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James Kendall 1842

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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 6 Feb 2014 18:06


In 1911 James is in the workhouse, described as former house decorator, also listed as married:


1911 England Census about James Kendall
Name: James Kendall
Age in 1911: 68
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation to Head: Inmate
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Cocknow, Northamptonshire, England
Civil Parish: Edmonton
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address: Edmonton Union Workhouse, 77 Bridport Road, Upper Edmonton
Marital status: Married
Occupation: Formerly House Decorater
Registration District: Edmonton
Registration District Number: 132
Sub-registration District: Edmonton
ED, institution, or vessel: 56-59
Piece: 7406

His death:
England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 about James Kendall
Name: James Kendall
Birth Date: abt 1843
Date of Registration: Dec 1918
Age at Death: 75
Registration District: Edmonton
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 3a
Page: 1392

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 6 Feb 2014 17:55

This appears to be the same family in 1881, although James is a paperhanger, not a hairdresser.
His age is 39 on the image, not 29.

1881 England Census about James Kendell
Name: James Kendell
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Mary A. Kendell
Gender: Male
Where born: Coochnol, Northamptonshire, England

Civil Parish: Tottenham
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address: 8 Woodville Grove West
Marital status: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Paperhanger

Registration District: Edmonton
Sub-registration District: Tottenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1385
Folio: 30
Page Number: 54
Household Members:
Name Age
James Kendell 29
Mary A. Kendell 28 - Leeds, Yorkshire
Mary A. Kendell 10
Alice M. Kendell 6
Arthur J. Kendell 4
William J. Kendell 2
Frederick J. Kendell

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Feb 2014 15:36

I'm sorry, but you are wrong, Philip, about the wife of JAMES - or someone is

...........have you actually done any research yourself?

Look at the info provided by people on this thread......then re-think

Mary

Mary Report 6 Feb 2014 14:54

I think you should look at the James Kennell I posted about, Iam sure they are one in the same.They have same birth year and place of birth.

1851 there is a Fanny kennel 1847 grandaughter and I think this is her .
Fanny Walton kennell 1847 Hardingstone Northamptonshire baptised by Mary 25/12/1848 in Cogenhoe.No husband shown so Mary looks to be single.
V15 P 262.

James Kennell 1843 Hardingstone V15 P 262.

1851 name Kennell
1841 same family Cannall
with daughter Mary born @ 1826.

1851 Mary Kennell in Infirmary as a patient.

James kennel/Kendall is in Cogenhoe as apprentice hairdresser in 1861,is he the son of Mary?? and brother to Fanny?? who later goes on to marry Mary Ann.

Maryb.

Philip

Philip Report 6 Feb 2014 13:04

Diane pearl kendell 1946 is married to Kenneth wade who I have spoken to and where I got this information from
Nobody seems to get any further than James Kendall 1842

Philip

Philip Report 6 Feb 2014 13:03

Diane pearl kendell 1946 is married to Kenneth wade who I have spoken to and where I got this information from
Nobody seems to get any further than James Kendall 1842

Philip

Philip Report 6 Feb 2014 13:00

Right....
I have James Kendall 1842 married to Mary Ann wilkinson 1850
Children Annie m, arthur j, Jamey, John henry 1889,Mary a, and William j.
In 1891 census.
John Henry Kendall 1889 married Annie e loveday 1888
Children Annie Amelia, John Henry, Emmy, Frederick g and Arthur William Kendall 1915- 1987
Arthur William married pearl Marjorie sheppard 1915- 1984
Children Diane pearl and roger w

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 6 Feb 2014 11:11

Have sent a pm to Philip.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Feb 2014 10:49

I don't think that Wilkinson is remotely relevant......................at least not as a wife for James

If Philip returns, perhaps he will tell us how he 'traced' these people when his' info' is not supported by the facts

We aren't even sure who he's looking for...............JAMES or JOHN

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Feb 2014 10:45

Presumably, the child James born c1869 died..............a second James was born c1883

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 6 Feb 2014 10:44

You're right about the marriage year, Reggie - silly me.

The only possible marriages, then (barring wild spelling of Kendall) - or maybe they didn't actually marry - are these, though not in any obvious places:

Marriages Dec 1869 (>99%)
KENDALL James Kendal 10b 1021
Pepper Margaret Kendal 10b 1021
ROBERTS Mary Ann Kendal 10b 1021
WALKER Anthony Hodgson Kendal 10b 1021

Marriages Mar 1870 (>99%)
Harris Mary Annie Swansea 11a 659
Kendall James Edward Swansea 11a 659
MORRIS Daniel Swansea 11a 659
WILLIAMS Elizabeth Ann Swansea 11a 659

There are dozens of marriages of Mary Ann Wilkinson. all over the place - too many to look at.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Feb 2014 10:40

It may, of course, be the case that they never actually married................

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Feb 2014 10:35

1862 would make Mary no more than 10/11 when the marriage took place..................

..............and that Mary may have been married before

Name: James Kendall

Spouse's Name: Mary Ann Baxter Or Sprate

Event Date: 09 Jul 1862
Event Place: Saint Mary Spital Square Or Wheeler Chapel,Spitalfields,London,England


Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M04265-1
System Origin: England-ODM

EDIT

Oops...........already found by Mel - but confirmation never goes amiss

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Feb 2014 10:31

Get a copy of this - for FACTS about the mother

Births Jun 1876 (>99%)
KENDALL Arthur James W. Ham 4a 21

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Feb 2014 10:28

His birth may not have been registered - no penalty until 1875

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Feb 2014 10:27


FMP's 1891 - for birthplace info for the children.................

1891 census


Person: KENDALL, James Address: 32, Stamford Road, Tottenham

KENDALL, James Head Married M 49 1842 Decorator
Northampton VIEW
KENDALL, Mary A Wife Married F 39 1852 Confectioner
Leeds, Yorkshire VIEW
KENDALL, Mary A Daughter Single F 20 1871 Charwoman
Stratford, Essex VIEW
KENDALL, Annie M Daughter Single F 16 1875 Charwoman
Stratford, Essex VIEW
KENDALL, Arthur J Son M 15 1876 Decorator
Stratford, Essex VIEW
KENDALL, William J Son M 12 1879 Scholar
Stratford, Essex VIEW
KENDALL, James Son M 8 1883 Scholar
Tottenham, Middlesex VIEW
KENDALL, John H Son M 3 1888
Tottenham, Middlesex

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 6 Feb 2014 10:26

???

Births Mar 1842 (>99%)
KENDALL James Market Harborough 15 185

Births Jun 1842 (>99%)
KENDALL James Market Harborough 15 179

These are the only James Kendall (or variation) births in Northants 1840-5

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 6 Feb 2014 10:25

Here is that marriage.


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Mary Ann Baxter
Name: Mary Ann Baxter
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1808*****************
Age: 54******************************
Spouse Name: James Kendale
Spouse Age: 60********************************
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 9 Jul 1862
Parish: Spital Square, St Mary
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: Wm Spratt
Spouse Father: Wm Kendale
Register Type: Parish Register

Both widow and widower and James is a Mariner so I don't think this is your man.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Feb 2014 10:24

So it is JAMES...............not JOHN

And why did you say that he married Wilkinson when there is absolutely nothing to support the idea?

You say you've 'traced' these people - how?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 6 Feb 2014 10:22

????

1861 England Census about James Kendal
Name: James Kendal
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: 1843
Relation: Apprentice
Gender: Male
Where born: Corknoe, Northamptonshire, England
[Cooknoe/Cogenhoe, Northamptonshire, England]

Civil Parish: Northampton All Saints
Ecclesiastical parish: St Katherine
Town: Northampton
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration District: Northampton
Sub-registration District: All Saints
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 73
Piece: 940
Folio: 49
Page Number: 16
Household Members:
Name Age
John Lowe 38
Harriet Lowe 30
Thomas Lowe 7
John Lowe 4
James Kendal 18 - Hairdresser apprentice