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20 Mar 2014 21:35 |
Thanks to all for your plentiful assistance with my MORTON Tree. Your help is truly wonderful and so much appreciated.
To followers of this thread I do know there is a daughter to Adam & Janet MORTON.
Jessie Clark MORTON married her cousin Andrew MORTON (son of Adam's eldest brother John MORTON) and they resided in England/Scotland. There was one son of the marriage and I have further details on this family.
I am not continuing with the WOODS line as my focus is on the MORTON's.
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20 Mar 2014 18:49 |
1901 Census of Canada Page Information District: ON PEEL (#103) Subdistrict: Brampton (Town/Ville) A-1 Page 4 Image: View the image with: split screen Details: Schedule 1 Microfilm T-6490 5 37 Woods William H M Head M Mar 18 1853 48 6 37 Woods Emma R F Wife M Mar 30 1854 47 7 37 Woods Jessie L F Daughter S Aug 28 1878 22 [On line 5, the value for the givens field is "William H", the suggested correction is "William W".] http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1901/z/z002/z000093735.pdf Sched 2 http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1901/z/z002/z000093735.pdf [P4 L5 addy= Chapel & Peel St]
1891 http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1891/pdf/30953_148163-00431.pdf
1881 http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/e/e328/e008186757.pdf
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FMNJ-R31
1871 http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1871/pdf/4396752_00355.pdf
1861 http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1861/pdf/4108162_00251.pdf http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1861/pdf/4108162_00252.pdf
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Glenys
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20 Mar 2014 08:47 |
Thanks Chris.
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Chris Ho :)
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20 Mar 2014 07:29 |
Jessie Lye WOODS m. 28 Apr 1903 Peel County, Ontario CAN b. c1879 Brampton
(her Parents Marriage below 1877)
http://news.ourontario.ca/newmarket/114755/page/3
(Emma Ruth Tye, her Father George Tye (of the Brampton Times) worth a google)
http://www.ecbw.ca/brampton_bottles_&_collectables/brampton_times.htm
https://www.brampton.ca/EN/residents/Cemeteries/Documents/CemeteryWalkingTourMap.pdf
Chris :)
Emma Ruth Wood [Emma Ruth Tye] Death Date:11 May 1936 Death County or District:York Death State:Ontario Death Country:Canada Age:82 Gender:Female Estimated birth year:abt 1854 Birth Location:Ontario Father:George Tye
George Lye Death Date:Apr 1905 Death County or District:Peel Death State:Ontario Death Country:Canada Age:79 Gender:Male Estimated birth year:abt 1826 Birth Location:England (occupation, Newspapers)
edits (can you not get a trial for Ancestry, you really need to see info. on all images, there's quite a few relating, also the others from Leicester, England, relating to Jessie Clark Morton, including passenger lists)
1861 Brampton, Peel, Canada West Film Number:C-1062 Page Number:6 Ruth Tye Brampton, Peel, Canada West 1824 England George Tye Brampton, Peel, Canada West 1824 England (Publisher) Luther W Tye Brampton, Peel, Canada West 1847 Canada West James C Tye Brampton, Peel, Canada West 1851 Canada West Emma R Tye Brampton, Peel, Canada West 1855 Canada West Edith M Tye Brampton, Peel, Canada West 1858 Canada West Flay William (Printer. 25) Dunby Sarah (Servant. 20)
Canada, Wesleyan Methodist Baptismal Register, 1828-1910
James Caughey Tye 9 May 1852 Toronto, city, Home George, Ruth Ruth Tye (Date of Birth) 30 Mar 1854 (Baptism Date) 22 Apr 1854 Toronto, Home George, Ruth Clara Button Tye 18 Dec 1855 30 Mar 1856 Toronto, Home George, Ruth
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Glenys
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19 Mar 2014 23:50 |
Thanks again Gins & mgnv.
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mgnv
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19 Mar 2014 22:15 |
Gins - thanks for doing that.
Your presumption is correct. However, it's a lot easier (and cheaper) to find stated dob's in Canada - one can find them on b.certs, d.certs, gravestones, 1901 census, 1911 census (but day is missing - just month given), WW1 attestation papers. As you say, the age is often out by a year or 2, but it is very unusual to find the b'day changing (apart from the tear).
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19 Mar 2014 17:27 |
The DOB is as the above: 12 March 1882, registered 27 Nov 1882
The name on the image is: Morton Woods Morton
I presume that census information in Canada is only as reliable as the information given, as here in the UK.
Ages are more often than not, out by a year or two, or even more
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mgnv
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19 Mar 2014 09:12 |
Gins - a dob 0f 12/11/1882 would give ages of 8/18 on the census, which is what we see. A dob of 12/3/1882 should give ages of 9/19. CAN YOU CHECK THE IMAGE on the b.cert, paying heed to any adjacent registrations if they're organized that way.
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19 Mar 2014 08:14 |
Not sure where John G W comes from? The census you have just posted does not list him, it's Mort Morton
1901 Census of Canada
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J A Morton 52 Jessie H Morton 44 Mort W Morton 18 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Ica Fay Morton 15 Eliza A Woods 80
If they had a son in March 1882, not sure they could have had another in Nov 1882
Name: Martin Mertin Woods <<<<Morton as on the 1901 census Mother: Jessie Helena Woods Father: Jasa Alexander Morton Birth: 12 Mar 1882 - Huron
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mgnv
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19 Mar 2014 07:12 |
Glenys - no he's not been found - check the image.
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Glenys
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18 Mar 2014 21:28 |
Early morning of 19th here!
Thanks all for your input in this MORTON chase, we now seem to be going over some things again (and maybe getting the issue of the 2 brothers confused).. Sometime later this morning I'll repost this Family Tree with all the updates.
John G. W. MORTON has been found in the 1901 Census:
1901 Census of Canada Page Information District: ON HURON (East/Est) (#73) Subdistrict: Wingham (Town/Ville) G-2 Page 3
11 27 Morton J A M Head M Aug 14 1848 52 12 27 Morton Jessie H F Wife M Aug 31 1856 44 13 27 Morton John G W M Son S Nov 12 1882 18 14 27 Morton Ica Fay F Niece S Feb 17 1886 15 15 27 Woods Eliza A F Mother in Law W Jun 12 1820 80 9 Shuter St
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18 Mar 2014 20:44 |
I should have checked the 1901 I posted more carefully: http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1901/z/z002/z000071544.pdf As Gins has pointed out, there was no John G W Morton - he's really just a figment of the AG transcriber's making.
Re naturalization - it probably never happened. On a technical note, pre-formation of the British commonwealth, there was no Canadian citizenship (nor Oz citizenship). Responsible colonies (like Canada, Oz, NZ, S Africa, Newfoundland) had citizenship courts, but these courts could only award British citizenship pre-commonwealth. Post-commonwealth, the Canadian courts could only award Canadian citizenship. There was a delay in legislation which left some Canadians stateless - they're still in this limbo. As you might infer, the Canadian government can be very frustrating - actually, frustrating enough to provoke 3 armed rebellions (1 successful). The first failed, and the ringleaders were transported to Oz dans un paysage étrange, to an area just outside of Sydney now known as Canada Bay (I think).
British citizenship thru the early 1970s depended solely on the citizenship of the father - the mother didn't count.
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Gee
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18 Mar 2014 13:11 |
Ooo Margee...........I'm lost!
:-S
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MargaretM
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18 Mar 2014 13:01 |
Ontario, Canada, Marriages, 1801-1928 about Jessie Helena Woods Name: Jessie Helena Woods Birth Place: United States NY State Age: 23 Estimated birth year: abt 1857 Father Name: Phelander Woods Mother Name: Eliza Woods Spouse Name: James Alex Morton Spouse's Age: 30 Spouse Birth Year: abt 1850 Spouse Birth Place: Scotland Spouse Father Name: Adam Morton Spouse Mother Name: Janet Morton Marriage Date: 5 May 1880 Marriage County or District: Peel
Ontario, Canada, Marriages, 1801-1928 about Jessie Lye Woods Name: Jessie Lye Woods Birth Place: Brampton, Ontario Age: 24 Estimated birth year: abt 1879 Father Name: N N Woods Mother Name: Emma R Lye Woods Spouse Name: Adam Dyson Morton Spouse's Age: 28 Spouse Birth Year: abt 1875 Spouse Birth Place: Brampton, Ontario Spouse Father Name: Robert Morton Spouse Mother Name: Sarah Trueman Marriage Date: 28 Apr 1903 Marriage County or District: Peel
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18 Mar 2014 12:32 |
1891 Census of Canada
Name:Morton W Morton
Gender:Male
Marital Status:Single
Age:8
Birth Year:abt 1883
Birthplace:Ontario
Relation to Head of House:Son
Religion:Methodist
French Canadian:No
Father's Name:Jase Alx Morton
Father's Birth Place:Scotland
Mother's name:Jessie H Morton
Mother's Birth Place:United States
Province:Ontario
District Number:76
District:Huron East
Subdistrict:Wingham
Household Members:
Jase Alx Morton 42 Jessie H Morton 34 Morton W Morton 8 Elsie Sutherland 27
1921 Census of Canada
Name:Morton Morton
Gender:Male
Marital Status:Married
Age:38
Birth Year:abt 1883
Birth Place:Ontario
Relation to Head of House:Head
Spouse's Name:Lula Morton
Father Birth Place:Scotland
Mother Birth Place:USA
Racial or Tribal Origin:Scotch (Scotish)
Province or Territory:Ontario
District:Hamilton West
District Number:88
Sub-District:Ward No 3
Sub-District Number:10
City, Town or Village:Hamilton
Street or Township:86 Heckriver St
Municipality:Ward 3
Occupation:Manager
Income:6000
Household Members:
Morton Morton 38 Lula Morton 35
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18 Mar 2014 12:31 |
I thought Jessie Woods married Adam (Herbert) Dyson Morton, yet on the birth for Morton W Morton (Woods) it gives the father as James Alex Morton
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18 Mar 2014 12:22 |
Looks like he's Mort. W. Morton on the 1901 census but birthdate is given as 12 Nov. 1882. parents are J.A. Morton and Jessie H. Eliza A. Woods is mother-in-law.
1901 Census of Canada about Ica Fay Morton Name: Ica Fay Morton Gender: Female Marital Status: Single Age: 15 Birth Day & Month: 17 Feb Birth Year: 1886 Birthplace: MI Relation to Head of House: Niece Immigration Year: 1890 Racial or Tribal Origin: American Nationality: Canadian Religion: Methodist Province: Ontario District: Huron (east/est) District Number: 73 Sub-District: Wingham (Town/Ville) Sub-District Number: G-2 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age J A Morton 52 Jessie H Morton 44 Mort W Morton 18 Ica Fay Morton 15 Eliza A Woods 80
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18 Mar 2014 11:52 |
Now, here's confusion!
Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1913
Name:Martin Mertin Woods
Date of Birth:12 Mar 1882
Gender:Male
Birth County or District:Huron
Father's Name:Jasa Alexander Morton <<Barrister at law
Mother's name:Jessie Helena Woods
Archive Name:Archives of Ontario
Archive Series:MS929
Archive Reel:54
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18 Mar 2014 11:47 |
The name is Joy Fay on original here:
Ontario, Canada, Deaths, 1869-1938 and Deaths Overseas, 1939-1947 about Icy Fay Morton Name: Icy Fay Morton Death Date: 28 Sep 1936 Death County or District: York Death State: Ontario Death Country: Canada Age: 50 Gender: Female Estimated birth year: abt 1886 Birth Location: Seint Michegan Father: Robert E Morton Mother: Jane Morton She was born Flint, Michigan, daughter of Robert E Morton born Scotlandand Jane born Ontario. Informant was Adam Morton, brother. She died of cerebral haemorhage brought on by asthma.
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Gee
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18 Mar 2014 11:36 |
Hi Glenys
I'm totally confused over your last post :-S
'Why a name change from Herbert Adam MORTON to Adam Dyson MORTON? Would his (1891) death cert. give his date of birth rather than just his age? Curious as I cannot locate his death Herbert's cert. or any other info on him'
Herbert Adam Dyson Morton died in 1938
Full DOB 10th May 1874 as posted above
:-)
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