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Thanks, I have now sent off for Matildas birth cert

Hi everyone.
I have received the birth cert for Matilda born 9/3/1869 in Deptford.
Father Alfred Holland. Mother Matilda Holland formerly Firman
I think it is now very probable that Matilda put her Mothers maiden name on my Great Grandads Arthurs birth cert. On closer look there is a dot above what looked like an o, so I believe Arthurs cert has also Firman and not forman.
Still cannot find marrriage.
I am now looking very closely to Maureens post regarding Firman & Barrett

You probably already have this.................

Name: Louisa Alice Holland
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 9 Apr 1871
Father's Name: Alfred Holland ..............................a labourer
Mother's name: Matilda Holland
Parish or Poor Law Union: Greenwich St Paul
Borough: Greenwich
Register Type: Parish Registers

Family lived at 7 Elizabeth Place, North Pole Lane

Thanks Gwyn that is the birth cert that gave me Barrett as Mothers maiden name

Hi Chris,

Somehow I managed to miss your previous update. Sorry.

Makes you want to scream,doesn't it? How frustrating for you. It really does look as though she (the mother) is the Matilda born in Garboldisham.....but I'm obviously biased.;-)

Maureen

Hi Maureen
I am with you on this. She changed her mind on the censuses Norfolk on one Cambridge on the next.

I have just found a Gorleston in Suffolk, Norfolk
But Garboldisham is in Norfolk, Cambridgeshire

Garboldisham seems to tick both boxes

(looks a good result there!)

(first child below)

Baptism
County Norfolk
Place Garboldisham
Church St John the Baptist
RegisterNumber
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 19 Oct 1824
Forename Benjamin
FatherForename Henry
MotherForename Mary
FatherSurname FORMAN
MotherSurname
Abode Garboldisham
FatherOccupation Laborer


Marriage
County Norfolk
Place Garboldisham
Church St John the Baptist
RegisterNumber 36
MarriageDate 08 Mar 1846
GroomForename Benjamin
GroomSurname FURMAN
GroomAge 21
GroomParish
GroomCondition Single Man
GroomOccupation Labourer
GroomAbode Garboldisham
BrideForename Mary Ann
BrideSurname SMITH
BrideAge 21
BrideParish
BrideCondition Single Woman
BrideOccupation
BrideAbode Garboldisham
GroomFatherForename Henry
GroomFatherSurname FURMAN
GroomFatherOccupation Labourer
BrideFatherForename John
BrideFatherSurname SMITH
BrideFatherOccupation Labourer
WitnessOneForename Henry
WitnessOneSurname FURMAN
WitnessTwoForename Martha
WitnessTwoSurname FURMAN
Notes He signs X


Baptism
County Norfolk
Place Garboldisham
Church St. John the Baptist
RegisterNumber 287
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 29 Apr 1826
Forename Martha
Sex F
FatherForename Henry
MotherForename Mary
FatherSurname FIRMAN (entry also for Forman)
MotherSurname
Abode Garboldisham
FatherOccupation Labourer


http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

(from above)

Chris :)

Henry Firman, labourer, aged 36, born in Garboldisham, Norfolk, had worked in Garboldisham, married, now residing in Littleport
Date 5 April 1824

http://calm.cambridgeshire.gov.uk/calmview/

Thanks Chris

Firman, Foreman, Forman, Furman sp many different spellings

(noticed below!)

Chris :)

Baptism
County Norfolk
Place Garboldisham
Church St John the Baptist
RegisterNumber
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 15 Feb 1789
Forename Henry
FatherForename Henry
MotherForename Mary
FatherSurname COOPER
MotherSurname FOREMAN
Abode
FatherOccupation
Notes HF son of Mary & Henry COOPER (spur: prol:)

http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl


spu·ri·ous
1. Lacking authenticity or validity in essence or origin; not genuine; false.
2. Of illegitimate birth.

Hi Chris Sorry just seen your new post - Thanks

Sorry folks, me again
I really think we are on the right track with Matilda from Garboldisham
BUT big BUT, did they make mistakes on marriage documents on the ages of couples who married. How can I find out for sure?
Was going to say would they have six children before tieing the knot?
These days I would have no problem with it but then....
Any ideas?
Chris x