William Henry Searson<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Birth of child from census 1911:
Name: Constance Mary Searson Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1906 Registration district: Basford Inferred County: Nottinghamshire Volume: 7b Page: 194
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2 Jun 2014 19:30 |
Hi I have now got Bernard's birth certificate that states that William was his father and Charlotte was his mother, however I cannot find a marriage for them. Charlotte was down as Charlotte Searson formerly Burton on the birth certificate. If anyone can help I would be very grateful.
Thanks in advance
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Kucinta
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2 Jun 2014 23:11 |
This one?
Marriages Jun 1906 Burton Charlotte Basford 7b 444 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Hallam Annie Basford 7b 444 Searson William Basford 7b 444 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Severn James William Basford 7b 444
from freebmd
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/
EDIT: James William Severn ( the other groom on the page) can be found on the 1911 census at 10 Barker Gate Ilkston, married to an Annie for 4 years, with two small daughters, so it would be reasonable to believe we have the right marriage here for Charlotte Burton and William Searson.
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