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Kerry,

As someone new to genealogy you may find the hints and tips provided by following the links on this thread useful:

http://www.genesreunited.co.za/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1318489

As a general rule of thumb when searching for information less input is sometimes better than more. On your initial search just enter basic information into the search engine input form. This may produce lots of results/leads but if you cannot immediately identify who or what you are searching for from those results search again. This time adding a bit more known information into the search form. Hopefully this will narrow down the results resulting in you finding what you are searching for. Be flexible when entering such things as birth year or spelling of names. Consider entering wild cards in case something has been either inaccurately recorded or wrongly transcribed.

Good luck.

Hi Kerry,

Not sure what records are available on GR, I used ancestry for the London ERs - have just checked and I don't think GR has these records only census and recent ERs (from 2002)

Only some old divorce records are available on line (national archives & ancestry have some), but nothing later than the early 1930s.

Thank you Roy! :-D

Kerry, When using the GRO reference don't give the GRO any other details that don't appear on the index entry,

If you add a name or mis-spell any details they will reject your aplication as not found,

Roy

Ah thank you for that Flip. Yes I will. Do you know if there would be any reason none of my searches bring anything up when I try and search the ER on this site? I have paid the platinum membership if that makes a difference to anything, every search I have done for various names always comes up with no results found.
And is there a register for divorces? I have never found anything for this either and yet clearly the potential sister is divorced as married twice?
Sorry for all the questions, I feel a bit cheeky (but grateful!) that you are all so kindly finding information for me and I am unable to find these things myself originally!!! :-D

Hi Kerry,

I've just looked at the image for the birth ref, to make sure I gave you the right info. It was definelty OND/1952, ref 5c 1539 - the image is clear. Go back to them and ask them to check again. Reg district was Lambeth.

Have a received an email from GRO "There is no trace of the above mentioned person at the reference you quoted." So all this waiting..... Anyway I have just reapplied in case there was a type error, so frustrating!

Thanks for the ER updates I will look up those addresses and see what I can find out, sounds promising.

Also, it would appear her husband Harvey remarried in 1952 to Joan M Cox, and they were together in 1959 at 115 Uxbridge Rd, Twickenham. So, were they divorced by this time?

However, the long awaited birth certificate may prove more leads to check out......
This is only speculation at the moment.

Actually Kerry, Harvey Francis & Kathleen Frances Marriott were on the ERs 1936 & 1937 at 15A Sunderland Terrace Paddington. But I can't see them together after this, or before actually:

Kathleen Frances Marriott
Year:1937
County or Borough: Westminster
Ward or Division/Constituency: Paddington
Street address:15a SUNDERLAND TR

She may still be a contender, as she has dropped the other name on the ERs.

Thank you Mavis, that sounds promising! I am still waiting for the birth certificate for the potential sister - this waiting is like torture! Hopefully this may shed some light, would be great if she included this additional middle name. I have tried to look up ER Kathleen Marion Francis Marriot and for Harvey Francis Marriot but no luck. No death for her with the surname Marriot Faulkner or Schofield that I can see or even anything on the ER, but perhaps I am not looking in the right places!
Hopefully birth certificate will match and show a new address to work from!

Thank you peter for your information too.

Life was very different under the old Adoption Laws. In the 1950's, adoption was almost a secret affair. The adopters were expected to raise the Child as if he/she had been born to them and were not expected to say otherwise. As your Dad was not a baby when he was adopted, it is highly likely he was made aware of siblings. There was not a laid down hard and fast rule.

The 1950'a were still in the days when birth parents could demand their child back from foster parents, they were usually successful. If the birth parents had never contacted their child for years, this would be a case to be put before the Courts to dismiss any opposition to the granting of an Adoption Order. This would protect the well being of the Child and allow him to remain with the only parents he had known.

Peter

There is a tree on Ancestry for Harvey Francis Marriott and Kathleen Marion Frances Schofield - her birth name- but seems to be Kathleen Frances Marion
Schofield. They married in Hampstead Sep Q 1930.

not any details on Kathleen but there is a child born 1930 [ no details but male]

is it David J W Marriott mth Schofield Dec Q 1930 Southwark ??

is he the older brother ?? cant find details on him.

this Kathleen could still have had children 1950's aged 39y/40y

Mavis

Thank you Peter, that is useful to know. Would adopters be advised of a case history/background? I'm just wondering with regards to the reference of older siblings would that be a possible memory if they were in care together for a few years or hearsay passed to him by adopted parents in which case may not be true.

P.S.
I forgot to say Kerry, I hope your search is fruitful!
Peter

Just to clarify a point.......................
Parents are permitted to oppose the making of an Adoption Order and to be heard.
If they do so, the adoption agency requests the Judge to find that the parents are
unreasonably withholding their permission. The Judge has to find this before an
Adoption Order is granted.
The parents are permitted to be at the Adoption hearing and to present their objections to the Court. If this happens, the prospective adopters are in another room. The parties do not meet.
Peter

Thank you Flip, yes hopefully if a match then a new address may be a better lead, also I'm wondering the middle name of cossian is really usual so perhaps mistranscribed on my dad's birth cert and should be something else.

I will update once certificate is received!

When I've ordered in the past they have usually taken about a week, so just a little more patience needed I'm afraid.

Like you, I can't find anything about either of his parents - I did follow up on a Joseph Faulkner living in Paddington just before the war (with his parents & brother), but it turned out to be a dead end as he died in the war in 1942.

We have no idea of their ages or where from, but their names are not coming up - at least not their full names. The only Kathleen F I can find married a Harvey Francis Marriott in 1930, then re-married in 1962. But she was born in 1910, full initials Kathleen M F Schofield (but married as K F M).

Hopefully when the birth certificate arrives, if it is another of their children, there may be some other info we can follow up on.

Let us know when it arrives, we'll see what can be found :-)

Still patiently waiting for birth certificate of possible sister, ordered last weekend and hoped it would have arrived by today, anyone know what the general delivery time is?

Meantime, trying my hardest to find a birth death or marriage for my fathers parents as named on his birth certificate but can't find ANYTHING for them, it's like they don't exist, any thoughts anyone??

Thanks :-)

Fingers crossed for you Kerry, it's the only possible lead we've come up with.

If your father was right and had older siblings including a brother they don't appear to have been registered as Faulkner with mmn Schofield. From 1930 to 1950 there were only 2 boys with this name combination born, one died in infancy, the other Gordon was born in 1933 in Leeds, so unlikely.

Look forward to your update when the certificate arrives :-)

Thank you, yes patience is the tricky bit at this stage!! I will be sure to keep you updated on its arrival.

Thanks again
Kerry