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doesn't help with finding Ralph's birth though! just another surname to add to the mix
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Name: Ann Keen
Baptism Date: 14 Sep 1842
Parish: Manchester, St Mary, St Denys and St George
Father's Name: William Mossop Keen, Occ. Servant
Mother's Name: Haniet Keen
Archive Roll: 765
Name: John Keen
Baptism Date: 23 Sep 1840
Parish: Manchester, St Mary, St Denys and St George
Father's Name: William Keen, Servant
Mother's Name: Harriet Keen
Archive Roll: 764
Name: William Mossop Keen, Bachelor of Sring Garden
Age: Full
Marriage Date: 24 Nov 1839
Parish: Manchester, St Peter
Parish as it Appears: Manchester
Father's Name: John Keen, Servant
Spouse's Name: Harriet Seonion <<< looks like Senior on image, Widow
Spouse's Father's Name: John Smith, Farmer
Reference Number: GB127.M403/4/3
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1841
Name: Harriet Keen
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Gender: Female
Civil Parish: Manchester
Hundred: Manchester
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
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Registration District: Chorlton
Sub-registration District: Chorlton upon Medlock
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 580
Book: 1
Folio: 37
Page Number: 20
Household Members:
Name Age
Wm Mosrit Keen 25, Waiter
Harriet Keen 25
John Keen 9 Mo
Lucy Skipworth 15
1861
Name: Harriat Keen
Age: 54
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1807
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Sutterton, Lincolnshire, England
Civil Parish: Salford
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
Town: Salford
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
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Registration District: Salford
Sub-registration District: Greengate
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 267
Piece: 2911
Folio: 26
Page Number: 45
Household Members:
Name Age
Harriat Keen 54 Married Dressmaker
Annie Keen 18 Tailoress
Deaths Sep 1877 Keen William Mossop 63 W. Derby 8b 353
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Deaths Dec 1867 Keen Harriet 62 Manchester 8d 295
Name: William Mossop Keen
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 29 Jan 1815
Christening Place: GRASMERE,WESTMORLAND,ENGLAND
Father's Name: John Keen
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: P01682-1
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 97368
Reference ID:
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In case any one of the helpers is still watching
Further update, To-day spoke with friend, and she says, that Ralph's daughter (sadly now passed on)was also unable to find birth certificate
The family story was , that he was "left on the doorstep" or may have been the son of the grandather.The ones who new the facts would never say!
Need Miss Marple on it!!
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I wonder then, if William was his father if he was registered under his mother's name but without a christian name?
This is the only birth that fits with the DOB in Salford to an unmarried mother with no given name?
Births Jun 1914
Hardisty Male Hardisty Salford 8d 106
or one of these?
Name: Male Armstrong
Mother's Maiden Name: Armstrong
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1914
Registration District: Barrow-in-Furness
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8e
Page: 1425
Name: (Male) Dawe
Mother's Maiden Name: Dawe
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1914
Registration District: Burnley
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8e
Page: 267
Name: (Male) Hodgson
Mother's Maiden Name: Hodgson
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1914
Registration District: Preston
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8e
Page: 955
Perhaps you need to just wait until the 1921 census is released and hope that that will shed some light?
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rootgatherer
Interesting. Thanks for that.
I think in 8 years time I personally will be to old (if I am still around)
I am doing the tree, and will pass this thought on. Maybe she can get her grandchildren to follow it up, then
Thanks again for the help.
I guess in years to come, every one will know every thing about every one!! BIG Brother!
It's getting that way already, with supermarkets being able to see what one buys, and send cupons for discounts.
Pauline
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