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Joanna Louise
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30 Dec 2013 09:08 |
Harry's wedding cert to Stella states he was a Home Decorator (journeyman) the address was 29 Bensham Manor Road, Thornton Heath. Witnesses on cert say E.Davies and D.Reynolds
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Joanna Louise
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30 Dec 2013 09:05 |
@ Batmansdaughter..... Many thanks for your reply......there is very little on Harry sadly (as i would have loved to know more on my grandfather) All i have is: birth cert born 28th Feb 1897, parents Mary (formally Allen) and George. Death cert, died 18th March 1966.
I also have the wedding cert to my grandmother.....this proved difficult as they were married on the 18th Aughust 1945. It states my grandfather was a widower but unable to track a first marriage for him. I found 1 marriage and ordered cert this was to a Norah Alice on August the 6th 1922 in Penge, Kent but i don't believe this is him.
I was given 2 war medals also the Victory Medal and British War medal ....nim not sure if these belong to Harry Burt or Harry's father George.
Unfortunately i statred this tree with my father who has since passed away so very little info on Harry (Harry died when my father was a child).
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BatMansDaughter
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30 Dec 2013 08:56 |
Jessie married Frederick Edmunds, no part of your ancestors..... If her name could be spelt differently they often did that.
This is George jnr,
All London, England, School Admissions and Discharges, 1840-1911 Results London, England, School Admissions and Discharges, 1840-1911 about Geo Burt Name: Geo Burt Age: 7 Birth Date: 8 Sep 1890 School: Cottenham Road School Borough: Islington Admission Date: 1 Jul 1898 Parent: Geo Notes: Cottenham Road School (0181) opened 1873, later Hanley School from 1938. In 1951 Hanley Secondary School became Archway Secondary School for Girls. Hanley Primary School became Hanleigh Primary School in 1951 Reference Number: LCC/EO/DIV03/COT/AD/003 Just nice for you to have their DOB. Address is Schofield Rd again.
On your other thread about Harry's Ist marriage, when he married your Nan in 1945 what occupation did he put down, also what was his address and the name of the witnesses?
Dee :-D
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Joanna Louise
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30 Dec 2013 08:49 |
Ahhh i understand......strange how there are 3 different spellings for Jessie's surname
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BatMansDaughter
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30 Dec 2013 08:47 |
This is Nelly as the address of Schofield Rd is given,
Historical Records London, England, School Admissions and Discharges, 1840-1911 about Nellie Burt Name: Nellie Burt Age: 10 Birth Date: 25 Dec 1888 School: Cottenham Road School Borough: Islington Admission Date: 28 Aug 1899 Parent: George Burt Notes: Cottenham Road School (0181) opened 1873, later Hanley School from 1938. In 1951 Hanley Secondary School became Archway Secondary School for Girls. Hanley Primary School became Hanleigh Primary School in 1951 Reference Number: LCC/EO/DIV03/COT/AD/007
Has Harry ever been found on the 1911 census? I see George and Isabel with their Grandmother Allen, Albert is with his father so it's just Nellie and Harry that I can't find and wondered if they were together?
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BatMansDaughter
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30 Dec 2013 08:01 |
This looks like Marys death,
Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Deaths Jun 1906 (>99%) Burt Mary Ann 41 Islington 1b 152
And George's 2nd marriage,
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Jun 1908 (>99%) ALGEE Jessie Islington 1b 638 ALGEN Jessie Islington 1b 638 Alger Jessie Islington 1b 638 BURT George Islington 1b 638 <<<<<<<<< EDMUNDS Frederick Harold Islington 1b 638 HENNESSEY Cecilia Mary Islington 1b 638 <<<<<<<<<<
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Penny
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30 Dec 2013 06:58 |
The 1911 census asks the Question ''How long have you been married'' and the answers were recorded, in this case 3 years
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Joanna Louise
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30 Dec 2013 02:39 |
Thank you for your replies.....this has confused me somewhat? George (1866) born married Mary Ann Allen in 1886 and they had children Nelly -1889 George -1891 Isabel - 1896 Harry - 1897 (my grandfather) Albert - 1898
It does state on his wedding banns to Mary Allen that he was a Carman (as stated above) but i have not come across the above names any of the other names listed??
Please can you advise how you knew they were only married for 3 years.
Many thanks in advance x
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BatMansDaughter
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30 Dec 2013 01:24 |
If Margee's 1911 family is correct then the family lived in Willesden according to electoral rolls, so this maybe George's death,
Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page Deaths Dec 1952 (>99%) BURT George 86 Willesden 5f 297
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MargaretM
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29 Dec 2013 23:50 |
Could this be him in 1911 with a second wife? They've only been married 3 years.
1911 England Census about George Burt Name: George Burt Age in 1911: 44 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: St Pancras Civil Parish: Islington County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 21 Calverley Grove, Upper Holloway N Marital Status: Married Occupation: CARMAN EMPLOYED Registration District: Islington Registration District Number: 10 Sub-registration District: Upper Holloway ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Piece: 806 Household Members: Name Age George Burt 44 Cecilia Mary Burt 32 Albert Burt 10 Sidney Richd Vincent Burt 2 Eleen Cecilia Burt 1 Alfred Hardeman 24
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MarieCeleste
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29 Dec 2013 23:45 |
For background: http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1328634?page=0
What is the last census or other record that you've found him on?
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Joanna Louise
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29 Dec 2013 23:38 |
Can anyone help me find the death record for my great grandfather. He was born in 1867 in St Pancras, London. He was married to Mary Allen on the 26 Sept 1886. His parents were William G Burt (1835-1881) and Isabella Burt (1837-1916) Any info would be great xx
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