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Nancy, it means that her Social Security Number was issued before 1951.

William Clave's obit mentions children but they may be from his first marriage -you'll have to trace him back through the census to check.

It will be amongst the cuttings I send when I finish ploughing through some 200 articles (mainly trivia)

Thanks Gins, much appreciate. Its quiet frustrating, her death in 2006 gives her birth as 11 Sept 1907, that's nearly a hundred years old. But I'm not sure its her due to the name Gilbert, and wonder if it should have been Sivert. But having said that, her maiden name was Sivert but married name Clave. I have copied and pasted this from MarieCeleste 26 Oct 17:49 .... State (Year) SSN issued: Massachusetts (Before 1951) what does it mean by before 1951) ?

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Hi

I don't think you'll find marriage records online for that period?

Hi Guys

Can anyone find a marriage for Gladys Clave nee Sivert to a Gilbert?? sometime after 1963 when her husband died?? There is a death listed for her in Connecticut 2006 which says she is Gladys E Gilbert? Trying to work out if she really did marry a Gilbert or if her name has been transcribed wrong?

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Just had another look at the posts, it was no wonder I thought it was just the 2 , you share a poppy with Marie which is why I thought it was just the 2...Oh well, I suppose am in the dog house xxxx

Aww Gins, am so sorry!! I was rushing to watch X Factor, I should have been a bit more observant, I was skimming thru so quickly...Please please forgive me... Thank you, everyone has been sooo soo helpful...am I forgiven :-( :-(

I think there has been 'you three'

Never mind!

Nancy, just to be clear - the siblings I posted were for Ellen, not Gladys.

Gosh U2 have been busy bees.. Wow, well done thanks! its a lot to get my head around so will go thru it again.....I didn't find any siblings for Gladys so that's a bonus... I just wonder what happened to Gladys after her husband William died in 1963, but as you mentioned Marieceleste, perhaps I sould write to the last known address. Thanks U2 your both stars!!

Nancy <3 <3 <3 <3 <3

Greenwood should be ward 6, I think. :-)

To try to work out where they were in 1920:

U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989
Name: Axel R Sivert
Residence Year: 1919
Street Address: Greenwood near city line
Residence Place: Worcester, Massachusetts
Occupation: Blacksmith
Publication Title: Worcester, Massachusetts, City Directory, 1919

U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989
Name: Axel R Sivert
Residence Year: 1921
Street Address: 20 East Worcester Greenwood near city line
Residence Place: Worcester, Massachusetts
Occupation: Blacksmith
Publication Title: Worcester, Massachusetts, City Directory, 1921

When Ester returned from Sweden in 1921 she gave Ellen's address as Greenwood City Line, Worcester, Mass.

On Axel's WW1 draft he gives his address as 14 Hillside Street, Worcester, Mass.

On his naturalisation in 1906 he gives address as 173, Vernon Street, Worcester, Mass. That's the address Ester gives on her arrival in 1906 and on her arrival she gives their address as 159½ Vernon Street. So surely they MUST be somewhere in Vernon Street in 1910?

Sister Ester isn't with her sister in 1910:

1910 United States Federal Census

Name: Esther Stenholm
Age in 1910: 23
Birth Year: abt 1887
Birthplace: Sweden
Home in 1910: Brooklyn Ward 24, Kings, New York
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1906
Relation to Head of House: Servant
Marital Status: Single
Father's Birthplace: Sweden
Mother's Birthplace: Sweden

Household Members:
Name Age
Charles F Bandel 34
Martha M Bandel 35
Alma Olsen 26
Esther Stenholm 23

Nancy, you could always write to this address and see if anyone remembers Gladys Gilbert and knows anything about her:

U.S. Public Records Index, Volume 1 about Gladys E Gilbert
Name: Gladys E Gilbert
Birth Date: 11 Sep 1907
Phone Number: 632-7988
Address: 52 Missionary Rd # 104, Cromwell, CT, 06416-2170 (1993)

Seeing as her SSN was issued Mass. it's a fair chance to be her:

U.S., Social Security Death Index, 1935-Current
Name: Gladys E. Gilbert
Last Residence: 06416 Cromwell, Middlesex, Connecticut
Born: 11 Sep 1907
Died: 21 Feb 2006
State (Year) SSN issued: Massachusetts (Before 1951)

So we still have not got the family in 1910 or 1920?

I did try, but nothing obviously correct.

Re: the Gladys Ahlin that Gins mentioned on the 1910 census - I think that would be this child:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11076-110813-32?cc=1536925&wc=11695108

Gladis Alin, "Massachusetts, Births, 1841-1915"
Name: Gladis Alin
Event Type: Birth
Event Date: 04 Apr 1906
Event Place: Worcester, Worcester, Massachusetts
Father's Name:
Mother's Name: Anna Alin

Youngest sister arriving:

Boston, Passenger and Crew Lists, 1820-1954

Name: Ruth N Stenholm
Gender: Female
Ethnic Background: Norwegian - No! Swedish
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Age: 19
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Saxonia
Arrival Date: 10 May 1907
Port of Arrival: Boston, Massachusetts
Friend's Name: Ellen Severs - sister in Worcester, Mass
Last Residence: Sweden

On this one Ester is travelling with her sister Martha Maria, age 18 (looks like she's gone back to fetch her over as it confirms Ester lived in USA 1906-1913)

Boston, Passenger and Crew Lists, 1820-1954

Name: Ester E Stenholm
Gender: Female
Ethnic Background: Norwegian
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Birth Place: Tidaholm, Sweden
Age: 25
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Laconia
Arrival Date: 9 Oct 1913
Port of Arrival: Boston, Massachusetts
Friend's Name: Ellen Sievert - sister, of 159½ Vernon Street, Worcester, Mass
Last Residence: United States of America

Their nok in Sweden is mother Caroline Stenholm, Kungsvagen 28, Tidaholm.

EDIT: Ester also made return trips in 1921 & 1923, same contact details both times.

Ellen's sister Ester's first visit to USA:

Boston, Passenger and Crew Lists, 1820-1954 about Ester Stenholm
Name: Ester Stenholm
Gender: Female
Ethnic Background: Norwegian - Sweden on image
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Age: 18
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Cymric
Arrival Date: 20 May 1906
Port of Arrival: Boston, Massachusetts
Sister's Name: Ellen Sivert of 173 Vernon Street, Worcester, Mass
Last Residence: Sweden

She's a servant.

This is Axel's sister going to him:

Boston, Passenger and Crew Lists, 1820-1954
Name: Anna Erikson
Gender: Female
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Age: 20
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Ivernia
Arrival Date: 10 Jun 1903
Port of Arrival: Boston, Massachusetts
Friend's Name: Axel Sivert
Last Residence: Gothenburg

Although her surname is Erikson she says she's going to her brother Axel Sivert at 48 Perry Avenue, Worcester, Mass. She's a servant.

She's travelling with a friend Hannah Anderson (24), a cook.