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Cherilyn - thank you for all this information. It is most intriguing. I wish I could find some evidence of my William Addey's journey to Australia.

Lst but not least, there is also this little tidbit, adding a bit more mystery as I can't find any trace of Phoebe, nor a marriage between Wm & Phoebe

BIRTH
13229/1863
ADDEY FREDERICK W
[father] WILLIAM
[mother] PHOEBE
RYDE

DEATH
5795/1863
ADDEY FREDERICK
[father] WILLIAM
[mother] PHOEBE
RYDE

The story is just that Wm went to Australia - so he may have been in Victoria or another state, other than NSW?

Just to throw a spanner in the works there are two more deaths:

10662/1889
ADDY WILLIAM
AGE 60 YEARS DIED WOLLONGONG
WOLLONGONG
This may be the William who was having children with a wife named Isabella in Sydney 1857-73 (no marriage found in NSW). Isabella died in 1883. See also http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article108892800 (NLA Trove)

2977/1862
ADDY WILLIAM
UNKNOWN
DIED BURRANGONG
YOUNG
I wonder if this is the one who married Helen in Maitland, as they only seem to have had the one child, a David W ADDY in 1862 (b. Maitland). Young is a long way from Maitland tho.


Soooo the 1889 death fits the timeline and agewise...and the 1864 death might also be worth a punt, given parents names seem to match. Up to you really! You can use a transcription agent for NSW deaths, just Google :)

This may be the marriage of the Maitland convict William (or his son?)
1951/1860
ADDY WILLIAM
KEEFE HELEN
MAITLAND

Thanks Chris :-)

This is the NSW death posted earlier, gives parents names (from NSW BDMonline):
2323/1864
ADDY WILLIAM
[father] WILLIAM
[mother] MARY
PADDINGTON

This matches the parents names on the 1828 birth above that Beverley posted, which in turn fits the census info showing birthplace:
Name: William Addy
Event Type: Christening
Event Date: 10 Feb 1828
Event Place: St Peter's Church, Burnley, Lancashire, England
Gender: Male
Father's Name: William Addy
Mother's Name: Mary Addy

Note that funeral notice only invites 'friends', no family mentioned.
Friday 16 September 1864
ADDY.—The Friends of the deceased Mr. WILLIAM ADDY are invited to attend his funeral, to move from his late residence, at the Tollgate Randwick Road, THIS (Friday) AFTERNOON, at a quarter-past 3 o'clock. JAMES CURTIS, undertaker, 59, Hunter-street.

Zooming in on the death notice he was aged 33. So birth c1830. But newspapers were notoriously bad for errors on such things. So he could have been 35.

It is of course possible that William went to Australia as a free man in which case maybe one of the two NSW deaths is the convict and the other William.

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1198324

(have asked Cherilyn, from above link, if she can take a look here, in case anything else can be found)

Chris :)

Thanks for all your recent replies. I agree, I don't think convict William Addey can have been my man. It is difficult when I am not sure of birth details so do not know his age, other than he was over 21 when he married in 1851. I haven't found any census information that I can be sure of. There is nothing with both him and his wife Ann (nee Freeme) on, as he married after the 1851 census was taken. I'm not even sure he went to Australia, I just have a letter from the 1940s which relates a family story.
The following is the newspaper announcement I would like to know more about though.

The Sydney Morning Herald Wednesday 21st September 1864 page 7
Family Notices
ORIGINAL TEXT
ADDEY—September 14th, at his residence, the Toll-gate, Rand-
wick Road, after a long and painful illness, Mr. William Addey,
aged 33? years.
ADDY—September 14th, at his residence, at the Toll-gate, Rand-
wick Road, Mr. William Addy, aged 33? years

CORRECTED TEXT
ADDEY-September 14th, at his residence, the Toll-gate, Rand-
wick Road, after a long and painful illness, Mr, William Addey,
aged J3 years
ADDY-September 14th, at his residence, at the Toll-gate, Rand-
wick Road, Mr. William Addy, aged S3 years

I don't think that your man was the convict. The age just doesn't fit. As mentioned, nobody was transported aged 9.
Also consider how he would have been able to pay his fare back to the UK. Very few convicts were ever able to return.

The New South Wales death index shows two William Addey/Addys. One in 1862 and one in 1864.

Is this the William Addey (or Addy) I have been trying to trace?

Death announcement in The Sydney Morning Herald 21/09/1864:

WILLIAM ADDEY (also listed a second time but spelt ADDY) - died September 14th 1864 at Toll-gate, Randwick Road, (Sydney, Australia) after a long and painful illness aged ?33.

As a bit of background information, William's father (also William) spelt his surname ADDY and as far as I am aware he was the only child who took the spelling ADDEY. His siblings seem to have kept the ADDY format.

Does anyone have information about this person?

England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892 (Ancestry)

Name: William Addey
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1817
Date of Trial: 23 May 1836
Trial Year: 1836
Location of Trial: Surrey, England
Sentence: Transportation

Chris :)

(reference)

William Addey, one of 310 convicts transported on the Mangles, 18 March 1837
Convicted at: Surrey Quarter Session
Sentence term: 7 years
Ship: Mangles
Departure date: 18th March, 1837
Arrival date: 10th July, 1837
Place of arrival New South Wales

http://www.convictrecords.com.au/ships/mangles/1837

In 1851, William was 23. There is no way he could have been transported in 1837 aged 9.

Could be his baptism:

Name: William Addy
Event Type: Christening
Event Date: 10 Feb 1828
Event Place: St Peter's Church, Burnley, Lancashire, England
Gender: Male
Father's Name: William Addy
Mother's Name: Mary Addy

She seems to be at school. Her residence is 24 High Rd North

London, England, School Admissions and Discharges, 1840-1911

Name: Rosina Addy
Age: 9
Birth Date: abt 1852
School: St Paul's School
Borough: Westminster
Admission Date: 5 Aug 1861
Notes: Non-provided school (0420) (it is possible that LCC/EO/DIV02/STPAU6/AD is an emergency school established at Saint Paul's during the Second World War, see separate sheet)


Name: Rosina Addy
School: St Paul's School
Borough: Westminster
Admission Date: Jan 1862
Notes: Non-provided school (0420) (it is possible that LCC/EO/DIV02/STPAU6/AD is an emergency school established at Saint Paul's during the Second World War, see separate sheet)
Reference Number: LCC/EO/DIV02/STPAU4/AD/007


Poor girl dies just after this.

Name: Rosina Addy
Registration Year: 1862
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Westminster St Margaret
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1a
Page: 259
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We can now get a baptism for Rosa Addy. Her father was William, a labourer of 4 Middle Row. Same parish as the other children.


First name(s) ROSINA
Last name ADDY
Birth year 1851
Birth day 3
Birth month Jun
Baptism year 1857
Baptism day 25
Baptism month Jan
Parish All Saints, Ennismore Gardens, Knightsbridge
Father's first name(s) William
Mother's first name(s) Matilda
County Middlesex
Page 86
Record set Westminster Baptisms


The census found by BatmansDaughter.


1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Theydon Bois, Epping, Essex, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Duffield Head Married Male 31 1830 Farming Bailiff Great Holland, Essex, England
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Emma Duffield Wife Married Female 28 1833 - Great Clacton, Essex, England
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Emma Duffield Daughter - Female 4 1857 Scholar Theydon Bois, Essex, England
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Mary Ann Duffield Daughter - Female 3 1858 - Theydon Bois, Essex, England
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Hannah Duffield Daughter - Female 1 1860 - Theydon Bois, Essex, England
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Lucy Adderson Niece Unmarried Female 18 1843 Servant St Osyth, Essex, England
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>>Rosa Addy Boarder - Female 9 1852 - Knightsbridge, Middlesex, England


EDIT This is her family so not the family you are researching.



1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
4, Middle Row, St Margarets, Westminster, London, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Addy Head Married Male 42 1819 Labourer Westminster, Middlesex, England
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Matilda Addy Wife Married Female 42 1819 Labourer Wife Windsor, Berkshire, England
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William Addy Son Unmarried Male 17 1844 Labourer St Pancras, Middlesex, England
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Thomas Addy Son Unmarried Male 11 1850 - Westminster, Middlesex, England
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Samuel Addy Son Unmarried Male 4 1857 - Westminster, Middlesex, England
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Matilda Addy Daughter Unmarried Female 2 1859 - Westminster, Middlesex, England

William was a Farrier at Tocal near Maitland NSW Australia. He recieved his ticket of freedom in 1843, perhaps he returned to England?

Hi Geoff. Thanks for getting in touch. I had also found information about William Addey who was transported to Australia on The Mangles. However I discounted him because of the date. Unfortunately I have made no further progress in finding out what happened to him.

Can't be the same William Addey geof as he was still in the UK on the census after 1837

He married in 1851 and had chidren in the 1850,s

Dear Rosemary, my name is Geoff Goodwin from Walcha NSW Australia, A few years ago while metal detecting I found a small brass disc, its about the size of a pocket watch, It has an inscription on it which reads William Addey's Sundial Maitland, I believe and am almost 100% certain this belonged to your relative William Addey, he was transported to Australia in 1837 aboard the ship The Mangles and assigned to C&F Wilson at Tocal near Maitland NSW, I have copies of his transportation details and ticket of freedom certificate. He had tattoos on his left and right arms WAMA & JATA, Please reply regards Geoff.

Yes. I see what you mean. I'll see if I can find out more. There is a William Addey listed in the St Pancras area later in the 1800's but by then Ann was described as a Widow. If Rosa was his child it would explain a serious family disagreement!

On Williams marriage certificate to Ann Freeme he states his occupation as a Butler..... I would consider the 1851 census that I posted maybe him seeing as the occupation is the same.