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Census 1851


Address: Principal Street, Whaddon County: Buckinghamshire

UNDERWOOD, Thomas Head Married M 33 1828 Innkeeper And Cooper Employing 1 Man & 1 Boy Whaddon, Buckinghamshire
UNDERWOOD, Anne Wife Married F 33 1828 Whaddon, Buckinghamshire
UNDERWOOD, Susannah Daughter F 9 1852 Scholar
Whaddon, Buckinghamshire
UNDERWOOD, Thomas Son M 7 1854 Scholar Whaddon, Buckinghamshire<<<<<<<<<<<
UNDERWOOD, Edward Son M 5 1856 Scholar Whaddon, Buckinghamshire
UNDERWOOD, Anne Daughter F 10 1851 Scholar Whaddon, Buckinghamshire
UNDERWOOD, George Son M 2 1859 Whaddon, Buckinghamshire

Hello Valerie and welcome to the Community boards....




I will let Valerie know that she has replies to her query.. :-)

Thank you so much for the wonderful information submitted to me for both Thomas Underwood and Joseph Goldsmith which has proved to be so helpful.
Valerie :-)

I wonder if anybody can help me find the parents of Henry Reed (1848-1919) married to Louisa Hull (1854). The lived near Reigate, Surrey. Henry's father was called George but I do not any further information.

Many thanks
Valerie

I am also looking for the parents to my Grandfather William Bert Roskilly (1874-1914) Lived in Chertsey, Surrey. He was married to Catherine Jane Masters (1877-1928). I would be grateful for any help you can provide.

Valerie

Census 1911 for William's birthplace:


Address: 19 Chantry Road Chertsey County: Surrey

ROSKILLY, William Burt Head Married M 36 1875 Patent Leather Dresser London Mile End<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
ROSKILLY, Catherine Wife Married 13 years F 34 1877 London Walworth
ROSKILLY, William Son M 12 1899 School London Walworth
ROSKILLY, Thomas Son M 11 1900 School London Walworth
ROSKILLY, Catherine Daughter F 6 1905 London Walworth
ROSKILLY, Lily Daughter F 2 1909 London Walworth
ROSKILLY, Nelly Daughter F 1 1910 London Walworth


William and Catherine's marriage for name of his father:

Name: William Burt Roskilly - leather dresser
Estimated birth year: abt 1875
Age: 22
Spouse Name: Catherine Jane Masters
Spouse Age: 21
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 25 Dec 1897
Parish: Bermondsey St Anne
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Thomas Roskilly - tailor<<<<<<<
Register Type: Parish Register

Witnesses were Francis Masters and Mary Ann Masters.Bride's father was John masters, a blind maker.

Groom's address was 31 Alma Road, Bride's 57 Fort Road.

With his aunt and uncle in 1891 'Bart' is actually 'Burt' on the image, and William's surname is Russkelly on the image.

Looks like that's where the name Burt came from:

Address: 73, Russell Scott Buildings, Tranton Road, Bermondsey
County: London

BART, Joseph Head Married M 48 1843 Rope Maker
Limehouse, London
BART, Margaret Wife Married F 48 1843 Manchester
RUSSFRELLEY, William Nephew Single M 16 1875 Belt Maker
Stepney, London<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

I think this is the marriage of Uncle Joseph Burt to Margaret:

Name: Joseph Thomas Burt - widower, rope maker
Estimated birth year: abt 1839
Age: 29
Spouse Name: Margaret Holley
Spouse Age: 29
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 31 Aug 1868
Parish: Bethnal Green St Bartholomew
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: Thomas Burt rope maker<<<<<<<<<<
Spouse Father: Rebecc Holley - silk dyer b[actual forename is hard to read, don't think it's Rebecc]

Now one of the witnesses was an Elizabeth Roskilly.

Purely speculative at this point, but was Elizabeth Roskilly possibly Joseph Burt's sister, wife to Thomas Roskilly and mother to William Burt Roskilly?

EDIT: NO, looks like she was Elizabeth Holley, probably Margaret's sister

????

It's Roskelly not Roskell on the census image, and Thomas is a tailor, like William's father on his marriage cert.

Census 1861

Address: 12, Barbers Shop, Brick Lane, Whitechapel
County: London

ROSKELL, Thomas Head Married M 21 1840 Tailor St Lukes, Middlesex<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
ROSKELL, Elizabeth Wife Married F 19 1842 Tailoress
Middleton, Lancashire
ROSKELL, Elvina Sister F 11 1850 St Lukes, Middlesex

EDIT: However it looks like this Thomas married Elizabeth Holley, who has the same surname as the Margaret who married Joseph Burt, and their fathers are both silk dyers. I think they are sisters, and according to the census records they were both born in Lancashire

Name: Thomas Roskilly - tailor
Spouse Name: Elizabeth Holley
Spouse Age: 18
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 28 Jan 1861
Parish: Shoreditch St James
Borough: Hackney
Father Name: William Roskilly - tailor
Spouse Father: William Holley - silk dyer
Register Type: Parish Register

Witnesses Richard Roskilly and R[illegible] Roskilly.

I think William Burt Roskilly's parents are Thomas Roskilly, tailor, and Elizabeth Holley.

EDIT: I think this is WIlliam Holley, Silk Dyer in census 1851, with daurs Margaret, who married Joseph Burt, and Elizabeth, who married Thomas Roskilly:

Address: 8, Charles Street, Stepney, Tower Hamlets County: Middlesex

HOLLEY, William Head Married M 32 1819 Silk Dyer Manchester, Lancashire<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
HOLLEY, Jane Wife Married F 39 1812 Dress Maker Manchester, Lancashire
HOLLEY, Margaret Daughter F 12 1839 Scholar Manchester, Lancashire<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
HOLLEY, Elizabeth Daughter F 8 1843 Scholar Derby, Derbyshire<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
HOLLEY, William Son M 6 1845 Scholar Waterloo Town, Surrey

We know from Thomas's marriage to Elizabeth that his father was William Roskily, a tailor.

I think this is Thomas in census 1851. Note he has a brother named Richard Roskilly, same name as one of his wedding witnesses:

Census 1851:

Address: 24, Marman Street, Saint George In The East, The Tower Hamlets
County: Middlesex

ROSKILLY, William Head Married M 41 1810 Tailor
Devonport, Devonshire<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
ROSKILLY, Sarah Wife F 45 1806 Tailoress
Devonport, Devonshire
ROSKILLY, Mary Daughter Unmarried F 19 1832 Tailoress
St Johns, Surrey
ROSKILLY, William Son Unmarried M 17 1834 Tailor
St Johns, Surrey
ROSKILLY, Richard Son M 14 1837 Tailor St Johns, Surrey
ROSKILLY, Thomas Son M 12 1839 Shoreditch, Middlesex<<<<<<<
ROSKILLY, Louisa Daughter F 8 1843 St George in the East, Middlesex
ROSKILLY, Francenia Daughter F 4 1847 Spitalfields, Middlesex
ROSKILLY, Lavenia Daughter F 1 1850 St James, Middlesex, Soho

These look like the baptisms for Thomas's older siblings born ST John according to the 1851 census posted in the previous entry:

The first baptism gives very full names for the parents:

Name: Mary Ann Quiller Roskilly
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 25 Sep 1831
Father's Name: William Quiller Roskilly<<<<<<<<<<
Mother's name: Sarah Williams Roskilly<<<<<<<<<
Parish or Poor Law Union: Horselydown St John
Borough: Southwark
Register Type: Parish Registers

Name: William Anthony Quiller Roskilly
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 5 May 1833
Father's Name: William Roskilly
Mother's name: Sarah Roskilly
Parish or Poor Law Union: Horselydown St John
Borough: Southwark
Register Type: Parish Registers


Name: George Roskilly
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 28 Jan 1835
Father's Name: William Roskilly
Mother's name: Sarah Roskilly
Parish or Poor Law Union: Horselydown St John
Borough: Southwark
Register Type: Parish Registers

Name: Richard Roskilly
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 18 Apr 1838
Father's Name: William Roskilly
Mother's name: Sarah Roskilly
Parish or Poor Law Union: Horselydown St John
Borough: Southwark
Register Type: Parish Registers

Father William is a tailor of Fair St. for all four baptisms.

So this looks like the marriage of Thomas's parents:

Name: William Quiller Ropkilly
[William Quiller Roskilly]
Spouse Name: Sarah William Quiller
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 8 Aug 1830
Parish: Newington St Mary
Borough: Southwark
Register Type: Parish Register

They were bachelor and spinster. Witnesses James and Mary Richardson

Baptism and parents for William Quiller Roskilly, (William Burt Roskilly's grandfather)

Forename(s): William Quiller
Surname: Roskelly
Year: 1810
Month: Feb
Day: 18
Father's Forename: Anthony<<<<<<<<<<<<
Mother's Forename: Mary<<<<<<<
Mother's Surname:
Birth Day:
Birth Month:
Birth Year:
Dedication: Stoke Damerel
Place: Plymouth
County: Devon
Page: 107
Archive Ref: 166/9
Notes:
Record source: Baptism Register - Transcripts
Data provider: Plymouth & West Devon Record Office Collection

and for His grandmother Sarah.

Forename(s): Sarah Williams
Surname: Quiller
Year: 1805
Month: Dec
Day: 22
Father's Forename: William<<<<<<<<<
Mother's Forename: Mary Ann<<<<<<<<<<<<
Mother's Surname:
Birth Day:
Birth Month:
Birth Year:
Dedication: Stoke Damerel
Place: Plymouth
County: Devon
Page: 51
Archive Ref: 166/9
Notes:
Record source: Baptism Register - Transcripts
Data provider: Plymouth & West Devon Record Office Collection

Marriage of Sarah Williams Quiller's parents William and Mary Ann?

Name: William Quiller<<<<<<<<<
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Age:
Spouse's Name: Mary Ann Williams<<<<<<<<<
Spouse's Birth Date:
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age:
Event Date: 15 Mar 1804
Event Place: Saint George,East Stonehouse,Devon,England
Father's Name:
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Father's Name:
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Race:
Marital Status:
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M15070-1
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 6036805
Reference ID:

Looks like William Roskilly may have been a bit naughty:

Name: William Roskilly
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1809
Date of Trial: 16 Dec 1844
Trial Year: 1844
Location of Trial: Middlesex, England
Sentence: Imprisonment
Crime: See Image
Date of Execution or Release: See Image

Sentenced to 7 years for larceny by servant..

Probably going to bed soon.....

RE your other query:

For INFO:


Name: Louisa Hull
Age: 20
Birth Year: abt 1854
Marriage Date: 27 Sep 1874
Archive Provided Parish: Kingswood, St Andrew
Parish as it Appears: Kingswood
Spouse:
Henry Reed - labourer
Spouse Age: 26
Father: Henry Hull - labourer
Spouse Father: George Reed - labourer

One witness was a Rachel Reed.

Census for birthplaces:

1881

Address: Harsel Hall Farm Cottages, Kingswood County: Surrey

REED, Henry Head Married M 33 1848 Carter (Al)
Beaden, Berkshire<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
REED, Leucara Wife Married F 26 1855 Carters Wife
Chelsea, Middlesex
REED, Walter H Son Single M 5 1876 Scholar
Kingswood, Surrey
REED, George F Son Single M 3 1878
Kingswood, Surrey
REED, Percy Son Single M 1 1880
Kingswood, Surrey
HITCHCOCK, William Lodger Single M 29 1852 Dairyman
Hoggeston, Buckinghamshire

Census 1891:

Address: 1, Oxford Cottages, Green Lane, Kingswood
County: Surrey

REED, Henry Head Married M 44 1847 General Labourer
Newbury, Berkshire<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
REED, Louisa Wife Married F 36 1855
Fulham, Middlesex
REED, Walter Henry Son Single M 13 1878 Engine Drivers Help
Kingswood, Surrey
REED, George Frederick Son Single M 15 1876 Errand Boy
Kingswood, Surrey
REED, Percy Son Single M 11 1880 Scholar
Kingswood, Surrey
REED, Florence Louise Daughter Single F 7 1884 Scholar
Kingswood, Surrey
REED, Edward Son Single M 5 1886 Scholar
Kingswood, Surrey
REED, Harry Son Single M 2 1889
Kingswood, Surrey
DERBY, Edward Lodger Single M 30 1861 Bricklayer
Portsmouth, Hampshire

Henry with father George and family???

Remember Henry's birthplace was given as Beaden Berks in census 1881.

Census 1851:


Address: Beedon Common, Beedon County: Berkshire<<<<<<<<<

READ, Walter Son M 0 (2 MOS) 1851 Beedon, Berkshire
READ, Henry Son M 2 1849 Beedon, Berkshire<<<<<<<<<<<
READ, Thomas Son M 4 1847
Hammersmith, Middlesex
READ, Susannah Daughter F 7 1844 Scholar
Hammersmith, Middlesex
READ, Sarah Wife Married F 32 1819 Leckhampstead, Berkshire<<<<<
READ, George Head Married M 33 1818 Agricultural Labourer
Beedon, Berkshire<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<


The family had moved to Surrey by 1861, and possible wedding witness Rachel had been born:

Address: Moggadore Cottages, Banstead
County: Surrey

READ, George Head Married M 42 1819 Ag Lab Beedon, Berkshire<<
READ, Sarah Wife Married F 41 1820 ..., Berkshire
READ, Thomas Son Unmarried M 15 1846 Ag Lab
Hammersmith, Middlesex
READ, Henry Son Unmarried M 13 1848 Ag Lab Beedon, Berkshire<<<<
READ, Walter Son M 11 1850 Scholar
Beedon, Berkshire
READ, Rachael Daughter F 9 1852 Scholar Beedon, Berkshire<<<
READ, George Son M 7 1854 ScholarBeedon, Berkshire
READ, Mary Daughter F 3 1858 ScholarLingwood, Surrey
READ, Fredrick Son M 10 1851 Banstead, Surrey

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