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24 Apr 2014 12:43 |
Hi I'm looking for descendants of Nimrod Gardner b1827 Bugbrooke I have death certificate of his daughter Caroline 1893 in Birkenhead and census for him with his wife Mary (b1830 scotland) and children from 1861 to 1901 . Nimrod worked on the railways died in 1910 aged 83 in Greenfield st birkenhead would like to know where the elder children were after 1871 .what were their jobs . +if their offspring stayed in Birkenhead or returned to Northants.
children were; Sarah b1850 frodsham..suspect she died young children born in Helsby Charlotte b1852 nimrod 1853 married Mary in Liverpool 1870 sarah ann1856 C1971 domesticservant in Tranmere aged 15 john b1857 Caroline b1859 m John Roberts 1877 in b'Head had Mary1878 Charlotte.18
younger children born in Birkenhead George 1863 ,Mary 1866 m.thomas Hale1901 Richard 1869-1876 drowned .William b1871 m Eliza Reed 1891 jamy 1874,jane 1874 m joseph jones 1896 (son joseph gardner jones b1898 with his gfather nimrod in 1901) any help appreciated .for some news/court reports Nimrod sn +junior in 1860's see
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1339778
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24 Apr 2014 12:57 |
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Marriage: 25 Oct 1877 St Mary the Virgin, Bury, Lancashire, England Thomas Mawdsley - 29, Butcher, Bachelor, Bury Sarah Ann Gardiner - 22, Spinster, Bury Groom's Father: Richard Mawdsley, Commercial Traveller Bride's Father: Nimrod Gardiner, Labourer Witness: Joseph Barker; S. Bailey Married by Certificate by: W. R. Clayton Curate Register: Marriages 1874 - 1879, Page 88, Entry 176 Source: LDS Family Search
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24 Apr 2014 12:58 |
a Gardner relative told me Nimrod junior married mary b1853 in 1870 and had 4 children but can't find any of the birth registrations or the marriage cert
Jamesb1871,Albert 1874 ,Nimrod 1881d1884 death reg found +Richard 1885
On the 1891 census Nimrod is aged 36, a railway shunter wife Mary aged 35 Albert is aged 17 Richard is 6 at 39 greenfield st. Birkenhead can't find them in 1881
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24 Apr 2014 12:59 |
Marriage: 6 Jul 1896 St Mary, Great Sankey, Lancashire, England James Gardner - 23, Shunter, Bachelor, S. Peters Parish, Birkenhead Emily Thompson - 23, Spinster, Penketh Groom's Father: Nimrod Gardner, Signalman Bride's Father: John Thompson, Platelayer Witness: James Garner; Elizabeth Thompson Married by Banns by: J.R. Jones Register: Marriages 1886 - 1897, Page 116, Entry 232 Source: LDS Film 1952267
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24 Apr 2014 13:00 |
Posting for ref
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1339778
Opps...apologies, you already posted it!
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24 Apr 2014 13:01 |
Nimrod Gardner, "England and Wales Census, 1881" Name: Nimrod Gardner Age (Original): 53 Gender: Male Birth Year: 1828 Birthplace: Bugbrook, Northamptonshire, England Relationship to Head of Household: Head Marital Status: Married Occupation: Railway Signalman Address: 4 Willow St Event Place: Birkenhead, Cheshire, England Disability: Record Type: Household GS Film number: 1341856 Affiliate Publication Number: RG11 Piece/Folio: 3577 / 104 Page Number: 44 Household Gender Age Birthplace Head Nimrod Gardner M 53 Bugbrook, Northamptonshire, England Wife Mary Gardner F 50 Scotland Son George Gardner M 18 Birkenhead, Cheshire, England Son William Gardner M 9 Birkenhead, Cheshire, England Son James Gardner M 7 Birkenhead, Cheshire, England Daughter Jane Gardner F 6 Birkenhead, Cheshire, England
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24 Apr 2014 13:02 |
from a tree on ancestry
James Gardner Birth April 1873 in Birkenhead, Cheshire, England Death about March 1897 in Birkenhead, Cheshire, England
Birth 1873 Apr Birkenhead, Cheshire, England
Residence 1881 Age: 8 4 Willow St. Birkenhead, Cheshire, England Age: 7; Relation to Head of House: Son
Marriage to Emily Thompson 1896 6 Jul Age: 23 St. Mary's Church, Great Sankey, Warrington, Lancashire James Gardner,23,bachelor,Shunter,S. Peter Parish, Birkenhead. Father Nimrod Gardner,Signal Man.Emily Thompson,23,spinster,Penketh.Father John Thompson, Plate Layer.Banns, Witnesses John Thompson & Elizabeth Thompson
Death 1897 Mar Age: 23 Birkenhead, Cheshire, England age 23
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Fred James Gardner 1897 – 1963
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24 Apr 2014 13:05 |
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 about George Gardner
Name: George Gardner
Estimated birth year: abt 1863
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1906
Age at Death: 43
Registration district: Birkenhead
Inferred County: Cheshire
Volume: 8a
Page: 308
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24 Apr 2014 13:06 |
Jane maybe
England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915 about Jane Gardner Name: Jane Gardner Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1896 Registration district: Birkenhead Inferred County: Cheshire Volume Number: 8a Page Number: 731 Records on Page: Name Sadie Goodacre Downham Jane Gardner Hubert Edward Hughes Joseph Jones
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24 Apr 2014 13:06 |
A tree on Ancestry has a son James born 1873, Birkenhead, married Emily Thompson and had son Fred James Gardner (there are 2 photos of him)
Edit: Oops I've done it again, Maddie already posted that with more info!
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24 Apr 2014 13:11 |
Thomas Mawdsley, "England and Wales Census, 1881" Name: Thomas Mawdsley Age (Original): 34 Gender: Male Birth Year: 1847 Birthplace: Bury, Lancashire, England Relationship to Head of Household: Head Marital Status: Married Occupation: Beef Butcher Address: 1 Thorne St Event Place: Bury, Lancashire, England Disability: Record Type: Household GS Film number: 1341922 Affiliate Publication Number: RG11 Piece/Folio: 3860 / 4 Page Number: 2 Household Gender Age Birthplace Head Thomas Mawdsley M 34 Bury, Lancashire, England Wife Sarah A Mawdsley F 25 Birkenhead, Cheshire, England Son Richard Mawdsley M 2 Bury, Lancashire, England Daughter Jane Mawdsley F 0 Bury, Lancashire, England
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24 Apr 2014 13:14 |
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1901 England Census about Jane Jones Name: Jane Jones Age: 26 Estimated birth year: abt 1875 Relation to Head: Wife Gender: Female Spouse: Joseph Jones Birth Place: Birkenhead, Cheshire, England Civil Parish: Birkenhead Ecclesiastical parish: St John County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Birkenhead Sub-registration district: Birkenhead ED, institution, or vessel: 26 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3391 Folio: 152 Page Number: 33 Household schedule number: 189 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Jones 34 Jane Jones 26 Mary A Chessey 12
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24 Apr 2014 13:19 |
Thanks all just sorting thru and noting down to follow these new leads. It seems odd that Nimrod went from being a railway plate layer in 1861 back to labourer in 1877 sarah ann's marriage in 1881 he was a railway signalman
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24 Apr 2014 13:27 |
could this be William 1911
1911 England Census about William Gardner Name: William Gardner Age in 1911: 40 Estimated birth year: abt 1871 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Birkenhead, Cheshire, England Civil Parish: Birkenhead County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Street address: K 16 Queens Bldgs Marital Status: Married Occupation: Dock Labourer Registration district: Birkenhead Registration District Number: 452 Sub-registration district: Birkenhead ED, institution, or vessel: 43 Piece: 22000 Household Members: Name Age William Gardner 40 Eliza Gardner 40 Albert F Gardner 6 John Cox 35
married 16 years
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24 Apr 2014 13:28 |
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First Name WILLIAM Last Name GARDNER Country England Record set Diocese of Chester parish registers of marriages c1538-1910 Spouse First Name Eliza County Cheshire Spouse Last Name Reed Year 1894 First Names William Spouse Father's Name William Reed Year Of Birth 1871 Date Of Marriage 01 Oct 1894 Spouse Age 22y Parish St. Mary Year Of Marriage 1894 Place BIRKENHEAD City Or Town Birkenhead Reference item 5 p 83 Record Group Part 1 - 1 Age 23y Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Record collection Marriages & divorces Collections from Great Britain
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24 Apr 2014 13:29 |
First Name WILLIAM Last Name GARDNER Age At Death 63 Year 1935 Event Quarter 1 Year Of Birth 1872 District BIRKENHEAD County Cheshire Country England Volume 8A Page 641 Line Number 87 Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Record collection Deaths & burials Collections from Great Britain
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24 Apr 2014 13:32 |
poor little Fred James Gardner to lose his dad as a baby ; I hope Emily remarried .
It looks like Jane + Joseph Jones lived at home in 1901 so their 3 year old may just have been staying with his grandparents .
So that's some descendants to work on ...my mother will be pleased so many of them were still failrly local in 1901 when her mother was a baby In Birkenhead I'm trying to keep note of any street names that crop up + look them up on a 1909 street map i have
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24 Apr 2014 13:34 |
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1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Print this page View image First Name WILLIAM Last Name GARDNER Relationship HEAD Condition MARRIED Gender Male Age 30 Year Of Birth 1871 Occupation LABOURER IN TIMBER YARD Birth Town BHEAD Birth County CHESHIRE Birth Place - Street BROOK STREET Town - Parish BIRKENHEAD City - Country ENGLAND County Cheshire Vessel Name - Municipal Ward CLEVELAND Registration District BIRKENHEAD Archive Reference RG13 Piece Number 3390 Folio 189 Page 34
ELIZA GARDNER WIFE 29 1872 BHEAD Record set 1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Category Census, land & surveys Record collection Census Collections from Great Britain
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24 Apr 2014 14:02 |
Thanks again have messaged the member with James + Emily on her tree
SAFC I meant I couldn't find Nimrod Junior b 1855 in 1881 also married to a Mary maiden name unknown should be with his children Albert +James and maybe baby Nimrod
well done Maddie definitely the right William +Eliza
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24 Apr 2014 14:26 |
1881 England Census about Nimrod Gardener Name: Nimrod Gardener Age: 29 Estimated birth year: abt 1852 Relationship to Head: Head Spouse: Mary Gardener Gender: Male Where born: Helsby, Flintshire, Wales Civil Parish: Birkenhead County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Street address: 87 Dacre St Marital Status: Married Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Railway Shunter Registration district: Birkenhead Sub-registration district: Birkenhead ED, institution, or vessel: 9a Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3576 Folio: 22 Page Number: 38 Household Members: Name Age Nimrod Gardener 29 Mary Gardener 28 James Gardener 10 Albert Gardener 7 Nimrod Gardener .
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