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I was wondering if some of you could please help, I am trying to help a family member who has motor neurone and cannot do anything for himself we are trying to trace his family tree and looking for the above man . He might have been born 1850s he had a daughter Rosina in 1879 and she died 1949 in Miles Platting in Manchester . He was a butcher .
Rosina was married to Charles Earp in 1903 Birmingham . Thank you so much .

Hi Brian

Could this be the family?



Birmingham, England, Baptisms, 1813-1912
about Rosannah Cotterill




Name:
Rosannah Cotterill

Baptism Date:
18 Oct 1874

Baptism Place:
Birmingham, St Stephen, Warwickshire, England

Father:
Edward Cotterill

Mother:
Hannah Cotterill

Reference Number:
EP32/2/2/3

Archive Roll:
M67/M297

Death record referred to:

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Rosina Earp
Birth Date: abt 1879
Date of Registration: Dec 1949
Age at Death: 70
Registration district: Manchester
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 10e
Page: 351

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1891 Census
5 Records found



Piece: RG12/2404 Place: Aston -Warwickshire Enumeration District: 18
Civil Parish: Aston Ecclesiastical Parish: St Albans
Folio: 100 Page: 2 Schedule: 14
Address: 1 Back Of 110 Longmore St

Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
COTTERILL Mary A Wife W F 35 Washerwoman(Em'ee) Warwickshire - Birmingham
COTTERILL George H Son - M 11 Scholar Warwickshire - Birmingham
COTTERILL Polly Dau S F 15 Clerk(Em'ee) Warwickshire - Birmingham
COTTERILL Roselina Dau - F 13 Wireworker(Em'ee) Warwickshire - Birmingham
COTTERILL Florence Dau - F 8 Scholar Warwickshire - Birmingham

Rosina in 1881? But father is George Henry:

1881 England Census
about Rosina Cotterill Name: Rosina Cotterill
Age: 3
Estimated birth year: abt 1878
Relationship to Head: Daughter
Father: George Hy. Cotterill
Mother: Mary A. Cotterill
Gender: Female
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Aston
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street address: 6110 Longmore St.

Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Deritend
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3015
Folio: 33
Page Number: 5
Household Members: Name Age
George Hy. Cotterill 26
Mary A. Cotterill 35
Louisa Cotterill 8
Mary A. Cotterill 5
Rosina Cotterill 3
George Hy. Cotterill 1

George Hy. is a painter & glazier born Liverpool. I think his age could be 29.

A bit more info from the image of the baptism: Address, Theodore St; Edward's occupation Spectacle Maker

Hi Potty

I cant access any images at the moment - see GC

Buddy BT

Baptism for the Rosina, daughter of George and Mary Ann:


Birmingham, England, Baptisms, 1813-1912
Rosina Cotterill

Birth Date:1878

Baptism Date:29 Jul 1886
Baptism Place:Bordesley, St Alban, Warwickshire, England
Father:George Henry Cotterill , Painter
Mother:Mary Ann Cotterill

3 other children baptised same day: Mary Ann. George and Florence

The family are on the 1901 census, address Gooch St, 9 Back 314.

What address is on the 1903 marriage cert?

Birmingham, England, Baptisms, 1813-1912
about Rosina Cotterill Name: Rosina Cotterill
Birth Date: 1878
Baptism Date: 29 Jul 1886
Baptism Place: Bordesley, St Alban, Warwickshire, England
Father: George Henry Cotterill
Mother: Mary Ann Cotterill
Reference Number: DRO 93/3
Archive Roll: Reel 10

Also baptised that day:

Mary Ann born 1876
George Henry born 1881
Florence born 1882

I think this is possibly Rosina and Charles in 1911 . Original says married 7 years 2. Children of the marriage both living, so, Charles must have already had 4 children when Rosina married him.


Name Relation Condition /
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where born Image
EARP, Charles Head Married M 45 1866 Weighing Machine Maker Warwicks Birmingham VIEW
EARP, Rosina Wife Married7 years F 33 1878 Warwicks Birmingham VIEW
EARP, William Son Single M 17 1894 Cabinet Maker Warwicks Birmingham VIEW
EARP, Walter Son Single M 15 1896 Waterproofer Garments Warwicks Birmingham VIEW
EARP, Alice Daughter F 12 1899 School Warwicks Birmingham VIEW
EARP, Lily Daughter F 9 1902 School Warwicks Birmingham VIEW
EARP, Albert Edward Son M 6 1905 School Warwicks Birmingham VIEW
EARP, Rose Anne Daughter F 1 1910 Lancs Manchester VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 24256 Reference: RG14PN24256 RG78PN1392 RD467 SD5 ED3 SN121 Registration District: Prestwich Sub District: Newton Heath Enumeration District: 3 Parish: North Manchester

Address: 163 Holland St Miles Platting Manchester (as in opening post)

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This Edward is a butcher but the marriage date is well after Rosina's birth and in the wrong part of the country:


Edward Cottrell
Estimated birth year:abt 1858
Age:35
Spouse Name:Jane Elizabeth Clarke
Spouse Age:30
Record Type:Marriage
Event Date:6 Nov 1893
Parish:Rotherhithe St Katharine
Borough:Southwark
Father Name:Henry Cottrell - Whitesmith
Spouse Father:Stephen Clarke

Register Type:
Parish Register

edited as wrong charles earp



Deaths Sep 1902 (>99%)
Earp Kate 33 Birmingham 6d 43

Rosina's marriage

Name: Charles Earp
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1903
Registration district: Birmingham
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume Number: 6d
Page Number: 161
Records on Page:
Name
Rosina Cotterill
Charles Earp
Frederick Hall
Mary Elizabeth Hedgecock

In 1901 Charles was married to Kate and was still a weighing scale maker
Address 5 Tudor Place Aston, Birmingham, with children William, Walter and Alice as in the 1911.

1901 England Census about Walter Earp
Name: Walter Earp
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1896
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Father: Charles Earp
Mother: Kate Earp
Birth Place: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Civil Parish: Aston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Patrick
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image
Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Deritend
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2856
Folio: 129
Page Number: 6
Household schedule number: 38
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Earp 34
Kate Earp 32
William Earp 7
Walter Earp 5
Alice Earp 2

Brian, as well as Rosina's address from the marriage cert, please could you tell us who the witnesses were?

Marriages Mar 1891 (>99%)
>>>>Earp Charles Birmingham 6d 157
>>>>HANSON Kate Evelyn Birmingham 6d 157
Price Susan Birmingham 6d 157
Venvil David Birmingham 6d 157
Veuvil David Birmingham 6d 157

Original says Kate Evelyn Hanson. Charles was a chandelier Maker, his father, George, was a machine maker.

Name: Hatte Evelyn Hanson
Gender: Female
Birth Year: abt 1869
Marriage Date: Feb 1891
Marriage Age: 22
Marriage Place: Birmingham, St Mark, Warwickshire, England
Spouse: Charles Earp
Spouse Gender: Male
Spouse Marriage Age: 23
Father: William Henry Hanson
Spouse's Father: George Earp
Reference Number: DRO 33
Archive Roll: 615

Kate's death

Deaths Sep 1902 (>99%)
Barnickle Lilian Maud 0 Birmingham 6d 43
Brown Gertrude Mabel 0 Birmingham 6d 43
>>>Earp Kate 33 Birmingham 6d 43

For information .........................

I have Cotterells in my mother's family, nothing to do with the ones that Brian is looking for. BUT ..............


I have discovered that one has to look in records for ..................

Cotterell
Cotterill
Cottrell
Cottrill

I love Ancestry Sylvia but FMP gives the option to tick a search for similar spelling. Sometimes it's a pain because you get pages and pages of info to check through but it is very useful.

I beginning to doubt that Rosina's father was an Edward!

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NOT the Longmore Street Ros* -this is she:
Birmingham, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1937 about Rosina Cottrell
Name: Rosina Cottrell
Gender: Female
Birth Year: abt 1878
Marriage Date: 15 Sep 1903
Marriage Age: 25
Marriage Place: Balsall Heath, St Thomas in the Moors, England
Spouse: Charles Ernest Preece
Spouse Gender: Male
Spouse Marriage Age: 27
Father: George Henry Cottrell
Spouse's Father: Charles Preece
Reference Number: DRO 70
Archive Roll: 578