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1891 census help please

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supercrutch

supercrutch Report 7 Nov 2013 21:50

Harry Death b 1881 in Wakefield.

I have him in 1901 and 1911 he is a coal miner.

Can anyone please locate him in 1891 so I can check his parents' names.

Many thanks.

Sue

Info I do have:

Birth
1881
Jan
Wakefield, Yorkshire, England



Residence
1901
Age: 20
Crigglestone, Yorkshire, England
Age: 20; Relation to Head of House: Boarder. Worker underground colliery.


Residence
1911
2 Apr
Age: 30
Ossett, Yorkshire-West Riding, England
Age: 30; Marital Status: Married; Relation to Head of House: Head. Coal Miner.



Death
1936
Mar
Age: 55
Wakefield, Yorkshire West Riding, England
Age: 55

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 7 Nov 2013 22:00

There is a family in the right area in 1891 John Thomas Death and Alice Death but no Harry with them

When and where did he marry ?

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 7 Nov 2013 22:01

??

1881 England Census
about Harry Death Name: Harry Death
Relationship to Head: Son
Father: John Death
Mother: Alice Death
Gender: Male
Where born: Sandal Magna, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Sandal Magna
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address: Clarion St Other Side
Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration District: Wakefield
Sub-registration District: Sandal
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4571
Folio: 142
Page Number: 43
Household Members: Name Age
John Death 24 (General Labourer)
Alice Death 21
Harry Death 1 month



patchem

patchem Report 7 Nov 2013 22:02

These are births for Deaths in Wakefield, and all but Harry and William show on the 1891 census:
Births Mar 1881
Death Harry Wakefield 9c 23
Births Sep 1883
DEATH Ethel Wakefield 9c 16
Births Dec 1884
Death William Wakefield 9c 46
Births Mar 1886
DEATH Florence Wakefield 9c 7
Births Sep 1888
DEATH Hannah Maria Wakefield 9c 17
Births Mar 1891
Death Elizabeth Wakefield 9c 19

But might just be coincidence of births:

1891 England Census
John Thomas Dauth [John Thomas Death]
Age: 36 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Alice Dauth
Gender: Male Where born: Wattisfield, Suffolk, England
Civil Parish: Sandal Magna Ecclesiastical parish: St Catherine
Town: Belle Vue County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England Registration District: Wakefield Sub-registration District: Sandal
ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Piece: 3743 Folio: 111 Page Number: 6
John Thomas Dauth 36
Alice Dauth 32
Ethel Dauth 7
Florence Dauth 5
Anne Maria Dauth 8
Elizabeth Dauth 2/12
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 3743; Folio: 111; Page: 6; GSU Roll: 6098853.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 7 Nov 2013 22:03

??


..West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910
about Harry Death Name: Harry Death
Parish: Sandal, St Catherine
Baptism Date: 20 Mar 1881
Father's Name: John James Death (Labourer)
Mother's Name: Alice Death

patchem

patchem Report 7 Nov 2013 22:03

Marriages Sep 1880
xxxDeath John Thomas Wakefield 9c 33
HEBDEN Fred Wakefield 9c 33
Hodgson Catherine Wakefield 9c 33
xxxSnowden Alice Wakefield 9c 33

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 7 Nov 2013 22:05

In theory he should be on 1881 census as registered in first qtr 1881

supercrutch

supercrutch Report 7 Nov 2013 22:06

Cor those answers were quick, thanks :-)

Marriages Dec 1901 (>99%)
DEATH Harry Wakefield 9c 144

The 1881 looks promising :-D

Thanks again now where is he in 1891?

supercrutch

supercrutch Report 7 Nov 2013 22:10

Thanks PH for the baptism record and the 1881 census :-D

There was one miss spelling on a later generation of Deathe

supercrutch

supercrutch Report 7 Nov 2013 22:14

So it looks likely that John and Alice were his parents, thanks to all for that. 1881 is sorted so I am left with the 1891 mystery :-(

Sue

Tom

Tom Report 7 Nov 2013 22:16


You might like to check the public tree section on Genes as there is this

Harry Death 1881 Wakefield West Yorks... No Angie

Tom

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 7 Nov 2013 22:20

Who is Angie?

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 7 Nov 2013 22:21

Struggling to find the 1891 at the moment!

Tom

Tom Report 7 Nov 2013 22:23

HI PricklyHolly

I assume she is the tree owner !!

Tom

supercrutch

supercrutch Report 7 Nov 2013 22:24

Thanks Tom, I'll have a look in a mo.

PH I have been struggling for 24 hours :-(

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 7 Nov 2013 22:32

Is this odd or just a coincidence??

On the 1881 census, Father John (General Labourer) age 24...born Wathsfield Suffolk.

Wife Alice...age 21....born Borstal Yorkshire.



..1891 England Census
about John Thomas Dauth Name: John Thomas Dauth
[John Thomas Death]
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Alice Dauth
Gender: Male
Where born: Wattisfield, Suffolk, England

Civil Parish: Sandal Magna
Ecclesiastical parish: St Catherine
Town: Belle Vue
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration District: Wakefield
Sub-registration District: Sandal
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3743
Folio: 111
Page Number: 6
Household Members: Name Age
John Thomas Dauth 36 (General Labourer)
Alice Dauth 32 ....Born Burstall Yorkshire
Ethel Dauth 7
Florence Dauth 5
Anne Maria Dauth 8
Elizabeth Dauth 2/12



supercrutch

supercrutch Report 7 Nov 2013 22:40

Oooer that seems a bit of a mix up! Borstal/Burstall but that fits in with the 1901 census........so where is Harry?

John T Death 47
Alice Death 41
Ethel Death 17
Florence Death 15
Hannah Death 12
Elizabeth Death 10
Emma Death 3

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 7 Nov 2013 22:45

Hmmmm!

My brain is in a muddle so i will check back on here tomorrow Sue.

Prickles. x

supercrutch

supercrutch Report 7 Nov 2013 22:47

Thanks for all your help, I'll keep looking and check back here tomorrow.

xx

mgnv

mgnv Report 8 Nov 2013 01:04

Using http://www.yorkshirebmd.org.uk/
Yorkshire Birth indexes for the years:
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
1881 DEATH Harry Sandal Wakefield SNOWDEN SAN/37/35
1883 DEATH Ethel Sandal Wakefield SNOWDEN SAN/42/30
1884 DEATH William Stanley Wakefield (NONE) STA/34/49
1885 DEATH Florence Sandal Wakefield SNOWDEN SAN/47/30
1888 DEATH Hannah Maria Sandal Wakefield SNOWDEN SAN/52/73
1891 DEATH Elizabeth Sandal Wakefield SNOWDEN SAN/57/76

Marriages Sep 1880 (>99%)
Death John Thomas Wakefield 9c 33
HEBDEN Fred Wakefield 9c 33
Hodgson Catherine Wakefield 9c 33
Snowden Alice Wakefield 9c 33

It's not clear to me that Wm is a sibling of all the others - he's the only one born in Stanley subdistrict, and he looks like he's illegitimate to me.