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Thank you Roy, i have just gone through all valentines marriages to see if i can find out who she married...off to bed...Once again thank you for your help.

Joanie x

Maybe finding him through is Army records would help ?

Frank Cooper Army Catering Corp 7639123, this might give family info.

Joanie

NOK can apply for his service records, details below

http://www.veterans-uk.info/

To apply for his service records you would need his death certificate unless he died whilst still serving, with a death certificate you don't need to be NOK or their consent but the MOD will only release his basic info which includes dob, This changes 25 years after death when they will release all info they hold, Army records from the MOD will cost £30 for his basic info the extra info that may be available also has a charge of £30 per record

See https://www.gov.uk/requests-for-personal-data-and-service-records

Could also do with knowing if her second marriage had her status as widow,

a search for his death on Ancestry could help? just enter Frank Cooper and leave the death date and location blank and just put dob as sept 1913 +/- 1 year should bring up the deaths with his dob




Roy

Thank you Folks, i have tried to find all the Frank's born in those times, all marriages of Joseph to try and match wifes name - with mother, will try to match up today....x

Still no luck...any bright idea's would be appreciated....maybe go to Library next week and see electrol rolls for 6 heyburn road tuebrook Liverpool for 1937/38 as i know they did not do them during WW2, and hope they lived there then or maybe 1946.....x

Still havent got to Liverpool central library, the weather too bad, but spent the day at local one...Did find 2 possibles
1...Mary Ann Brooks married a Joseph Cooper 1897 in Prestwich and had a son in Jan 1914 named Frank Cooper.
2....Harriet Clark married a Joseph Cooper in Haslington and had a son Frank Cooper in 1914 in Preswich.

Looked at death's for Frank Cooper born Lancashire round 1914.
1...F.C. b 12/12/1914 - died March 1990 in Leigh.
2...F.C. b 14/08/1913 - died june 1998 Manchester
3...F.C...b 1914/15 - died dec 1947 age 32 Warrington
4...F.C...b 1915 - died sept 1960 age 45 Warrington.
hoping by collecting this info something may fall into place :-S

Joanie x

If the info on his marriage cert ref his age is correct then his birth is somewhere between 2nd April 1913 and the 30th March 1914, The 14/08/1913 - died june 1998 Manchester is the one to have a punt on,

I have also done some work on marriages and as i said he could have been born anywhere, So i checked Lancs and Cheshire BMD web site because they give spouses names before 1911 i found the ones you posted plus 3 more in Cheshire one 1903 to Emily Williams one in 1908 to Lilian Rachel H Williams and another in 1897 to Sarah Worthington.

The death cert is what is most important and the best way forward, Hopefully Informant will be a family member

With the Correct death cert his military record can be obtained which should have his DOB and next of kin details which when he first joined the army would be one of his parents.

One last thought, dad Joseph Cooper may have been a lie? If Frank was an illegitimate child then he may have invented the name to save face infront of future inlaws



Roy

Thank you Roy, lots to think about...will contact his granson and see if any more info has come to light.
The thought on Joseph not being real is a good one and thank you for that. will try the big library next week to check address out....

Once again thank you Roy for your kind help.

Ciao

Joanie x ;-)