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Hi, I still need help. !!! UPDATE- I do have wedding certs !!!!! Feb 2018
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Oct 2013.
Firstly, yes I have been looking for info, but I need a kind person to give me a bit of help !!!!!!
I have been looking for the marriage of a William J Shepherd to a Bessie Moss OR Jordon, the children have Moss on their birth details, so why has freebmd and Ancestry got either name?
The marriage took place in Oakhampton, Devonshire in Dec Q 1942.

Any help would be great.
Thanks
Sally

from FMP

MarriageFinder™: William J Shepherd married Bessie Jordan [?]

Name: SHEPHERD, William J

Registration district: [?] Okehampton

County: Devon

Year of registration: 1942

Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec

Spouse's last name Moss Or Jordan

Volume no: [?] 5B

Page no: [?] 901
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Name: JORDAN, Bessie

Registration district: Okehampton

County: Devon

Year of registration: 1942

Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec

Spouse's last name: Shepherd

Volume no: 5B

Page no: 90

was she married before or is her maiden name Jordan ?
there is a marriage for bessie moss to william jordan in 1928

Thanks Maddie,
I couldn't think of anything apart from a first marriage, I will have a look to see if William Jordan died.
Regards
Sally :-)

Hi,
I now have the 2 wedding certs for Bessie Moss.
She married a William Jordan in Newton Abbot Sept 15th 1928, they divorced. I can not find anything about the divorce, can anybody.?
2nd Wedding cert to a William James Shepherd - Okehampton, Devon 15th Oct 1942.
The Father of William Shepherd is listed as Joseph, a photographer, I have looked to try and find Joseph/ William on the 1901 / 1911 census,. Can't find them, can anyone help please.?
I have found William Shepherd dob July 31st 1895 with his first wife in Plymouth 1939 register.
Any help with the families would be great.
Many thanks
Sally

As a suggestion:

This Joseph Shepherd is a photographer, with a son William, born 1897 - a couple of years out from 1939 record, but 1939's not always accurate:


Joseph Shepherd
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Joseph Shepherd
Age: 32
Estimated birth year: abt 1869
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Annie Shepherd
Birth Place: Leamington, Warwickshire, England
Civil Parish: Saltash
Ecclesiastical parish: Saltash
Town: Saltash
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
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Registration district: St Germans
Sub-registration district: Saltash
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2190
Folio: 10
Page Number: 11
Household schedule number: 78
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Shepherd 32
Annie Shepherd 33
Frank Shepherd 10 - Leamington, Warks.
Dorothy Shepherd 6 - Bridgwater
William Shepherd 4 - Bridgwater
Joseph Shepherd 3


SHEPHERD, DOROTHY GERTRUDE mms BOYES
GRO Reference: 1895 J Quarter in BRIDGWATER Volume 05C Page 350


SHEPHERD, FRANK EDWARD mms BOYES
GRO Reference: 1892 M Quarter in WARWICK Volume 06D Page 593

Oh bless you Argyll gran.
Thanks very much.
Sally

The child Joseph's birth:

SHEPHERD, JOSEPH ROWLAND mms BOYES
GRO Reference: 1898 M Quarter in BRIDGWATER Volume 05C Page 342

I don't see William's birth so far.

Sally - I'm not saying for sure that this is the right family - it just fits in some respects!

I haven't found them in 1911 yet.


EDIT:

Young Joseph's death:

Deaths Jun 1972 (>99%)
SHEPHERD Joseph Rowland 12Fe1898 Surrey S E 5g 891

Marriage for Dorothy:

Marriages Jun 1917 (>99%)
Passmore Charles F Shepherd Plymouth 5b 440
Shepherd Dorothy G Passmore Plymouth 5b 440


And her death:

Deaths Sep 1973 (>99%)
PASSMORE DOROTHY GERTRUDE 27MR1895 NEWTON A 7A 1352

Thank you again. :-)
I have been looking and looking but can't find them on 1911.
I should be working, but when you get a bit of info ..... Well you know what it is like, you have to keep searching. !!!!!
Sally

The addiction takes over!

OH YES.!!!!!!

What was William's age when he married? And his occupation?

I don't see the birth of any William James Shepherd which would fit with the DOB given in 1939.

And still not the birth of William, son of Joseph the photographer.

This could be William in 1911, now giving YOB as 1895:

William Shepherd
in the 1911 England Census
Name: William Shepherd
Age in 1911: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1895
Relation to Head: Lodger
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Bridgwater, Somerset
Civil Parish: Bristol
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street address: No 4 Gloucester Lane, St Judes, Bristol
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Errand Boy
Registration district: Bristol
Registration District Number: 319
Sub-registration district: St Philip and St Jacob
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Household schedule number: 42
Piece: 15013

There is no birth for a William Shepherd (or a phonetic equivalent) in Bridgwater district between 1877 and 1907

Saw below...(goes with 1901 posted above)

Chris :)

National School Admission Registers & Log-Books 1870-1914 Plymouth, Devon, England (Find My Past)

Shepherd Wm Jas 1896 — 1908

(Charles Boys School)
(says, Born 12th July 1896. Father, Joseph. Address, 33, Chudleigh Road. Also, a Joseph, Birth --98)


Birth
SHEPPARD, WILLIAM JAMES (MOON)
GRO Reference: 1896 S Quarter in WELLS Volume 05C Page 465

(one above?)

Not that one, I'm afraid, Chris:

Marriages Sep 1881 (>99%)
MOON Mary Wells 5c 791
Sheppard Egbert Wells 5c 791

William Sheppard
in the 1901 England Census
Name: William Sheppard
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1897
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Father: Egbert Sheppard
Mother: Mary Sheppard
Birth Place: Wells, Somerset, England
Civil Parish: Wells St Cuthbert Out
Ecclesiastical parish: St Cuthbert and St Thomas
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
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Registration district: Wells
Sub-registration district: Wells
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2315
Folio: 40
Page Number: 22
Household schedule number: 135
Household Members:
Name Age
Egbert Sheppard 47
Mary Sheppard 46
Winefred Sheppard 16
Francis Sheppard 14
Emily Sheppard 12
Ada Sheppard 8
Frederick Sheppard 6
William Sheppard 4
Beatrice Sheppard 3

(right you are AG, will have to 'dig' a bit more later on!)

Chris :)

Below also relating...

Deaths Jun 1900 (>99%)
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Shepherd Cecil 0 Devonport 5b 255

Chris :)

25 June 1900 - Western Morning News - Plymouth, Devon, England

...death of Cecil Shepherd, aged two months, son of Joseph Shepherd, photographer, 20. Brooklyn Terrace...


30 January 1912 - Western Daily Mercury. - Plymouth, Devon, England

Plymouth Parents Sent To Prison.
...when Joseph Shepherd, photographer’s canvasser, and his wife Ann, who lived at 26, Castle-street, were summoned for neglecting their six children under sixteen years of age...

(a family of ten persons occupied two very objectionable rooms and slept in two beds...in one bed defendants and three of their younger children, in the other were a girl seventeen her brother over sixteen and three other children, whose ages ranged from thirteen to nine years... youngest child aged sixteen months was 7lbs under weight, when admitted to the Workhouse on January 17th...Baby was described as a picture of misery...)


https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/

(above for Newspapers, also Find My Past, and Genes. Subscription needed)


Joseph Shepherd 1871 1912 Plymouth Plymouth Prison Register - Male Prisoners (Find My Past)

(Neglecting his Children. One Month. occ. Photographer)


Edits (another School Record, says, From Workhouse)

Dorothy Shepherd 1895 1903 Ford Board School Devonport Admissions


(probably more, FMP quite good for Devon!)