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Rambling

Rambling Report 15 Oct 2013 21:43

If it is the one that married I think they went to USA, but i don't have access to look at birth place

U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989
SCHOOLS, DIRECTORIES & CHURCH HISTORIESView Image

NAME: Otto W Roehill
SPOUSE: Ethel L Roehill <<<<
RESIDENCE: date - city, Florida, USA

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 15 Oct 2013 21:46


1911 England Census about Ethel Roehll
Name: Ethel Roehll
Age in 1911: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Chichester, Chester, England (Image says Sussex, Chichester)
Civil Parish: Wandsworth
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 4 Bellamy Street, Balham S W
Marital Status: Married
Registration District: Wandsworth
Registration District Number: 26
Sub-registration District: Streatham
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Piece: 2302
Household Members:
Name Age
Otto Roehll 35
Ethel Roehll 33
Grace Roehll 1
William Webb 25
James Carruthers 72

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 15 Oct 2013 21:48


Florida, Divorce Index, 1927-2001 about Ethel Louise Roehll
Name: Ethel Louise Roehll
Gender: Female
Spouse's Name: Otto Roehll
Divorce Date: 1943
County: Dade
Certificate Number: 4882

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 15 Oct 2013 21:49


Florida, Naturalization Records, 1847-1995 about Ethel Louise Roehll
Name: Ethel Louise Roehll
Birth Date: 9 Mar 1877 <<<<<<<<<<<<<
Birth Place: Chichester, England
Age: 59
Spouse's Name: William Otto Roehll
Marriage Date: 2 Dec 1909
Marriage Place: London, Ontario, Canada
Naturalization Date: 12 Jun 1936
Naturalization Place: Miami, Florida, USA
Doc Type: Petition
Petition Number: 2192
District Court Location: Miami, Florida

Rambling

Rambling Report 15 Oct 2013 21:55

well the birth date matches with the birth mentioned before?

Births Jun 1877 (>99%)
FULLER Ethel Louise Westhampnett 2b 343

Catherine

Catherine Report 15 Oct 2013 22:00

I wonder?

would fit with marriag to Otto Roehill :-

UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960 about Ethel Roehill
Name: Ethel Roehill
Gender: Female
Age: 48
Birth Date: abt 1877
Departure Date: 25 Sep 1925
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Destination Port: Quebec, Canada
Ship Name: Doric
Search Ship Database: Search the 'Doric' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: White Star Dominion Line
Official Number: 147215
Master: S Bolton

..............also date of birth would fit.


Address given is 153 Shaftesbury Avenue, London
Travelling with:- Grace Roehill aged 15yrs

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 15 Oct 2013 22:01

UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
about Grace Roehill Name: Grace Roehill
Gender: Female
Age: 15
Birth Date: abt 1910
Departure Date: 25 Sep 1925
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Destination Port: Quebec, Canada
Ship Name: Doric
Search Ship Database: Search the 'Doric' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: White Star Dominion Line
Official Number: 147215
Master: S Bolton

Travelling with Ethel Roehill 48......Housewife...153 Shaftesbury Avenue

Country of which citizen or subject......Germany

Country of intended furure permanent residence......USA

Sue

Sue Report 15 Oct 2013 22:02

It certainly all marries up, and have looked into those in our search but cant tie up the details with Folkestone

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 15 Oct 2013 22:03

Wow!! Can this be her working at Blenheim for the Spencer Churchills??


1901 England Census about Ethel Fuller
Name: Ethel Fuller
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation: Servant (Laundrymaid)
Gender: Female
Where born: Chester, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Blenheim
Ecclesiastical parish: Blenheim
Town: Blenheim
County/Island: Oxfordshire
Country: England

Street Address: Blenheim Palace
Registration District: Woodstock
Sub-registration District: Woodstock
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 154
Piece: 1391
Folio: 26
Page Number: 23
Household Members:
Name Age
Consuelo Marlborough 24
John E A W Spencer Churchill 3
Ivon C Spencer Churchill 2

Plus 35 servants, including Ethel.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 15 Oct 2013 22:04

There's not necessarily any reason for any of the details to tie up with Folkestone - she may just have gone there to give birth to her illegitimate daughter - maybe somewhere she wasn't known.

Sue

Sue Report 15 Oct 2013 22:18

it says on Doris's birth certificate that Ethel is a chambermaid (domestic)

Rambling

Rambling Report 15 Oct 2013 22:29

Interesting to read about Consuelo Marlborough

"Consuelo Vanderbilt was married at St. Thomas Episcopal Church, New York City, New York, on 6 November 1895, to Charles Spencer-Churchill, 9th Duke of Marlborough (1871–1934).[15] They had two sons, John Albert William Spencer-Churchill, Marquess of Blandford (who became 10th Duke of Marlborough) and Lord Ivor Spencer-Churchill.[16]"

"Consuelo’s marriage was particularly unhappy. Blackmailed by her social-climbing mother into giving up the man she loved in favour of the duke, she was horrified when, on her honeymoon, the duke told her that he ‘never wanted to marry her either’. He was in love with someone else, but needed Consuelo’s fortune to keep Blenheim going. Consuelo did her duty and produced two sons, ‘an heir and a spare’, but the couple were never happy and began to live apart as soon as they decently could. They were eventually divorced in 1921. "

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 15 Oct 2013 22:35

?????

1891 England Census
about Ethel Fuller Name: Ethel Fuller
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Chichester, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Walton
Ecclesiastical parish: Walton
Town: Walton
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration District: Chertsey
Sub-registration District: Walton
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 550
Folio: 4
Page Number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas J C McCowan 55
Florence L McCowan 28
Emily McCowan 21
Annie Williams 25
Ellen Daly 20
Ethel Fuller 14 (Under (Dom) Housemaid)



ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 15 Oct 2013 22:36

Poor Consuelo!

Re Ethel -
There was time for her to have been promoted from laundrymaid to chambermaid between 1901 and 1904 when she became pregnant (one of those male servants at Blenheim, maybe?).

Or maybe she had to leave Blenheim, and got another position.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 15 Oct 2013 22:40

???? West Wittering is in Westhampnett reg district,as in birth posted on page 1:


1881 England Census about Ethel Fuller
Name: Ethel Fuller
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relationship to Head: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: West Wittering, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Portsmouth
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street Address: 59 Broad St
Education:

Employment status:

View Image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration District: Portsea Island
Sub-registration District: Portsmouth Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1150
Folio: 7
Page Number: 9
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Lamming 40
Grace Lamming 30 - born Gosport, Hants.
Grace Lamming 9
Alice Lamming 7
Emily Lamming 5
Ada Lamming 2
George Lamming
Ethel Fuller 4

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 15 Oct 2013 22:43

Marriages Sep 1871
Lamming Samuel Portsea 2b 740

Richardson Grace Portsea 2b 740

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 15 Oct 2013 22:47

West Wittering is a small village and civil parish, on the Manhood Peninsula, in the Chichester district of West Sussex.

????

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Ethel Louise Fuller Name: Ethel Louise Fuller
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1877
Registration District: Westhampnett
Inferred County: Sussex
Volume: 2b
Page: 343

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 15 Oct 2013 22:48

Just maybe Ethel's parents??

Marriages Dec 1872 (>99%)
Fuller Harry Portsea 2b 740

Richardson Emily Ann Portsea 2b 740

EDIT:
Well, maybe not, in view of this census record. I would have assumed they had died, leaving Ethel with her aunt, but apparently not. (Maybe Ethel wasn't Harry's):

1891 England Census about Emily J Fuller
Name: Emily J Fuller
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Harry Fuller
Gender: Female
Where born: Gosport, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Walton
Ecclesiastical parish: Walton
Town: Walton
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View Image

Registration District: Chertsey
Sub-registration District: Walton
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 550
Folio: 30
Page Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
Harry Fuller 48
Emily J Fuller 38 - I know the middle initial's different, but YOB, POB, and husband all fit.
Kate A Fuller 12
Maud G Fuller 11
Mabel O Fuller 10
Wm Hy Fuller 8
Florrie C Fuller 5
Evelina N Fuller 1

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 15 Oct 2013 22:54

???? (EDIT: Or maybe not - see above)

Deaths Jun 1887 (>99%)
Fuller Emily Ann 48 Brighton 2b 122


and maybe Ethel's brother???
Deaths Mar 1881 (>99%)
Fuller Harry 0 Rye 2b 3

Catherine

Catherine Report 15 Oct 2013 23:00

She may have gone to stay with relatives when she gave birth to Doris. What was the address she gave on birth certicate?