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Births Sep 1902 Rumsey Frederick Elham 2a 1133

Name: Jem Lee
Age (Original): 25
Gender: Male
Birth Year: 1856
Birthplace: Milton, Kent, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Travelling Scissor Grinder
Address: Coleshall Meadows
Event Place: Iwade, Kent, England
Disability:
Record Type: Household
GS Film number: 1341231
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 972 / 118
Page Number: 11
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head Jem Lee M 25 Milton, Kent, England
Wife Harriet Lee F 21 Canterbury, Kent, England
Daughter Louisa Lee F 3 Sheerness, Kent, England
Daughter Caroline Lee F 0 Sheerness, Kent, England

Name: Louisa Lee
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1911
Gender: Female
Age: 35
Birthplace: Sheerness, Kent
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Bromley
Sub-District: Bromley
Parish: Bromley
County: Kent

Lee Betsy, Plato, Misella 24 Mar 1850 Folkestone
Lee Betsy Matilda, George, Elizabeth 30 Sep 1866 Ashford

Lee Brittania Olive, George, Rebecca 9 Jul 1905 Ash next Ridley
Lee Charlie, Ambrose, Rose 22 Jul 1900 Crockenhill

Lee Cinemante, Leonard, Ellen 7 Jul 1895 Crockenhill

Lee Cinderrella, Sam, Patollinia? 24 Mar 1850 Folkestone
Lee David, David, Mary Ann 20 Oct 1855 Sheerness
Lee Diana, Sam, Patollinia? 24 Mar 1850 Folkestone
Lee Edward, Charity 27 Jan 1822 Cheriton

Lee Emma, Jethro, Charlotte 19 Apr 1841 Gillingham
Lee George, Thomas, Sarah 29 Jul 1877 Ashford

Lee Harold James, George Silvester, Angelina 29 Jul 1906 Ash next Ridley

Lee Henry, Henry, Emily 8 Jun 1886 Crockenhill

Lee Henry, Albert, Eliza 10 Jul 1892 Crockenhill


Lee James, Methuselah, Jane 17 Jul 1859 Newchurch

Lee James, Isaac, Lydia 22 Dec 1844 Gillingham

Lee Jasper, Jasper, Sophie 1 Aug 1915 Crockenhill
Lee Jos, Sam, Patollinia? 24 Mar 1850 Folkestone

Lee Julia Cecilia, Alexander, Jane 3 Mar 1897 Chatham St Paul
Lee Loui ?, Ann 6 Jan 1788 Hythe

Lee Mary, John, Hester 26 May 1923 Green St Green

Lee Matilda, Leonard, Ellen 22 Jul 1906 Crockenhill
Lee Phrenidge?, Sam ,Patollinia? 24 Mar 1850 Folkestone

Lee Priscilla, John, Hester 26 May 1923 Green St Green
Lee Thomas, Jethro, Charlotte 15 Oct 1837 Canterbury
Lee William, John, Mariah 16 Mar 1824 Capel
Lee William, Thomas, Sarah 25 Oct 1874 Ashford

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... TRAVELLER & ITINERANT BAPTISMS FOUND IN KENT RECORDS. ... Lee David, David, Mary Ann 20 Oct 1855 Sheerness Lee ... Todd James, Isaac, Louisa 29 May 1879 ...

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Name: Jessie G Forbes
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 1920
Event Place: Elham, Kent, England
County: Kent
Page: 2205
Volume: 2A
Affiliate Line Number: 20
Registration Quarter: 1
Rumsey probably married one of the following people
Name: John A Rumsey

Name: Frederick Rumsey
Christening Date: 29 Jul 1902
Christening Place: Folkestone, Kent, England
Father's Name: William James Rumsey
Mother's Name: Louisa Rumsey
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I01491-1
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1786457

so Louisa is named as the mother

thank you Ann

Mavis

Up date on Louisa

now have the birth cert of Fredrick and the Marriage of Louisa

Birth

21st May 1902 - 21 Ethelbert Road -Folkstone.

Frederick - father - William James Rumsey - mother - Louisa Rumsey formerly -
-Smith -- father Fish Hawker - X the mark of Louisa Rumsey mother 21 - Ethelbert Road - Folkstone.

I checked this address 1901 a George E Smith 31y born Whistable
and Matilda 29y born Folkstone 2 children Matilda 3y - Elizabeth 1y
then they change names 1911 he is Graves Smith and wife is Elizabeth children the same
George/ Graves Smith is the child of Edward Smith and Matilda Andrews.

marriage

22nd November 1932 -- Battle Sx reg office.

William James Rumsey 55y Horse dealer - Bexhill - Alfred Joseph Rumsey dec.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fishmonger
Louisa Lee 55y ---------- Bexhill -------------- James Lee - Horse dealer.
W J Rumsey
X the mark of Louisa Lee

witnesses M Rumsey and C Peirce

so is Louisa a Smith or Lee

I have info on Rumsey's they are from Essex

Mavis

Graves Edward Smith his wife was Elizabeth Frances Ellen Hood
they married 1897 Folkstone


when Louisa Rumsey died 1950 year of birth 1876
so born between 1875 - 1879 ??

Mavis

found the Rumsey family on 1939 index {Runway?}

so have DoB

William J Rumsey 17th Nov 1879 that's right
Louisa Rumsey 29th Nov 1879 a year out
Martha 1911 that's right

Have the birth cert for Louisa Lee

born 29th Nov 1878 Homerhall ? Doddington Louisa - girl - father James Lee -
mother Harriet Lee formerly Webb - fathers occup. Skewer and peg maker --
signature X and address of inform. Fairlight Sussex

still none the wiser on what to look for Harriet Webb -- or -- Smith

help of any kind most welcome

Mavis

You could try Elizabeth on her thread re Romany Gypsy look ups

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1342925