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Zoe
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13 Jan 2014 23:13 |
In my first message on this post, I did include the link and explain that I had previously asked for information on Arthur Jackson as I didn't want to get in trouble for posting twice. However in this post I only wanted help in locating birth records for Freda Hebdon.
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Mavis
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14 Jan 2014 10:09 |
come on you kind researchers do see if you can help
Freda is a problem ;-) <3
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alviegal
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14 Jan 2014 10:26 |
Irene is with sister, Dorothy in 1911 in Brixton so can't be any connection there Mavis.
HUNT, George Stanley Head Married M 33 1878 Commercial Traveller Wallpaper Brixton London HUNT, Dorothy Wife Married F 21 1890 Occasional Secretarial Work Finchley London FOX, Irene Sister In Law Single F 24 1887 School Teacher Finchley London
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14 Jan 2014 12:50 |
Bit of a long shot but could this man be related?
1881
Name: Alfred Burgess Age: 17 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864 Gender: Male Where born: Finchley, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Finchley County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street Address: Torrington Cottage Lodge Lane Marital Status: Married Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Gardener Registration District: Barnet Sub-registration District: Finchley ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1372 Folio: 35 Page Number: 64 Household Members: Name Age Frances Burgess 60 Alfred Burgess 17
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14 Jan 2014 13:00 |
Sounds good although this may be his death.
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 about Alfred Burgess Name: Alfred Burgess Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863 Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1888 Age at Death: 25 Registration District: Barnet Inferred County: Middlesex Volume: 3a Page: 131
He could have had children though and I think this may be his marriage with a Hertfordshire connection.
England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1940 about Alfred Burgess Name: Alfred Burgess Gender: Male Birth Date: abt 1863 Age: 24 >>Father's Name: Jesse Burgess Spouse's Name: Emily Brewer Spouse's Age: 21 Spouse's Father's Name: George Brewer Marriage Date: 29 Sep 1887 Marriage Place: Shenley, Hertfordshire, England
1871 census transcription details for: Lodge Lane, Finchley Print Close
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG10 Piece: 1334 Folio: 20 Page: 32 Reg. District: Barnet Sub District: Finchley Parish: Finchley Enum. District: 5 Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: Lodge Lane, Finchley County: Middlesex Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born >>BURGESS, Jesse Head labourer M 64 1807 King? Oxfordshire BURGESS, Frances Wife F 50 1821 Middlesex BURGESS, Thomas Son M 15 1856 Middlesex BURGESS, Jane Daughter F 12 1859 Middlesex BURGESS, Alfred Son M 8 1863 Middlesex
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14 Jan 2014 13:06 |
Liking that Alviegal.
Earlier census had his father as Jesse. And didn't Freda have Emily as a middle name at one point?
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14 Jan 2014 13:09 |
1891
Name: Emily Burgess Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Toddington, Bedfordshire, England Civil Parish: Shenley Ecclesiastical parish: Shenley Town: Shenley County/Island: Hertfordshire Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration District: Barnet Sub-registration District: South Mimms ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1052 Folio: 48 Page Number: 23 Household Members: Name Age Henry D Anderson 52 Frances M Anderson 51 Francis H Anderson 23 Eveline R Anderson 19 James O Anderson 19 Edward M Strouts 22 Mary Woods 50 Emily Burgess 25 <<<<< WIDOW Nellie Brand 18 Eliza Andrews 19 Ellen Hooper 16
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Andrew
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14 Jan 2014 13:17 |
Pssible marriage
e First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Sep 1887 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BREWER Emily Barnet 3a 297 BURGESS Alfred Barnet 3a 297
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14 Jan 2014 13:26 |
Got to go out very shortly but will look back later.
I wonder who this is?
1901
Name: Emily Burgers [Emily Burgess] Age: 12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889 Relation to Head: Boarder Gender: Female Birth Place: Shenley, Hertfordshire, England Civil Parish: Shenley Town: Shenley County/Island: Hertfordshire Country: England Street Address:
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Employment status: View Image Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Thomas Perry 50 Martha Perry 52 Emily Burgers 12
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alviegal
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14 Jan 2014 13:28 |
???
Marriages Jun 1896 (>99%) Burgess Emily Thirsk 9d 681 Scan available - click to view Hebdon John Thomas Thirsk 9d 681
Just going to check this one out.
EDIT Maybe her death?
Parish Record Collection - Burial Record Print Close Year: 1898 Age: 32 Years: 32 Forenames: Emily Surname: HEBDON Place: Felixkirk Description: St Felix County: Yorkshire N. Riding Country: England Notes: Record source: Cleveland Memorial Inscriptions Data provider: Cleveland Family History Society
Parish Records Collection 1538-2005 - Burial Print Close First name(s): John Thomas Last name HEBDON Date of burial: 2 Feb 1936 Age at death: 65 Calculated year of birth: 1871 Place of burial: Felixkirk Dedication: St Felix County: Yorkshire (North Riding)
Felixkirk is a village and civil parish in the Hambleton district of North Yorkshire, England. The village is situated about three miles north-east of Thirsk.
1901 census transcription details for: Carpenters Arms, Felixkirk Print Close
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG13 Piece: 4548 Folio: 32 Page: 3 Reg. District: Thirsk Sub District: Sutton Parish: Felixkirk Enum. District: 4 Ecclesiastical District: Feliskirk St Felix City/Municipal Borough: Address: Carpenters Arms, Felixkirk County: Yorkshire (North riding) Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born HEBDEN, John Head Married M 60 1841 Farmer Sctton, Yorkshire HEBDEN, Mary Wife Married F 62 1839 Bishop Thornton, Yorkshire >>HEBDEN, John T Son Widower M 30 1871 Farmers Son Tunstall, Yorkshire HEBDEN, Ada Daughter Single F 25 1876 Tunstall, Yorkshire HEBDEN, Albert T Grand Son Single M 4 1897 Patley Bridge, Yorkshire THOMPSON, Herbert W Servant Single M 15 1886 Yardman On Farm Feliskirk, Yorkshire
1911 census transcription details for: Farm Felix Kirk Thirsk Print Close
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RG14PN29057 RG78PN1679 RD530 SD3 ED4 SN14 Reg. District: Thirsk Sub District: Sutton Parish: Felixkirk Thirlby Enum. District: 4 Address: Farm Felix Kirk Thirsk County: Yorkshire (North riding) Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born HEBDEN, John Widower M 69 1842 Farmer Hipswell Yorks >>HEBDEN, John Thomas Son Widower M 40 1871 Farmers Son Working On Farm Tunstall Yorks HEBDEN, Ada Daughter Single F 35 1876 Dairy Wiorker Tunstall Yorks HEBDEN, Albert Thomas Grandson M 14 1897 Patley Bridge Yorks
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14 Jan 2014 13:30 |
????
1891
Name: Emly Burgess Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889 Relation: Granddaughter Father's Name: John Brewer Gender: Female Where born: Shenley, Hertfordshire, England Civil Parish: Shenley Ecclesiastical parish: Shenley Town: Shenley County/Island: Hertfordshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
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Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration District: Barnet Sub-registration District: South Mimms ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1052 Folio: 20 Page Number: 1 Household Members: Name Age George Brewer 62 Sophia Brewer 61 John Brewer 30 Sophia Brewer 6 Emly Burgess 2 James Brewer 9/12
Births Jun 1889 Burgess Emily Barnet 3a 226
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14 Jan 2014 13:48 |
Hi Zoe - see you got jumped on for 'posting twice' too! even though you mentioned that at the beginning! Off to go and have a look and see if I can help :)
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alviegal
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14 Jan 2014 14:07 |
Emily with her family.
1871 census transcription details for: Hope Terrace, Toddington Print Close
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG10 Piece: 1559 Folio: 32 Page: 22 Reg. District: Woburn Sub District: Toddington Parish: Toddington Enum. District: 2 Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: Hope Terrace, Toddington County: Bedfordshire Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born BREWER, Sophia Head F 42 1829 Bedfordshire BREWER, Ann Daughter F 20 1851 Bedfordshire BREWER, Jane Daughter F 18 1853 Bedfordshire BREWER, Joseph Son M 16 1855 Bedfordshire BREWER, Elizabeth Daughter F 14 1857 Bedfordshire BREWER, John Son M 10 1861 Bedfordshire BREWER, Mary Daughter F 8 1863 Bedfordshire BREWER, Emily Daughter F 6 1865 Bedfordshire BREWER, Sarah Daughter F 4 1867 Bedfordshire BREWER, Thomas A Son M 0 1871 Bedfordshire
1881 census transcription details for: Frabley Gardens, Shenley (Herts) Print Close
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG11 Piece: 1368 Folio: 35 Page: 27 Reg. District: Barnet Sub District: South Mimms Parish: Shenley (Herts) Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: Frabley Gardens, Shenley (Herts) County: Middlesex Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born BREWER, George Head Married M 50 1831 Coachman Domic Serv Toddington, Bedfordshire BREWER, Sophia Wife Married F 49 1832 Laundress Toddington, Bedfordshire BREWER, Sarah Daughter Single F 13 1868 Scholar Toddington, Bedfordshire BREWER, Thomas Son Single M 10 1871 Scholar Toddington, Bedfordshire
1881 census transcription details for: Woodlands Cotgs, Hamlet Of Theobald St, Aldenham Print Close
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG11 Piece: 1434 Folio: 35 Page: 9 Reg. District: Watford Sub District: Bushey Parish: Aldenham Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: Woodlands Cotgs, Hamlet Of Theobald St, Aldenham County: Hertfordshire Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born EAMES, George Head Married M 32 1849 Agr Labr St Stephens, Hertfordshire EAMES, Anne Wife Married F 27 1854 London St Marylebone, London, Middlesex EAMES, George T Son Single M 5 1876 Scholar St Stephens, Hertfordshire EAMES, Emily H Daughter Single F 3 1878 Aldenham, Hertfordshire EAMES, Ada T J Daughter Single F 0 1881 Aldenham, Hertfordshire FITZJOHN, John Lodger Single M 57 1824 Agr Labr Aldenham, Hertfordshire TOMALIN, Elizabeth Servant Married F 34 1847 Housekeeper Great Cheverell, Wiltshire >>BREWER, Emily Servant Single F 17 1864 Domestic Serv Housemaid Toddington
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Zoe
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14 Jan 2014 14:12 |
Thank you to everyone for taking the time to look for Freda! Was losing hope as she hasn't made it easy to trace her
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Andrew
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14 Jan 2014 14:13 |
This should be the John Hebdon who married Emily Burgess
1901 England Census about John T Hebden Name:John T Hebden Age:30 Estimated Birth Year:abt 1871 Relation to Head:Son Gender:Male Father:John Hebden Mother:Mary Hebden Birth Place:Tunstall, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish:Felixkirk Town:Felixkirk County/Island:Yorkshire Country:England Street Address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View Image Neighbors: View others on page Household Members Name Age
John Hebden 60 Mary Hebden 62 >>> John T Hebden 30 Widower Ada Hebden 25 Albert T Hebden 4 Herbert W Thompson 15
Still living with parents in 1911. Widower.
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Mavis
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14 Jan 2014 15:02 |
Looks as if you kind researchers are coming to the rescue -- well done - I've had the morning of - went to Eastbourne - very pleasant
was Freda a Emily Burgess ??? onwards we go
Mavis :-)
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Mavis
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14 Jan 2014 16:36 |
There seems to be 2 births for Emily Burgess could she have been reg twice
June Q 1889
Emily Burgess --- Barnet 3a - 226 [Finchley] Emily Burgess --- Watford 3a 585 [Shenley]
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Mavis
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14 Jan 2014 19:08 |
The marriage which may be Emily Brewer who married Alfred Burgess in 1887 her death age 32y in 1898 is right and also may prove why Freda / Emily is Burgess / Hebdon
a copy needed to prove Zoe
Marriages Jun 1896 Burgess Emily Thirsk 9d 681 Hebdon John Thomas Thirsk 9d 681
pat on the back for all concerned
Mavis
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Zoe
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14 Jan 2014 20:34 |
Thank you!! Very much appreciated.. Will look into it!
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14 Jan 2014 21:42 |
If we are on the right track, Albert would be a half brother to Emily.
Name: Albert T Hebdon Spouse Surname: Brough, Evelyn E. A. Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1918 Registration District: Thirsk Inferred County: Yorkshire North Riding Volume Number: 9d Page Number: 843
Look on Freebmd - there's a couple of children from that marriage. You can then see if they are on any trees on here.
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One died young
Name: Alan Hebdon Birth Date: abt 1918 Date of Registration: Dec 1940 Age at Death: 22 Registration District: Thirsk Inferred County: Yorkshire North Riding Volume: 9d Page: 795
How sad, so did the other child
Name: Joseph C Hebdon Birth Date: abt 1927 Date of Registration: Jun 1938 Age at Death: 11 Registration District: Thirsk Inferred County: Yorkshire North Riding Volume: 9d Page: 420
Name: Albert Thomas Hebdon Birth Date: 1897 Date of Registration: Mar 1982 Age at Death: 85 Registration District: Northallerton Inferred County: North Yorkshire Volume: 2 Page: 2510
Name: Evelyn Elizabeth A Hebdon Birth Date: 4 Nov 1890 Date of Registration: Jun 1975 Age at Death: 84 Registration District: Northallerton Inferred County: North Yorkshire Volume: 2 Page: 2191
Name: John T Hebdon Birth Date: abt 1871 Date of Registration: Mar 1936 Age at Death: 65 Registration District: Thirsk Inferred County: Yorkshire North Riding Volume: 9d Page: 637
Name: John Thomas Hebdon of Thirlby Grange, Thirlby near Thirsk Probate Date: 14 Mar 1936 Death Date: 29 Jan 1936 Death Place: Yorkshire, England Registry: Yorkshire, England
Probate to his widow Violet Catherine
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