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ErikaH

ErikaH Report 22 Nov 2013 14:07

You obviously didn't notice my posting of the Fernley man's birth record

Not that there need necessarily be any correlation between the given names and that by which he was known.

My late sister-in-law was officially named Irene........but was always known as Molly

brigid

brigid Report 22 Nov 2013 22:56

a GR member pm'ed me that the 4 hempstock boys were frederick ,sydney winter albert and jacky .
I assumed the Sydney W aged 1 with his grandad Seth was martha+ john winter's child.
The name Sydney didn't ring any bells with my friend tho she does remember Albert well and knows that 1 son went to WW1 underage married a lady called May both died of TB shortly afterward,
The other ...pushed a dray round Derby .



I was shown a lovely picture of the very elderly Martha + her 2nd husband "Jim"
with her sons Frederick and William and 4 grandchildren

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 23 Nov 2013 07:47

Baptism
County Lincolnshire
Place Stickney
Church St Luke
RegisterNumber 834
DateOfBirth 24 Jan 1890
BaptismDate 06 Apr 1890
Forename Sydney Winton
Sex M
FatherForename
MotherForename Alice Ann
FatherSurname
MotherSurname HEMPSTOCK
Abode Stickney
FatherOccupation
Notes Single woman

(from below link)

http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

Chris :)

(same day as Martha)
County Lincolnshire
Place Stickney
Church St Luke
RegisterNumber 271
MarriageDate 12 Nov 1888
GroomForename Fred
GroomSurname JOHNSON
GroomAge 21
GroomParish Stickney
GroomCondition Bachelor
GroomOccupation Bricklayer
GroomAbode Stickney
BrideForename Alice Ann
BrideSurname DAVISON
BrideAge 21
BrideParish Stickney
BrideCondition Spinster
BrideOccupation
BrideAbode Stickney
GroomFatherForename John
GroomFatherSurname JOHNSON
GroomFatherOccupation Butcher
BrideFatherForename Enoch
BrideFatherSurname DAVISON
BrideFatherOccupation Cottager
WitnessOneForename Thomas
WitnessOneSurname DAVISON
WitnessTwoForename Alice Ann
WitnessTwoSurname HEMPSTOCK
Notes married after banns: first witness made mark:

brigid

brigid Report 23 Nov 2013 08:54

Stuart; You're right Stanley Winter was not martha's son

The 4 living children on 1911 census for Martha Hempstock nee Davison would have been Albert b1893 ,John Henry (Jack )b 1903 Hempstock
William Thomas Davison b1883
Frederick Davison /Hempstock b1887

Chris;How lovely that there was a double wedding .

Reggie ; yes I did miss the birth ref for William J Fernley ; it would make him older than Martha and I must say on the photo (I'll ask my friend for an approx date) husband Jim looks more to be in his 70's when Martha was in her 90's with grown up grandchildren .The great grand-daughter thought he was a fair bit younger. .Maybe she had a 3rd husband

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 23 Nov 2013 09:30

Death

Name: FERNLEY, Martha
Registration district: Macclesfield
County: Cheshire
Year of registration: 1962
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at death:93
Volume no: 10A
Page no: 355

Flip

Flip Report 23 Nov 2013 10:21

If the death posted by Reggie is right, then it links to this probate record:

Martha Fernley
Probate Date: 5 Jul 1962
Death Date: 9 Jun 1962
Death Place: Macclesfield
Registry: Manchester, England

Martha, of Parkside Hospital, Macclesfield - widow. Probate granted to Gertrude Mary Stevenson, widow. £2149 11s.

brigid

brigid Report 23 Nov 2013 18:38

well that's intriguing ; I won't see the relative til next week
Martha being nearly 100 correlates but living in Macclesfield does not I was told she lived in Abbey St Derby til her death.
William's wife was called Gertrude but he was still living in the photo I saw (late 50's)so I don't know if she could have remarried to a Mr Stevenson ...does probate always go to family members ??

brigid

brigid Report 29 Nov 2013 18:30

martha.s ggdaughter is with me .
Martha Fernley is not the right 1 because her Martha died of shingles in her 90.s in The Manor Hospital Derby living in Abbey st

brigid

brigid Report 29 Nov 2013 18:32

she has a photo of martha,smother Jane nee Lanmin

We are very grateful for all the facts you have found so far

brigid

brigid Report 4 Dec 2013 16:17

We have continued this story with some members who don't like posting on threads .
when I have some time I will collate all information so far + add it to this story .
Soory for those of you who like instant replies .

brigid

brigid Report 25 Apr 2014 21:55

Just to let you all know my friend Janet + her brother John who wanted this information. are really pleased with all your findings
+as a result had email contact
with some of their relatives ; unfortunately neither have access to email at the moment .