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I have the marriage cert, her father was Patrick Haggart, a weaver.
Even more likely that 'your' Patrick could be her brother.

I guess you'll need the marriage certificate for her father' name

Can't see a record on Ancestry for the marriage, just the registration details

Catherine senior - Catherine Haggart - was born in around 1833 in Roscommon, married Hugh Gallagher in 1854 in Birmingham and lived all her life in Birmingham. She would be the sister of the Patrick you and Jan have been so clever as to find.

(1861 census re. Dea's post at 11.29 on 11th April above)

Here's Catherine



1930 United States Federal Census

Name:Cath Hagget

Gender:Female

Birth Year:abt 1877

Birthplace:New Jersey

Race:White

Home in 1930:Jersey City, Hudson, New Jersey

Marital Status:Single

Relation to Head of House:Head

Father's Birthplace:
Irish Free State

Mother's Birthplace:
Irish Free State

Parents' birthplace: Ireland

Household Members:


Cath Hagget 53




Edit: 'I may never find Catherine snr. in Roscommon'

When was the above born and what was her birth name please?

Brilliant.
I may never find Catherine snr. in Roscommon but at least I've got loads of new material to go on with her family.
Now I'm wondering if there are any more siblings lurking around in England!!! :-D

Thanks again to all especially Jan and Gins.

Thought you might like these


New Jersey, Deaths and Burials Index, 1798-1971

Name:Bridget Haggart

Birth Date:abt 1833

Birth Place:Ireland

Death Date:5 Oct 1880

Death Place:Jersey City, Hudson, New Jersey

Death Age:47 years

Marital Status:Married

Gender:Female

Residence:New Jersey

Father Birth Place:Ireland

Mother Birth Place:Ireland

FHL Film Number:589829




1900 United States Federal Census

Name:William Haggart

Age:65

Birth Date:Feb 1835

Birthplace:Ireland

Home in 1900:Jersey City Ward 1, Hudson, New Jersey

Race:White

Gender:Male

Immigration Year:1865

Relation to Head of House:Head

Marital Status:Widowed

Marriage Year:1855

Years Married:45

Father's Birthplace:Ireland

Mother's Birthplace:Ireland


William Haggart 65 <Store keeper
William Haggart 38 Son <Cooper
Kate Haggart 28 Daughter
Lulu Goodman 12 Granddaughter
Sophie Goodman 8 Granddaughter



1910 United States Federal Census

Name:
Sallie Goodman
[Lulu Goodman]
[Lullu Goodman]

Age in 1910:22

Birth Year:abt 1888

Birthplace:New York

Home in 1910:Jersey City Ward 1, Hudson, New Jersey

Race:White

Gender:Female

Relation to Head of House:Niece

Marital Status:Single

Father's Birthplace:New York

Mother's Birthplace:New York


Catherine Hagher 36
Sallie Goodman 22
Sophina Goodman 18

Thank you so much Gins as well as Jan.
Fantastic.
You can see how difficult it has been with so many name variants, and the older generation being illiterate - and probably with a thick Irish accent - so they didn't know if their name was spelled right or not.

Bingo!



New Jersey, Births and Christenings Index, 1660-1931

Name:Catherine Haggart

Gender:Female

Birth Date:8 Aug 1868

Birth Place:Jersey City, Hudson, New Jersey

Christening Date:23 Aug 1868

Father's Name:William Haggart

Mother's name:Bridget Fallon <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

FHL Film Number:1455524


Looks like the father changed his name to William, maybe to avoid confusion with his son of the same name



New Jersey, Births and Christenings Index, 1660-1931

Name:Thomas Patrick Haggart

Gender:Male

Birth Date:26 Jan 1871

Birth Place:Saint Peter-catholic, Jersey City, Hudson, New Jersey

Christening Date:5 Feb 1871

Christening Place:Saint Peter-catholic, Jersey City, Hudson, New Jersey

Father's Name:William

Mother's name:Bridget Fallon

FHL Film Number:1403371

Hmmmm.....Wm not Patrick but the family appear to be the one as the 1861 lot

Note: Wm is a 'Tube Maker'



1880 United States Federal Census

Name:Bridget Haggart

Age:48

Birth Year:abt 1832

Birthplace:Ireland

Home in 1880:Jersey City, Hudson, New Jersey

Race:White

Gender:Female

Relation to Head of House:Wife

Marital Status:Married

Spouse's Name:Wm. Haggart

Father's Birthplace:Ireland

Mother's Birthplace:Ireland


Household Members:


Wm. Haggart 46 Ire
Bridget Haggart 48 Ire
Mary A. Haggart 23 England
Elizabeth Haggart 21 England
Wm. Haggart 21 England
Samuel Haggart 18 England
Catherine H. Haggart 11 NJ
Thomas P. Haggart 9 NJ



New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957

Name:Samuel Hagarty

Arrival Date:9 Jun 1866

Birth Date:abt 1863

Age:3

Place of Origin:Great Britain;Ireland

Port of Departure:Liverpool, England

Destination:United States of America

Port of Arrival:New York, New York

Ship Name:City of New York

Travelling with:


William 30
Bridget 29
Marianne 7
Elizabeth 6
William 4
Thomas 1

England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Name:Samuel Haggart

Gender:Male

Baptism Date:2 Mar 1862

Baptism Place:St. Chad, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

Father:
Patricii Haggart

Mother:
Birgittæ Fallan Haggart

FHL Film Number:1999522


No images available to view for any of the above

Cant see any of them after the 1861 census that Jan posted. On that census, Patrick is a 'Glass tube melder'

England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Name:Gulielmus Haggart

Gender:Male

Baptism Date:23 Oct 1859

Baptism Place:St. Chad, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

Father:
Patritii Haggart

Mother:
Birgittæ Fallon Haggart

FHL Film Number:1999522

England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Name:Marianna Haggart

Gender:Female

Baptism Date:9 Sep 1855

Baptism Place:St Chad, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

Father:
Patritii Haggart

Mother:
Birgittæ Folen Haggart

FHL Film Number:1999522

Daughter baptism



England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975


Name:Elizabeth Haggarty

Gender:Female

Baptism Date:26 Jul 1857

Baptism Place:St Chad, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

Father:
Patritii Haggarty

Mother:
Birgittæ Follen Haggarty

FHL Film Number:1999522



Don't you just love the name variations!

Oh wow Jan!
That is fantastic. I have looked for Haggarts before but never found that record.
Catherine's father was a Patrick.
There is a very good chance that this Patrick is her brother and therefore the mysterious Bridget could be her sister-in-law.

Can you by any chance look on Ancestry to see if the marriage record is there?
If Patrick's father is another Patrick, and a weaver, he is the right one. That certificate may well be worth investing in.

I see that Patrick and Bridget have another son Samuel in 1862.

Many thanks!

Just to add, looks like they married in Birmingham

Marriages Sep 1854 (>99%)
Clarke John Birmingham 6d 259
Dowd Winifred Birmingham 6d 259
FALLAN Bridget Birmingham 6d 259
Haggart Patrick Birmingham 6d 259

Beverley, this might be a red herring, but just in case it's linked - I note you said you couldn't find any Haggarts in Roscommon:

1861 England Census
Name: Patrick Haggart
Age: 28
Estimated birth year: 1833
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Bridget Haggart
Gender: Male
Where born: Roswrimon, Ireland

Civil Parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark
Town: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire

Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: Lady Wood

Patrick Haggart 28
Bridget Haggart 29
Mary A Haggart 5
Elizabeth Haggart 3
William Haggart 1
Bernard Geraghty 26

Jan

If you think about the 'accents'

They may have had a strong accent

Their words may have been misinterpertruded

Thanks everyone, I will try and get my head round this.
The long and short of it is, whether Catherine senior is a Haggart, a Hagan or an Egan, she appears to have had a relative called Bridget in Birmingham in 1860! I thought I might be able to find the connection but unfortunately it seems to be impossible to narrow the field down.
In due course I might apply for a couple of birth certificates but I'm not even sure if it's worth the money!
Cheers
Beverley

This fits with Patchem' 1851 posting


1841 England Census

Name:Bridget Edgen

Age:30

Estimated birth year:abt 1811

Gender:Female

Where born:Scotland (Ireland on the image)


Civil Parish:Birmingham

Hundred:Birmingham

County/Island:
Warwickshire

Registration district:Birmingham

Sub-registration district:St Phillip


Piece:1146

Book:6

Folio:25

Page Number:10

Household Members:


Name

Age

John Edgen 37
Bridget Edgen 30
Machle Edgen 3
Henry Edgen 9
John Edgen 12
Jame Edgen 3 Mo <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Catherine Edgen 14
Sarah Edgen 5




Births Jun 1841
Hagan James Birmingham 16 333

Birmingham, England, Burials, 1813-1964

Name:Thomas Hagan

Birth Year:abt 1844

Burial Date:5 Aug 1844

Burial Place:
Birmingham, St Martin, Warwickshire, England

Burial Age:
7/12

Father:
John Hagan

Mother:
Bridget Hagan

Reference Number:DRO 34/95

Archive Roll:M125


Wonder if this another child to John & Bridget