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JoyLouise
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26 Nov 2013 18:03 |
Can anyone please tell me who married Annie Linge in 1893 Q4 at Chelmsford?
The details I have from online are 4A ?Line 618 and 326.
No spouse's name is shown.
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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26 Nov 2013 18:12 |
try looking on the following census for the spouse of each male
Name: Annie Linge Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1893 Registration District: Chelmsford Inferred County: Essex Volume Number: 4a Page Number: 615 Records on Page: Name Alfred Gardener Annie Linge Ellen Percival Elijah George Saveall
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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26 Nov 2013 18:16 |
looks like it was Elijah Saveall
1901 England Census about Alfred Gardener Name: Alfred Gardener Age: 28 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Ellen Gardener Gender: Male Where born: Galley Wood, Essex, England Civil Parish: Ridgewell Ecclesiastical parish: Ridgewell St Lawrence Town: Ridgewell County/Island: Essex Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
View Image Registration District: Halstead Sub-registration District: Hedingham ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 61 Piece: 1721 Folio: 107 Page Number: 9 Household Members: Name Age Alfred Gardener 28 Ellen Gardener 31 Stanley P Gardener 6 Grayham L Gardener 3
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 1721; Folio: 107; Page: 9
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Chris Ho :)
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26 Nov 2013 18:17 |
SAVEALL, ELIJAH GEORGE Rank:Civilian Date of Death:30/10/1940 Age:71 Regiment/Service:Civilian War Dead Reporting Authority CHELMSFORD, RURAL DISTRICT at Maylin, Skinners Lane, Great Baddow.
(not sure if relating)
http://www.cwgc.org/
Chris :)
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/records_office/thread/820449
(old query above from google, someone looking for Ellen Percival!)
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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26 Nov 2013 18:17 |
Annie!!
1901 England Census about Elizah Saveall Name: Elizah Saveall [Elijah George Saveall] Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Annie Saveall Gender: Male Where born: Galleywood, Essex, England Civil Parish: Great Baddow Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael and All Angels County/Island: Essex Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
View Image Registration District: Chelmsford Sub-registration District: Great Baddow ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 40 Piece: 1675 Folio: 17 Page Number: 6 Household Members: Name Age Elizah Saveall 32 Annie Saveall 25 Flossie Saveall 4 Bertie Saveall 1 Annie Saveall 2 Months Richard Saveall 35 brother
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 1675; Folio: 17; Page: 6.
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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26 Nov 2013 18:19 |
1911 England Census about Elijah Saveall Name: Elijah Saveall Age in 1911: 42 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Galleywood, Essex Civil Parish: Great Baddow County/Island: Essex Country: England Street Address: Near Post Office, Galleywood Common Marital Status: Married Occupation: Labourer Electric station Registration District: Chelmsford Registration District Number: 194 Sub-registration District: Great Baddow ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Household Schedule Number: 103 Piece: 10089 Household Members: Name Age Elijah Saveall 42 Annie Saveall 35 Bertie Saveall 11 Annie Saveall 10
Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 10089; Schedule Number: 103.
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JoyLouise
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26 Nov 2013 18:24 |
Many thanks everyone.
Annie is my Grandfather's cousin.
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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26 Nov 2013 18:26 |
did she remarry?
Name: Annie E Saveall Spouse Surname: Ockendon Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1925 Registration District: Chelmsford Inferred County: Essex Volume Number: 4a Page Number: 785 Find Spouse:Reginald J L Ockendon
EDIT was probably her daughter
Name: Annie Ellen Saveall Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1901 Registration District: Chelmsford Inferred County: Essex Volume: 4a Page: 687
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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26 Nov 2013 18:30 |
Name: Reginald John L Ockendon Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1901 Registration District: Chelmsford Inferred County: Essex Volume: 4a Page: 645
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JoyLouise
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26 Nov 2013 18:37 |
Spotted the 1925 marriage Shirley - in fact there were two in 1925 and the other surname was Hodge.
I was wondering whether it was Annie marrying again or whether it was her daughter - or whether it was both of them.
I'm now going to look at deaths of Annie Ockendon and Annie Hodge to see if any tie up with birth years.
Many thanks.
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Catherine
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26 Nov 2013 19:52 |
This would seem to be Annie before marrying:-
1881 England Census about Ann Linjie Name: Ann Linjie Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876 Relationship to Head: Daughter Father: William Linjie Mother: Alice Linjie Gender: Female Where born: Cockfield, Durham, England Civil Parish: Althorne County/Island: Essex Country: England Street Address: Wilson New Cottage
Occupation: Scholar Registration District: Maldon Sub-registration District: Southminster ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1773 Folio: 68 Page Number: 13 Household Members: Name Age William Linjie 29 - 1852 born: Mayland, Essex Alice Linjie 19 - born: Latchingdon, Essex Ann Linjie 5
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You'll need to buy marriage cert. to William, of course, to confirm if father's name matches.
marriage of parents:- England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915 about William Linge Name: William Linge Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1872 Registration District: Maldon Inferred County: Essex Volume Number: 4a Page Number: 375 Records on Page: Name John Goodwin Maria Griggs xxxx William Linge xxxx Eliza Woodly
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England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 about Eliza Linge Name: Eliza Linge Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855 Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1879 Age at Death: 24 Registration District: Maldon Inferred County: Essex Volume: 4a Page: 175
.....................So Alice is not Annie's mother. .....................................................
looks to be living with:-
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Alice Jane Copsey Name: Alice Jane Copsey Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1862 Registration District: Maldon Inferred County: Essex Volume: 4a Page: 1879
...............in 1881. Can't see a marriage yet.
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JoyLouise
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26 Nov 2013 20:04 |
Got the Eliza and two marriages for William Linge (2nd Alice Jane Copsey) but try as I might I can't find a death of an Annie Ockenden or Annie Hodge that fits with the two marriages in 1925. I think one must be the mother and one the daughter.
Since the Hodge marriage is listed as Annie E Saveall I suspect that this is the daughter because mother Annie did not have a name beginning with the initial E.
However, I've searched births for both Ockenden and Hodge to 1930 and come up with noting that would give me the mother's maiden name. I am not expecting to find Linge as a maiden name because I think Annie may be about past her child-bearing years; but I can't come up with a Saveall maiden name either.
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JoyLouise
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26 Nov 2013 20:12 |
Alice is definitely not Annie's mother. Annie (Ada Alice Annie Linge b 1875 at County Durham) is the daughter of William and first wife Eliza.
I'll plug away at the Saveall marriages.
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Catherine
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26 Nov 2013 20:20 |
Have you seen this bith?
Rather unusual:-
Births Mar 1930 (>99%)
Lodge Joy F O Saveall Chelmsford 4a see D37 (Lodge / Hodge?)
Ockendon Joy F O Saveall Chelmsford 4a 1059
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Registered again in 1937?
Births Dec 1937 (>99%) Lodge Joy F O Saveall Chelmsford 4a 917
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MarieCeleste
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26 Nov 2013 20:21 |
This looks like Annie's probate, it would have helped if you'd mentioned her full name at the outset because I nearly ignored it!
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 Name: Ada Alice Annie Saveall Probate Date: 2 Apr 1959 Death Date: 23 Feb 1959 Death Place: Essex, England Registry: London, England
Widow of 50 Skinner's Lane, Galleywood - died St John's Hospital Chelmsford. Probate to Bertie Saveall, engineers storeman. Effects £413 6s 7d
(There is a son Bertie on the 1911) ...................................................................................................................
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Two versions of her burial:
Parish Record Collection - Burial Record
Forenames: Annie Surname: Saveall MI Ref: 447 Year text: 1959 Year: 1959 Location: Galleywood Church: St Michael & All Angels Denomination: Anglican County: Essex Country: England CD volume: Central Essex - Volume 1 Record source: Essex Memorial Inscriptions Data provider: Essex Society for Family History
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Parish Record Collection - Burial Record
Forenames: Annie Surname: Saveall MI Ref: C16 Year text: 1959 Year: 1959 Comments: Book of Remembrance Location: Galleywood Church: St Michael & All Angels Denomination: Anglican County: Essex Country: England CD volume: Central Essex - Volume 1 Record source: Essex Memorial Inscriptions Data provider: Essex Society for Family History ....................................................................................................................
Her death record:
England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Ada A A Saveall Birth Date: abt 1876 Date of Registration: Mar 1959 Age at Death: 83 Registration District: Chelmsford Inferred County: Essex Volume: 4a Page: 613
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MarieCeleste
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26 Nov 2013 20:32 |
Headline: GALLEYWOOD FLOWER SHOW. Publication:Essex Newsman Publication date:Saturday 27 July 1912
Annie Saveall's name is mentioned in the list of third prizewinners in the flower show.
ADDED - Her husband Elijah gets a few mentions about growing vegetables and also for riotous behaviour in pubs
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MarieCeleste
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26 Nov 2013 20:50 |
There's a very sad article in the Chelmsford Chronicle of Friday 02 June 1944 about Annie and Elijah's granddaughter Josephine Adelaide Joyce Saveall, she died unexpectedly aged 21 on 21 May 1944 and was buried on the day she was to have been married to her fiance Gunner T Hawkins.
She was the eldest daughter of Mr & Mrs B Saveall of 15 Hill Rise Cottages and she worked at Woolworths.
Other Savealls mentioned in the list of mourners are grandmother Mrs A Saveall and her sister Mrs L Gregory.
It mentions that her grandfather Elijah was killed by enemy action in 1940.
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JoyLouise
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27 Nov 2013 07:55 |
Thank you, yet again, Marie Celeste.
I've very much appreciated your help with my many queries and it's enabled me to 'grow' a much-enlightened family tree.
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JoyLouise
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27 Nov 2013 08:24 |
I've just checked the birth of Lodge/Ockendon that you mentioned, Catherine.
I think you may be right and it ought to be Hodge. The Lodge information has been handwritten at the bottom of the page (with a handwritten version already crossed out once). It looks as though the Registrar/person who entered the details was unsure.
Marie Celeste, £413 in 1959 would have bought a house I believe - and no inheritance tax to pay!
I love the fact that Annie and Elijah were into growing things - and also that Elijah was known for his riotous behaviour in pubs! It's lovely to have snippets of family 'doings' as it 'beefs up' the picture one forms about people.
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MarieCeleste
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27 Nov 2013 08:30 |
Just to clarify the Ockendon/Lodge marriage to Annie E Saveall (Annie Linge's daughter) - Shirley has posted Reginald John Ockendon's 1901 birth above.
It appears that he was born before his mother Ruth's marriage later in 1901 so was correctly recorded as Ockendon. He is recorded in the 1911 under his mother's married name but originally married Annie in his "legal" name of Ockendon. at some point he has changed his name to Lodge, hence the amendment to his marriage record (I think the page 784a on the second registration of the marriage signifies that it's an amendment to the first registration, there is a handwritten entry on the original image of the index). This also explains why the daughter's 1930 birth has been re-registered.
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Sep 1901 Lodge Peter Chelmsford 4a 997 Ockendon Ruth Elizabeth Chelmsford 4a 997
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LODGE, Peter Head Married M 36 1875 Brickmaker Galleywood Essex LODGE, Ruth Wife Married10 years F 30 1881 Gt Baddow Essex LODGE, Reginald Son M 9 1902 Galleywood Essex
RG number: RG14 Piece: 10089 Reference: RG14PN10089 RG78PN531 RD194 SD4 ED9 SN108 Registration District: Chelmsford Sub District: Great Baddow Enumeration District: 9 Parish: Great Baddow
Address: Post Office Road Brick House County: Essex
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