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MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 19 Mar 2016 16:15

For reference:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/military_chat/thread/1358735?jump=1358735

Karrie

Karrie Report 24 Oct 2013 17:59

Would some kind soul do a 1920 - 1926 electoral roll search please. David Fitzgerald and James Fitzgerald living at 3 Princes Court Bethnal Green. I'd like to know if they were both single and who else lived at that address.
manythanks.

Karrie

Karrie Report 23 Oct 2013 15:54

Again, Many thanks

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Oct 2013 23:21

Try their 14-day free trial - and remember to cancel your payment details before the 14 days are up, unless you want to pay a subscription.

Once you've logged in, click "Search" at the top of the page, then "Search all records" from the drop-down list.
Enter the details of one of the family, and the tree entry should appear at the top of the search results.

The tree lists only some of John & Mary's children - Annie, John, Ellen, Mary, Isabella, Michael and Sarah.
So It's no help with David, and James.
But you could contact the tree owner - EllenHarper93

Karrie

Karrie Report 22 Oct 2013 23:06

Thank you - no worries. You say the info is on an Ancestry tree - should I join Ancestry to see this tree for myself do you think?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Oct 2013 23:03

Re Michael's death:
sorry, my mistake. The tree doesn't have anything on Michael after 1891.

I was confusing him with his nephew Michael, John's son - per the tree.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Oct 2013 23:00

???

Deaths Jun 1893 (>99%)

Fitzgerald Mary Ann 7 Mile End 1c 367

Karrie

Karrie Report 22 Oct 2013 22:57

The John and Sarah tree tallies with some death cards I have, names, ages and siblings. Thank you. Michael would have been 111 years old - is this right or a typo ????

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Oct 2013 22:53

Marriages Jun 1915 (>99%)
Fitzgerald Isabella Newman Whitechapel 1c 525
Newman Henry G Fitzgerald Whitechapel 1c 525

(per the tree on Ancestry)
Marriage to Henry George NEWMAN
1915 5 Apr Age: 27
Christ Church with St Mary and St Stephen, Spitalfields, London

Henry 25 Carman resided 3 Flower and Dean Street, father Thomas(dec). Isabella 26 Hay Sorter resided 33 Lamb Street, father John (dec) Labourer. Witnesses William NEWMAN and Margaret HARPER


Children:

James NEWMAN
1920 –
Isabella NEWMAN
1921 –
David NEWMAN
1924 – 2002
John Thomas NEWMAN
1927 – 2004
Marie NEWMAN
1930 –


Deaths Jun 1952
NEWMAN Isabella 64 Bethnal G. 5c 135

Karrie

Karrie Report 22 Oct 2013 22:51

Ann Norah married in 1900.
Eliza married in 1913
Ellen married in 1903
Sarah married in 1912
Isabella married in 1915
Nothing on Mary Ann after 1881 census
Not sure about the boys yet apart from David in the Army.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Oct 2013 22:48

The same tree says Michael died in 1992, but doesn't say where.

[EDIT: No, sorry, that's his nephew - John's son]

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Oct 2013 22:42

A tree on Ancestry says this is John in 1911:


1911 England Census about John Fitzgerald
Name: John Fitzgerald
Age in 1911: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: London, United Kingdom
Civil Parish: Liberty of Old Artillery Ground
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 5 Sandys Row, Room 8
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: FRUIT PORTER
Registration District: Whitechapel
Registration District Number: 18
Sub-registration District: Spitalfields
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Piece: 1468
Household Members:
Name Age
John Fitzgerald 31
Sarah Fitzgerald 29 - nee Gannon
Henry Fitzgerald 6
Ann Norah Fitzgerald 2
Michael Fitzgerald 0
John Fitzgerald 5


Marriages Mar 1904 (>99%)
Fitzgerald John Whitechapel 1c 277
Gannon Sarah Whitechapel 1c 277

It also says he died in Stepney (no date)

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 22 Oct 2013 22:39

Just to summerize. The known children are

Mary Ann b. 1876
Ann N b. 1877
John b. 1879
Michael b. 1881
Ellen b. 1884
Isabella b. 1888
Sarah b. 1890
Eliza b. 1892
James b. 1893
David b. 1896


Except that's 10 children! But only 7 of the above are living in 1911. Sarah and Bella are obviously the two unmarried ones but who are the five that are married?

Karrie

Karrie Report 22 Oct 2013 22:37

John & Mary's children were : Mary Ann, Ann Norah, John, Michael, Ellen, Isabella, Sarah, Eliza, James and David and in 1911 they were in Princes Court, Bethnal Green.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 22 Oct 2013 22:31

On that 1911 Mary is Married. Had been married for 36 years, 9 children born, 7 living and 2 had died. It also very helpfully says that 5 of the 7 living are married. So have you worked out who the 7 living are and which 2 died please?

Karrie

Karrie Report 22 Oct 2013 22:27

Thank you so much ArgyllGran. Can you see if any of the other brothers joined up?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Oct 2013 22:23

David's in the army in 1916.

British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920 about David Fitzgerald
Name: David Fitzgerald
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Age at enlistment: 20
Residence: 3 Princes Court, B G
Document Year: 1916
Regimental Number: 5693
Regiment Name: Durham Light Infantry
Number of images: 8


Address is the same as mother and sisters in 1911:


1911 England Census about Sarah Fitzgerald
Name: Sarah Fitzgerald
Age in 1911: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Civil Parish: Bethnal Green
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 3 Princes Court, Bethnal Green
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: SORTER
Registration District: Bethnal Green
Registration District Number: 17
Sub-registration District: Bethnal Green South West
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Piece: 1444
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Fitzgerald 53 - 9 children, 2 deceased.
Bella Fitzgerald 23 - bon bon maker
Sarah Fitzgerald 21

Karrie

Karrie Report 22 Oct 2013 22:21

Thanks for trying - any idea what I can try next?

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 22 Oct 2013 22:20

Sorry not seeing any of them in 1911

Karrie

Karrie Report 22 Oct 2013 22:11

Thanks Mike, but don't think this is the right David, wrong area and family members.