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9 Feb 2018 19:34 |
A BIG THANK YOU to Erika H, ArgyllGran and Chris No.
I had heard a story of children who had been mistreated. !!! How sad. I am looking for a close friend, I am not related to any of these families,. But I still feel emotion when I read what happened.
Thanks Sally
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Chris Ho :)
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9 Feb 2018 17:50 |
Below also relating...
Deaths Jun 1900 (>99%) --------------------------------------------------- Shepherd Cecil 0 Devonport 5b 255
Chris :)
25 June 1900 - Western Morning News - Plymouth, Devon, England
...death of Cecil Shepherd, aged two months, son of Joseph Shepherd, photographer, 20. Brooklyn Terrace...
30 January 1912 - Western Daily Mercury. - Plymouth, Devon, England
Plymouth Parents Sent To Prison. ...when Joseph Shepherd, photographer’s canvasser, and his wife Ann, who lived at 26, Castle-street, were summoned for neglecting their six children under sixteen years of age...
(a family of ten persons occupied two very objectionable rooms and slept in two beds...in one bed defendants and three of their younger children, in the other were a girl seventeen her brother over sixteen and three other children, whose ages ranged from thirteen to nine years... youngest child aged sixteen months was 7lbs under weight, when admitted to the Workhouse on January 17th...Baby was described as a picture of misery...)
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/
(above for Newspapers, also Find My Past, and Genes. Subscription needed)
Joseph Shepherd 1871 1912 Plymouth Plymouth Prison Register - Male Prisoners (Find My Past)
(Neglecting his Children. One Month. occ. Photographer)
Edits (another School Record, says, From Workhouse)
Dorothy Shepherd 1895 1903 Ford Board School Devonport Admissions
(probably more, FMP quite good for Devon!)
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Chris Ho :)
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9 Feb 2018 17:01 |
(right you are AG, will have to 'dig' a bit more later on!)
Chris :)
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ArgyllGran
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9 Feb 2018 16:58 |
Not that one, I'm afraid, Chris:
Marriages Sep 1881 (>99%) MOON Mary Wells 5c 791 Sheppard Egbert Wells 5c 791
William Sheppard in the 1901 England Census Name: William Sheppard Age: 4 Estimated birth year: abt 1897 Relation to Head: Son Gender: Male Father: Egbert Sheppard Mother: Mary Sheppard Birth Place: Wells, Somerset, England Civil Parish: Wells St Cuthbert Out Ecclesiastical parish: St Cuthbert and St Thomas County/Island: Somerset Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Wells Sub-registration district: Wells ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2315 Folio: 40 Page Number: 22 Household schedule number: 135 Household Members: Name Age Egbert Sheppard 47 Mary Sheppard 46 Winefred Sheppard 16 Francis Sheppard 14 Emily Sheppard 12 Ada Sheppard 8 Frederick Sheppard 6 William Sheppard 4 Beatrice Sheppard 3
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9 Feb 2018 16:40 |
Saw below...(goes with 1901 posted above)
Chris :)
National School Admission Registers & Log-Books 1870-1914 Plymouth, Devon, England (Find My Past)
Shepherd Wm Jas 1896 — 1908
(Charles Boys School) (says, Born 12th July 1896. Father, Joseph. Address, 33, Chudleigh Road. Also, a Joseph, Birth --98)
Birth SHEPPARD, WILLIAM JAMES (MOON) GRO Reference: 1896 S Quarter in WELLS Volume 05C Page 465
(one above?)
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ErikaH
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9 Feb 2018 14:16 |
There is no birth for a William Shepherd (or a phonetic equivalent) in Bridgwater district between 1877 and 1907
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ArgyllGran
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9 Feb 2018 13:30 |
This could be William in 1911, now giving YOB as 1895:
William Shepherd in the 1911 England Census Name: William Shepherd Age in 1911: 16 Estimated birth year: abt 1895 Relation to Head: Lodger Gender: Male Birth Place: Bridgwater, Somerset Civil Parish: Bristol County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street address: No 4 Gloucester Lane, St Judes, Bristol Marital Status: Single Occupation: Errand Boy Registration district: Bristol Registration District Number: 319 Sub-registration district: St Philip and St Jacob ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Household schedule number: 42 Piece: 15013
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ArgyllGran
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9 Feb 2018 13:24 |
I don't see the birth of any William James Shepherd which would fit with the DOB given in 1939.
And still not the birth of William, son of Joseph the photographer.
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ErikaH
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9 Feb 2018 13:02 |
What was William's age when he married? And his occupation?
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Sally
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9 Feb 2018 12:51 |
OH YES.!!!!!!
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ArgyllGran
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9 Feb 2018 11:42 |
The addiction takes over!
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Sally
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9 Feb 2018 11:28 |
Thank you again. :-) I have been looking and looking but can't find them on 1911. I should be working, but when you get a bit of info ..... Well you know what it is like, you have to keep searching. !!!!! Sally
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9 Feb 2018 11:22 |
Marriage for Dorothy:
Marriages Jun 1917 (>99%) Passmore Charles F Shepherd Plymouth 5b 440 Shepherd Dorothy G Passmore Plymouth 5b 440
And her death:
Deaths Sep 1973 (>99%) PASSMORE DOROTHY GERTRUDE 27MR1895 NEWTON A 7A 1352
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ArgyllGran
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9 Feb 2018 11:13 |
The child Joseph's birth:
SHEPHERD, JOSEPH ROWLAND mms BOYES GRO Reference: 1898 M Quarter in BRIDGWATER Volume 05C Page 342
I don't see William's birth so far.
Sally - I'm not saying for sure that this is the right family - it just fits in some respects!
I haven't found them in 1911 yet.
EDIT:
Young Joseph's death:
Deaths Jun 1972 (>99%) SHEPHERD Joseph Rowland 12Fe1898 Surrey S E 5g 891
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Sally
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9 Feb 2018 11:01 |
Oh bless you Argyll gran. Thanks very much. Sally
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ArgyllGran
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9 Feb 2018 10:53 |
As a suggestion:
This Joseph Shepherd is a photographer, with a son William, born 1897 - a couple of years out from 1939 record, but 1939's not always accurate:
Joseph Shepherd in the 1901 England Census Name: Joseph Shepherd Age: 32 Estimated birth year: abt 1869 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Spouse: Annie Shepherd Birth Place: Leamington, Warwickshire, England Civil Parish: Saltash Ecclesiastical parish: Saltash Town: Saltash County/Island: Cornwall Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: St Germans Sub-registration district: Saltash ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2190 Folio: 10 Page Number: 11 Household schedule number: 78 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Shepherd 32 Annie Shepherd 33 Frank Shepherd 10 - Leamington, Warks. Dorothy Shepherd 6 - Bridgwater William Shepherd 4 - Bridgwater Joseph Shepherd 3
SHEPHERD, DOROTHY GERTRUDE mms BOYES GRO Reference: 1895 J Quarter in BRIDGWATER Volume 05C Page 350
SHEPHERD, FRANK EDWARD mms BOYES GRO Reference: 1892 M Quarter in WARWICK Volume 06D Page 593
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Sally
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9 Feb 2018 10:33 |
Hi, I now have the 2 wedding certs for Bessie Moss. She married a William Jordan in Newton Abbot Sept 15th 1928, they divorced. I can not find anything about the divorce, can anybody.? 2nd Wedding cert to a William James Shepherd - Okehampton, Devon 15th Oct 1942. The Father of William Shepherd is listed as Joseph, a photographer, I have looked to try and find Joseph/ William on the 1901 / 1911 census,. Can't find them, can anyone help please.? I have found William Shepherd dob July 31st 1895 with his first wife in Plymouth 1939 register. Any help with the families would be great. Many thanks Sally
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Sally
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16 Oct 2013 16:44 |
Thanks Maddie, I couldn't think of anything apart from a first marriage, I will have a look to see if William Jordan died. Regards Sally :-)
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Maddie
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16 Oct 2013 16:32 |
was she married before or is her maiden name Jordan ? there is a marriage for bessie moss to william jordan in 1928
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Maddie
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16 Oct 2013 16:30 |
from FMP
MarriageFinder™: William J Shepherd married Bessie Jordan [?]
Name: SHEPHERD, William J
Registration district: [?] Okehampton
County: Devon
Year of registration: 1942
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's last name Moss Or Jordan
Volume no: [?] 5B
Page no: [?] 901 View the original image
Name: JORDAN, Bessie
Registration district: Okehampton
County: Devon
Year of registration: 1942
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's last name: Shepherd
Volume no: 5B
Page no: 90
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