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I'm guessing this is the guy that Edward was going to?



1920 United States Federal Census

Name:
Frederick R Hardie[Fredrick R Hardie]

Age:25

Birth Year:abt 1895

Birthplace:Chile

Home in 1920:Hastings-on-Hudson, Westchester, New York

Race:White

Gender:Male

Immigration Year:1919

Relation to Head of House:Head

Marital Status:Married

Spouse's Name:Estelle M H Hardie

Father's Birthplace:Scotland

Mother's Birthplace:California


Household Members:

Frederick R Hardie 25
Estelle M H Hardie 23

OOPS!
Thanks,Flip!

Moxx

Here's a long shot............

If Edward was the manservant of Frederick Russell Hardie (above) then maybe he stayed with him?

I've had a root around and there is a distinct possibility that Frederick Hardie returned to his fathers birthplace - Scotland

Maybe, Edward went with him and died there?

Nothing coming up on ScotlandsPeople

Jude

Note to Jude..

Look at the next page,,,,,still line 7.

Maureen...

Note to Maureen - thanks - something new I have now learned!! :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D

Hey judge B4beatles what do you mean look at the next page line 7. What website are you on

Andrew, they are looking at the immigration records on ancestry, sometimes the details span 2 pages which Jude hadn't appreciated (nor had I until yesterday) - so thanks for the tip Maureen!

Hi Andrew

Do you have any feedback regarding the posts that have been submitted please?


Girls, I just did a search using the title of this thread and two came up, this one and another.

The other title was the same and in 'red' with no date and no facility to click and open it

My question is, are deleted threads now showing when you undertake a search?

Interesting

Morning,Gins.
I think we're all learning something from this thread!
I had given up trying to use the search facility on here but with your prompting I tried again. I THINK this is what you see:
Topic Posted by Last Post Views Replies
Edward Sydney Curteis Andrew 19 Jan 2014 09:07 by Gins 20 27
Edward Sydney Curteis(preceding in red letters) b1887 married Elizabeth Boh ...

Just guessing that the search terms are highlighted that way and it's still the same post.

And if that made sense :-D :-D

Moxxxx

Gins,

My search only gave this thread.

Nothing red.

:-(

I only get one result coming up on this board and that's this query (the name Curteis highlighted in red in the search result)??

Just in case it's of any relevance, Edward Sydney Curteis' army pension records stated his nok as his father Charles Christopher Curteis of 61 Malta Road, Leyton, Essex.

His marriage is added as to Elizabeth Beatrice Jane Bohringer at Edmonton Register office 26/08/1908 (witnesses Andrew & Lilian Bohringer).

There is a line through the section for any children.

Odd that you don't get the 'red' thread title Patcham :-S

Mo, I think you're right, that's what I see when I search. Never seen that before though!

MC - the nok being Charles, his father, is because the date of the record is 1902 and precedes his marriage (obviously)!! And the children are two of three - the third one not being born when he was discharged I guess....so perhaps they didn't update nok?

Jude

I wondered about that Jude but as I skimmed through the pages there were entries up to 1914 but perhaps they just didn't bother updating .....

Thanks to you all for interesting info. Have also found grandfather went to WW1 as a rigger in the Air Force . My father Andrew Charles Curteis was born 28/08/1914.
I knew that Edward Sydney had gone to Hastings on Hudson as the ships manifest said that but I had no link with his gentleman and wife. I have searched BDM for UK 1926 when my grandmother remarried as had assumed that he had died as can't find any record of a divorce. The thought was that it was 7 years after he left UK so isn't she then allowed to remarry if there has been no contact with the wife. I have then assumed that he stayed in the USA but can find no records.

Also found that they had three children but the girl died same year as birth 1913.

I think the seven year thing is the time when a missing person can be assumed dead....but he was hardly missing! Your grandmother's second marriage would be a good certificate to purchase just to see what her status was given as. Of course, if she said she was widowed, they probably would have taken her word for it.

Jude

Following Frederick and Estelle
Between 1919 and 1928 they were back and forth to London - an address in Kensington accompanied from 1925 with son Miles Clayon (later OBE) born 1924

Then there is this.....

Name: Estelle M H Hardie
Birth Date: abt 1897
Date of Registration: Sep 1929
Age at Death: 32
Registration District: Westhampnett
Inferred County: Sussex
Volume: 2b
Page: 424

Guessing - given the registration district that this is Frederick

Name: Frederick R Hardie
Birth Date: abt 1895
Date of Registration: Sep 1930
Age at Death: 35
Registration District: Kensington
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1a
Page: 120

and his probate...sadly no mention of Edward!

Name: Frederick Russell Hardie
Probate Date: 3 Mar 1931
Death Date: 27 Aug 1930
Death Place: Middlesex, England
Registry: London, England

There's a link to him here in 1922

http://www.westchestergov.com/recordcenter/marriages.asp?NAV=8&pageNum=C

Hi HeyJudeB4Beatles,
Have requested the marriage cert for Edward from Westchester. Lets hope that it is the right one. You can only do this by snail mail and they wont accept credit cards.
Thanks for this Andrew