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Can someone please find this family in 1901 census - street address, relationships & occupation info very helpful.
Many thanks

Here they are in 1911
BENTLEY, Charles Head Married M 50 1861 Chimney Sweep Leicester
BENTLEY, A Wife Married F 48 1863 Leicester Leicestershire
BENTLEY, Annie Daughter F 27 1884 Wool Spinner Worslett Dover Leicester
BENTLEY, Elsie Daughter Single F 18 1893 Wool Spinner Doubler Leicester
BENTLEY, Lizzie Son M 11 1900 Leicester Leicestershire
BENTLEY, Leonard Son M 11 1900 Leicester Leicestershire
BENTLEY, Ernest Son M 8 1903 Leicester Leicestershire
BENTLEY, Daisy Daughter F 6 1905 Leicester Leicestershire
RG number: RG14 Piece: 19168 Reference:
RG14PN19168 RG78PN1150A RD407 SD1 ED4 SN285
Registration District:Leicester Sub District: North West Leicester Enumeration District:4 Parish: Leicester
>Address: 31 Pasture Lane Leicester County: Leicestershire

1901 England Census No 34 Pasture Lane


Name:Elsie Bentley

Age:7

Estimated Birth Year:abt 1894

Relation to Head:Daughter

Gender:Female

Father:
Enoch Bentley

Mother:
Annie Bentley

Birth Place:
Leicestershire, England

Civil Parish:
Leicester formerly St Margaret

County/Island:
Leicestershire

Household Members:

Name

Age

Enoch Bentley 41 Chimney Sweep
Annie Bentley 38
Annie Bentley 17 Cotton spinner
Minnie Bentley 13 Office girl at cotton mill
Elsie Bentley 7
Elizabeth Bentley 5
Leonard Bentley 11 Months


The father is Enoch on the other censuses, not sure why in 1911 he is named Charles?

..1891 England Census
about Enock Bentley Name: Enoch Bentley
[Enock]
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Annie
Gender: Male

Civil Parish: St Margaret
Ecclesiastical parish: St Margaret
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration District: Leicester
Sub-registration District: East Leicester
ED, institution, or vessel: 88
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2535
Folio: 88
Page Number: 5
Household Members: Name Age
Enock Bentley 30 (Chimney Sweep)
Annie Bentley 27
Annie Bentley 7
Minnie Bentley 3
Ernest Bentley 1

Many thanks

Silly question........but
Enoch? = Charles? ........can we be sure that this is the same person & not a brorther / uncle?

??


..England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915
about Enoch Bentley Name: Enoch Bentley
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1882
Registration District: Leicester
Inferred County: Leicestershire
Volume Number: 7a
Page Number: 383
Records on Page: Name
Enoch Bentley
Annie Fowkes

The relationship is Enoch - Head, Annie Wife and the others are children

Maybe he preferred Enoch!

The marriage has his name as Charles, if he's the one who married Ann Smith

Edit: I think PP has the correct marriage?

Thanks for your help - I have stored ALL the info, but not sure as yet if Enoch & Charles really are one & the same.......

I have found an Enoch Bentley married to Annie Fowkes
also a
Charles Bentley married to either Ann Smith or a Sarah ANN Coulson or a SusANNA Booth or a Hannah Vernon.....all could call themselves Annie.

It is still possible that brothers Enoch & Charles both lived at different addresses in Pasture Lane Leicester. and may have similar childrens names?

Is it possible to check who was living at 31 in 1901?
and who was living at 34 in 1911

1881 - Enoch Bentley age 17 (1864) b St Ma?, Leicestershire

Boy 2nd Class on HMS Implacable at Stoke Dameral, Devenport

Not seeing an Enoch Bentley birth in Leics around the right time.

If this is all the same person his DOB does alter over the period of the census noted by about 4 years, but that wouldn't be unusual

??
The 1871 has Enoch b MArchington, Staffordshire

1871 census transcription details for: Holme Street, West, St Mary, Leicester

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG10
Piece: 3286
Folio: 75
Page: 12
Reg. District: Leicester
Sub District: Leicester, West
Parish: St Mary
Enum. District: 30
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough: Leicester
Address: Holme Street, West, St Mary, Leicester
County: Leicestershire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
BENTLEY, Enoch Head M 38 1833 Staffordshire
BENTLEY, Catherine Wife F 42 1829 Staffordshire
BENTLEY, Enoch Son M 10 1861 Staffordshire
BENTLEY, Ann Daughter F 16 1855 Staffordshire
BENTLEY, Caroline Daughter F 12 1859 Staffordshire
BENTLEY, Sarah A Daughter F 8 1863 Staffordshire

Which would go with this birth
Civil Registration event: Birth

Name: BENTLEY, Enoch
Registration district: Uttoxeter
County: Staffordshire
Year of registration: 1860
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no: 6B
Page no: 276

The Bentley family tree on ancestry has this for him, and also the marriage to Ann Fowkes - 26/6/1882:

Enoch Bentley

Birth 25 July 1860 in Matchington, Woodlands, Staffordshire, England
Death Living
Death 14 April 1929 in Leicester, Leicestershire, England

It also links to this census:

Enoch Bentley
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Enoch Bentley
Mother's Name: Catherine Bentley
Gender: Male
Where born: Marchington, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Leicester St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
Town: Leicester
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England
Registration District: Leicester
Sub-registration District: West Leicester
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Household Schedule Number: 57
Piece: 3286
Folio: 75
Page Number: 12
Household Members: Name Age
Enoch Bentley 38
Catherine Bentley 42
Enoch Bentley 10
Ann Bentley 16
Caroline Bentley 12
Sarah A Bentley 8

Just for the address:
1881 Ancestry Annie Fowkes
Name: Annie Fowkes
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relationship to Head: Daughter
Father: Thomas Fowkes
Mother: Elizabeth Fowkes
Gender: Female
Where born: Leicestershire, England
Civil Parish: St Margaret
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England
Street Address: 34 Pasture Lane
Occupation: Factory Hand (Tex)
Registration District: Leicester
Sub-registration District: East Leicester
ED, institution, or vessel: 113
Piece: 3172
Folio: 57
Page Number: 11
Thomas Fowkes 49
Elizabeth Fowkes 50
???Annie Fowkes 15
Maud Fowkes 14
Joseph Fowkes 12
Henry Fowkes 9
Mary Fowkes 12
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 3172; Folio: 57; Page: 11

This is FMP's version of the 1901 census, with the family at 36 Pasture Lane - I wondered why 34 didn't come up in an address search!
Looking at the original - father Enoch is noted Schedule 57 No 34 House Uninhabited. The 57 has then been crossed out and given to the Rest of family at No 36, the next house, but he remains at No 34!!

1901 census transcription details for: 36, Pasture Lane, Leicester

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 2988
Folio: 80
Page: 8
Reg. District: Leicester
Sub District: North West Leicester
Parish: Leicester
Enum. District: 23
Ecclesiastical District: St Margarets
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 36, Pasture Lane, Leicester
County: Leicestershire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
BENTLEY, Enoch Head Married M 41 1860 Chimney Sweep Burton on Trent, Staffordshire
BENTLEY, Annie Wife Married F 38 1863 Leicester
BENTLEY, Annie Daughter Single F 17 1884 Cotton Spinner Leicester
BENTLEY, Minnie Daughter Single F 13 1888 Office Girl At Cotton Mill Leicester
BENTLEY, Elsie Daughter Single F 7 1894 Leicester
BENTLEY, Elizabeth Daughter F 5 1896 Leicester
BENTLEY, Leonard Son M 0 (11 MOS) 1901

Thanks folks ...all info stored for future ref:

I need to confirm or not whether Charles Bentley & Enoch Bently are one & the same person ( or brothers)???

I have found an Enoch Bentley married to Annie Fowkes
also a
Charles Bentley married to either Ann Smith or a Sarah ANN Coulson or a SusANNA Booth or a Hannah Vernon.....all could call themselves Annie.

It is still possible that brothers Enoch & Charles both lived at different addresses in Pasture Lane Leicester. and may have similar childrens names?

Is it possible to check who was living at 31 in 1901?
and who was living at 34 in 1911

This may help answer the question.

Hi Stuart & Maureen - sorry - our messages crossed - many thanks forthe info on the addresses........

Looking through the census records of the parents Enoch and Catherine....they do not appear to have a son called Charles.

I have no idea why he signed his name as "Charles" on the 1911........but following on from the 1891 and 1901, i would say it is too much of a coincidence for it not to be Enoch!

Perhaps he just peferred the name Charles.

Leonard Bentley's service records are on Ancestry. He gives his father's name as Charles Enoch Bemtley.


Maureen

Edit: Sigh. BENTLEY. :-)

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1286686?page=0

(is above info. relating?)

Chris :)

Thanks P.H.

Maureen - thats a great find - it proves that Charles & Enoch are in fact one & the same person.........

I dont have ancestry Im afraid - so would not have found all this info without your help

Thanks again
Gill

Oh dear.

It seems we have all spent time searching for info that has already been posted before!

:-(

Chris

Yep - I had honestly forgotten about that posting in 1911!

I am coming back to this part of my tree 2-3yrs later, and am still a bit confused by all the info received. I am tracing the Fowkes family from Leicester and when I got to
a John Henry Fowkes, I noticed that he had married an Elsie Bentley - I had her father as Charles Bentley who married a Anne or Annie - surname unknown. I now believe that this was Anne Fowkes. so on my tree I have two anne fowkes who are one & the same ( I believe)

I have stored it and will sift through it all to try to unravel it.....

but, does anyone know how to link up these tree members as I have Annie in two different places.........( hope that makes sense ).