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14 Sep 2014 19:05 |
Hi Tammy Emily & Frederick fostered/adopted/looked after my husbands grandmother and was at her birth ... are you a Townsend ? We have been trying to find out about my husbands grandmothers mother for a while so will be interested to know what you know about the family Regards Sue
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patchem
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14 Sep 2014 17:50 |
Welcome to the boards, Tammy.
You can send a message to Sue by clicking on her name, that way you will be able to find out what else she has discovered.
Good Luck
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Tammy
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14 Sep 2014 17:39 |
Does anyone have an update on this please? My great grandparents were Emily and Fredrick Townsend and my grandmother used to say that her parents fostered children which fits in with what's been said on here. Thanks
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Sue
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16 Oct 2013 18:30 |
thanks to all for your help
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16 Oct 2013 09:42 |
Catherine Sorry the address was 20a Fenchurch Street Folkestone the home of Emily Townsend who was present at the birth !!! and who Doris lived with til she got married
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Chris Ho :)
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16 Oct 2013 09:02 |
Baptism (Find My Past) Day:5 Month:Feb Year:1905 Forename(s):Doris Emily Surname:Fuller Father's Forename(s): Mother's Forename(s):Ethel Louise Mother's Surname: Birth Day:25 Birth Month:Nov Birth Year:1904 Place:Folkestone, SS Mary & Eanswith County:Kent Archive Reference:U3/88/1/11 Year Range:1900-1915 Record source:Canterbury Baptisms - Transcripts Data provider:Canterbury Cathedral Archives (abode as, 20a Fenchurch Street)
Chris :)
(notes Residence on below Marriage for Frederick, 20a Fenchurch Street, for Emily, 24, Fenchurch Street)
Day:27 Month:May Year:1900 Groom's Forename(s):Frederick Charles Groom's Surname:Townsend Groom's Age:22 Groom's Parish: Bride's Forename(s):Emily Elizabeth Bride's Surname:Bliss Bride's Age:20 Bride's Parish: Groom's Father's Forename(s):William Groom's Father's Surname:Townsend Bride's Father's Forename(s):Abraham Bride's Father's Surname:Bliss Page:136 Place:Folkestone, SS Mary & Eanswith County:Kent
1901 TOWNSEND, Frederick C Head Married M 24 1877 (Mariner) Sawston, Cambridgeshire TOWNSEND, Emily E Wife Married F 21 1880 Folkestone, Kent Piece: 846 Folio: 88 Page: 30 Registration District: Elham Civil Parish: Folkestone Municipal Borough: Address: 24, Gt Fenchurch Street, Folkestone County: Kent
1901 (20a) VALENTINE, Elizabeth Head Widow F 68 1833 Laundress Dover, Kent Piece: 846 Folio: 88 Page: 30 Registration District: Elham Civil Parish: Folkestone Municipal Borough: Address: 20a, Gt Fenchurch Street, Folkestone County: Kent
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ArgyllGran
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15 Oct 2013 23:17 |
Deaths Sep 1925 (>99%) Fuller Emily A 73 Chertsey 2a 73
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15 Oct 2013 23:15 |
1911 England Census about Emily Anne Fuller Name: Emily Anne Fuller Age in 1911: 57 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Female Birth Place: Gosport, Hampshire, England Civil Parish: Walton Upon Thames County/Island: Surrey Country: England Street Address: Cambridge Road, Walton On Thames Marital Status: Widowed Occupation: Laundress Registration District: Chertsey Registration District Number: 32 Sub-registration District: Walton ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Household Schedule Number: 247 Piece: 2984 Household Members: Name Age Emily Anne Fuller 57 Evelyn Noton Fuller 22 Gladys Emly Grace Goodenough 12 - grand-daughter Harold Alfred Carr Goodenough 5 - grandson
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ArgyllGran
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15 Oct 2013 23:13 |
Continuring with speculation re Emily & Harry;
Deaths Sep 1891 (>99%) Fuller Harry 46 Chertsey 2a 25
Walton on Thames is in Chertsey reg district.
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Catherine
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15 Oct 2013 23:09 |
Another possible child?:-
Births Sep 1911 (>99%) Roehll Ethel H Fuller Wandsworth 1d 1320
The district Wandsworth spans the boundaries of the counties of Greater London, London and Surrey
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ArgyllGran
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15 Oct 2013 23:07 |
If Emily Ann was Ethel's nmother:
1901 England Census about Emily Fuller Name: Emily Fuller Age: 48 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Gosport, Hampshire, England Civil Parish: Walton on Thames Ecclesiastical parish: Walton on Thames St Mary Town: Walton on Thames County/Island: Surrey Country: England Street Address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration District: Chertsey Sub-registration District: Walton ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 131 Piece: 587 Folio: 42 Page Number: 22 Household Members: Name Age Emily Fuller 48 William Fuller 18 Florrie Fuller 14 Evelyn Fuller 12
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Catherine
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15 Oct 2013 23:00 |
She may have gone to stay with relatives when she gave birth to Doris. What was the address she gave on birth certicate?
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ArgyllGran
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15 Oct 2013 22:54 |
???? (EDIT: Or maybe not - see above)
Deaths Jun 1887 (>99%) Fuller Emily Ann 48 Brighton 2b 122
and maybe Ethel's brother??? Deaths Mar 1881 (>99%) Fuller Harry 0 Rye 2b 3
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ArgyllGran
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15 Oct 2013 22:48 |
Just maybe Ethel's parents??
Marriages Dec 1872 (>99%) Fuller Harry Portsea 2b 740
Richardson Emily Ann Portsea 2b 740
EDIT: Well, maybe not, in view of this census record. I would have assumed they had died, leaving Ethel with her aunt, but apparently not. (Maybe Ethel wasn't Harry's):
1891 England Census about Emily J Fuller Name: Emily J Fuller Age: 38 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Harry Fuller Gender: Female Where born: Gosport, Hampshire, England Civil Parish: Walton Ecclesiastical parish: Walton Town: Walton County/Island: Surrey Country: England Street Address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration District: Chertsey Sub-registration District: Walton ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 550 Folio: 30 Page Number: 14 Household Members: Name Age Harry Fuller 48 Emily J Fuller 38 - I know the middle initial's different, but YOB, POB, and husband all fit. Kate A Fuller 12 Maud G Fuller 11 Mabel O Fuller 10 Wm Hy Fuller 8 Florrie C Fuller 5 Evelina N Fuller 1
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PricklyHolly
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15 Oct 2013 22:47 |
West Wittering is a small village and civil parish, on the Manhood Peninsula, in the Chichester district of West Sussex.
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England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Ethel Louise Fuller Name: Ethel Louise Fuller Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1877 Registration District: Westhampnett Inferred County: Sussex Volume: 2b Page: 343
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ArgyllGran
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15 Oct 2013 22:43 |
Marriages Sep 1871 Lamming Samuel Portsea 2b 740
Richardson Grace Portsea 2b 740
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15 Oct 2013 22:40 |
???? West Wittering is in Westhampnett reg district,as in birth posted on page 1:
1881 England Census about Ethel Fuller Name: Ethel Fuller Age: 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877 Relationship to Head: Niece Gender: Female Where born: West Wittering, Sussex, England Civil Parish: Portsmouth County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Street Address: 59 Broad St Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Scholar Registration District: Portsea Island Sub-registration District: Portsmouth Town ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1150 Folio: 7 Page Number: 9 Household Members: Name Age Samuel Lamming 40 Grace Lamming 30 - born Gosport, Hants. Grace Lamming 9 Alice Lamming 7 Emily Lamming 5 Ada Lamming 2 George Lamming Ethel Fuller 4
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ArgyllGran
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15 Oct 2013 22:36 |
Poor Consuelo!
Re Ethel - There was time for her to have been promoted from laundrymaid to chambermaid between 1901 and 1904 when she became pregnant (one of those male servants at Blenheim, maybe?).
Or maybe she had to leave Blenheim, and got another position.
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PricklyHolly
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15 Oct 2013 22:35 |
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1891 England Census about Ethel Fuller Name: Ethel Fuller Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Chichester, Sussex, England Civil Parish: Walton Ecclesiastical parish: Walton Town: Walton County/Island: Surrey Country: England Street Address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration District: Chertsey Sub-registration District: Walton ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 550 Folio: 4 Page Number: 1 Household Members: Name Age Thomas J C McCowan 55 Florence L McCowan 28 Emily McCowan 21 Annie Williams 25 Ellen Daly 20 Ethel Fuller 14 (Under (Dom) Housemaid)
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Rambling
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15 Oct 2013 22:29 |
Interesting to read about Consuelo Marlborough
"Consuelo Vanderbilt was married at St. Thomas Episcopal Church, New York City, New York, on 6 November 1895, to Charles Spencer-Churchill, 9th Duke of Marlborough (1871–1934).[15] They had two sons, John Albert William Spencer-Churchill, Marquess of Blandford (who became 10th Duke of Marlborough) and Lord Ivor Spencer-Churchill.[16]"
"Consuelo’s marriage was particularly unhappy. Blackmailed by her social-climbing mother into giving up the man she loved in favour of the duke, she was horrified when, on her honeymoon, the duke told her that he ‘never wanted to marry her either’. He was in love with someone else, but needed Consuelo’s fortune to keep Blenheim going. Consuelo did her duty and produced two sons, ‘an heir and a spare’, but the couple were never happy and began to live apart as soon as they decently could. They were eventually divorced in 1921. "
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