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3 Oct 2013 22:16 |
Hi, I am trying to find the parents and siblings of John Percy S.Glover (don't know what the S stands for) b.AMJ 1869, many thanks
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3 Oct 2013 22:19 |
Have you looked for him on any census ?
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3 Oct 2013 22:20 |
Births Jun 1869 (>99%) GLOVER John Percy S Newcastle T. 10b 72
Name: John P T Glover Age: 1 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870 Relation: Son Father's Name: James Glover Mother's Name: Jane Ann Glover Gender: Male Where born: Newcastle Upon Tyne Civil Parish: St Andrew Ecclesiastical parish: Jesmond Town: Newcastle upon Tyne County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Registration District: Newcastle Upon Tyne Sub-registration District: St Andrew ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Household Schedule Number: 61 Piece: 5085 Folio: 46 Page Number: 14 Household Members: Name Age James Glover 27 Jane Ann Glover 25 John P T Glover 1 Alice M Glover 9 Months Margaret Cummins 15
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3 Oct 2013 22:20 |
John P S Glover in household of James Glover, "England and Wales Census, 1881" Name: John P S Glover Age (Original): 11 Gender: Male Birth Year: 1870 Birthplace: Newcastle On Tyne, Northumberland, England Relationship to Head of Household: Son Marital Status: Single Occupation: Scholar Address: 25 North View Event Place: Heaton, Northumberland, England Disability: Record Type: Household GS Film number: 1342224 Affiliate Publication Number: RG11 Piece/Folio: 5070 / 140 Page Number: 13
Household Gender Age Birthplace Head James Glover M 37 Felling, Durham, England Wife Jane A Glover F 34 Newcastle On Tyne, Northumberland, England Son John P S Glover M 11 Newcastle On Tyne, Northumberland, England Son William Glover M 7 Newcastle On Tyne, Northumberland, England Daughter Florence M Glover F 6 Newcastle On Tyne, Northumberland, England Daughter Annie M Glover F 3 Gosforth, Northumberland, England Daughter Elizabeth J Glover F 1 Newcastle On Tyne, Northumberland, England Father In Law Peregin Henzell Stead M 66 North Shields, Northumberland, England Mother In Law Jane Stead F 69 Newcastle On Tyne, Northumberland, England Servant Mary Dufour F 18 Newcastle On Tyne, Northumberland, England
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3 Oct 2013 22:21 |
To place him
Name: John Percy S Glover Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1869 Registration District: Newcastle upon Tyne Inferred County: Northumberland Volume: 10b Page: 72
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3 Oct 2013 22:24 |
1881 England Census about John P.S. Glover Name: John P.S. Glover [John P T Glover] Age: 11 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870 Relationship to Head: Son Father: James Glover Mother: Jane A. Glover Gender: Male Where born: Newcastle On Tyne, Northumberland, England Civil Parish: Heaton County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street Address: 25 North View Education:
Employment status:
View Image Occupation: Scholar Registration District: Newcastle Upon Tyne Sub-registration District: Byker ED, institution, or vessel: 34 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 5070 Folio: 140 Page Number: 13 Household Members: Name Age James Glover 37 Jane A. Glover 34 John P.S. Glover 11 William Glover 7 Florence M. Glover 6 Annie M. Glover 3 Elizabeth J. Glover 1 Peregin Henzell Stead 66 Jane Stead 69 Mary Dufour 18
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 5070; Folio: 140; Page: 13; GSU roll: 1342224.
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3 Oct 2013 22:24 |
Marriages Jun 1867 (>99%)
GLOVER James Newcastle T. 10b 16 Stead Jane Ann Newcastle T. 10b 16
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3 Oct 2013 22:27 |
Name: John P S Glover Birth Date: abt 1870 Date of Registration: Jun 1941 Age at Death: 71 Registration District: Tynemouth Inferred County: Northumberland Volume: 10b Page: 337
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3 Oct 2013 22:31 |
You searched for John Glover in Northumberland All 1911 England Census Results 1911 England Census about John Percy Glover Name: John Percy Glover Age in 1911: 42 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Newcastle-On-Tyne Yesmond Civil Parish: Broomley County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street Address: Sunny Crae Stocksfield Northumberland Marital Status: Married Occupation: Engineering Auchoner & Valuer Registration District: Hexham Registration District Number: 561 Sub-registration District: Bywell ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Piece: 30892 Household Members: Name Age John Percy Glover 42 Clara Glover 42 John Dennis Glover 1 Agnes May Lonsdale 21 servant Jane Sarah Shield 18 servant
Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 30892.
Married 3 years 1 child born
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3 Oct 2013 22:40 |
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Marriages Jun 1909 GLOVER John Wolverhampton 6b 1005 GRIFFITHS Clara Wolverhampton 6b 1005 PEARSON Sarah Jane Wolverhampton 6b 1005 WALTERS George William Wolverhampton 6b 1005
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4 Oct 2013 08:31 |
1891 shows another younger brother for him, JPS is not with his parents - is a boarder in Barrow in Furness, a marine engine fitter so probably working in the shipyard.
James Glover Age: 47 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Jane A Glover Gender: Male Where born: Felling, Durham, England Civil Parish: Heaton Ecclesiastical parish: St Silas Town: Newcastle upon Tyne County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration District: Newcastle Upon Tyne Sub-registration District: Byker ED, institution, or vessel: 38 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 4217 Folio: 118 Page Number: 16 Household Members: Name Age James Glover 47 Jane A Glover 44 Florence M Glover 16 Annie M Glover 12 Elizabeth J Glover 11 James H Glover 2 <<<
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4 Oct 2013 08:37 |
It looks like father James died in 1900, but Jane Ann lived to a ripe old age:
Jane Ann Glover Probate Date: 14 Feb 1933 Death Date: 26 Dec 1932 Death Place: Northumberland, England Registry: Newcastle-Upon-Tyne
Widow, of 11 Delaval Rd Whitley Bay. Probate to James Henry Glover, Buyer. £14 17s
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4 Oct 2013 08:44 |
Annie Glover Age: 53 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Newcastle, Northumberland, England Civil Parish: St Andrew Ecclesiastical parish: Jesmond Town: Newcastle on Tyne County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street Address:
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Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration District: Newcastle upon Tyne Sub-registration District: St Andrew ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 80 Piece: 4780 Folio: 137 Page Number: 13 Household Members: Name Age Annie Glover 53 (widow) Florence M Glover 25 James H Glover 12 Constance E Glover 27 (daughter in law) Gladys E Glover 2 (granddaughter) Catherine De Lucey 22 (visitor) By 1911 she is with Harry (James H). She is a widow, but crossed off the image it states married 44 years, 8 children born but only 5 still alive.
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4 Oct 2013 08:46 |
Jane Ann Stead Gender: Female Christening Date: 19 Apr 1846 Christening Place: Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England Father's Name: Peregrine Henzall Stead Mother's Name: Jane
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4 Oct 2013 09:25 |
Although John P is on 1911 census with Clara, it looks like he was married previously:
John Percy Glover (engineer) Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868 Age: 29 Spouse Name: Ellen Heaney Spouse Age: 29 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 5 Jun 1897 Parish: Hatcham Park All Saints Borough: Lewisham Father Name: James Glover (Clerk) Spouse Father Name: Peter Heaney Register Type: Parish Register
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4 Oct 2013 09:33 |
I think this is them in 1901:
Ellen Glover Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869 Relation: Boarder Gender: Female Where born: Milton, Kent, England Civil Parish: Moss Side Ecclesiastical parish: Moss Side Christchurch County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address:
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Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration District: Chorlton Sub-registration District: Hulme ED, institution, or vessel: 84 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 191 Piece: 3711 Folio: 144 Page Number: 32 Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Ingham 44 Dorothy I Ingham 13 Ernest Carter 29 Edith Carter 26 Lucie Carter 21 Percy G Glover 31 <<Percy S on image, Engineers manager, born Newcastle Ellen Glover 32 Mabel E Glover 9 Months <<born Urmston, Lancashire
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4 Oct 2013 10:22 |
Shirley, not sure that 1909 marriage is right - married 3 years on 1911 census, but wonder if they were actually married, it doesn't look like he was free to marry?
Think this could be the first wife & child in 1911:
Mabel Ellen Glover Age in 1911: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1901 Relation to Head: Daughter Gender: Female Birth Place: Armston (Urmston on image) Civil Parish: Charlton and Kidbrooke County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 71 Inverine Road, Charlton Occupation: SCHOOL Registration District: Woolwich Registration District Number: 30 Sub-registration District: Charlton ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Piece: 2853 Household Members: Name Age Ellen Glover 43 (Milton, Kent) Mabel Ellen Glover 10 Cecil Harry Glover 7 (Hearne Bay, Kent) Gerald Claude Glover 3 (ditto)
States Ellen married 14 years, had 4 children but 1 had died.
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4 Oct 2013 11:10 |
Ellen was still around in 1921, she wrote to the army for a reference for her son Cecil Harry.
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5 Oct 2013 14:25 |
Many thanks for the information, John P.S.Glover, was married before to a Louisa Jane Jeffries, they had a son who died as a baby, didn't know whether they had anymore children or whether he remarried or divorced .Many thanks again
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5 Oct 2013 14:51 |
Cumbria Birth indexes for the years: 1892 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference GLOVER Charles A C Barrow Cumbria Certificate Services JEFFRIES B/59/136
And the marriage:
Cumbria Marriage indexes for the years: 1891 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference JEFFRIES Louisa J GLOVER John P S St James, Barrow in Furness Cumbria Certificate Services C3/3/27
They didn't have any more children in Barrow, but there is no death showing for the son or Louisa in the Barrow records - so I would assume they moved away.
I'm local, so if you don't have their marriage cert I can check out the parish records for the details if you want. May confirm if his fathers name is the same as that given when he married Ellen Heaney
Incidently, the S stands for Stead - google his full name, there are newspaper articles about his business.
Added: when he married Ellen Heaney he stated he was a bachelor.
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