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5 Mar 2014 16:41 |
Elizabeth's 'husband' George Hemingway in census 1891 When she was 'married' with a single lodger James Fortune.
In this census George is also claiming to be married, and has son John G from census 1881 with him:
Address: 25 27 29, Cleaver Street, Blackburn County: Lancashire
PAYNE, Samuel Head Married M 60 1831 Labourer General Dorsetshire PAYNE, Sarah Wife Married F 51 1840 Domestic Servant London, Surrey KIRKHAM, Richard Lodger Married M 72 1819 Iron Moulder Chorley, Lancashire HINDLE, Thomas Lodger Single M 67 1824 General Labourer Blackburn, Lancashire HEMMINGWAY, George Lodger Married M 44 1847 Nail Maker Leeds, Yorkshire<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< HEMMINGWAY, John G Lodger Single M 11 1880 Scholar Leeds, Yorkshire<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< COTTON, Henry Lodger Widower M 55 1836 General Labourer Whittle Le Woods, Lancashire CARSON, Robert Lodger Single M 47 1844 General Labourer Darwen, Lancashire AYR, Patrick Lodger Married M 37 1854 General Labourer Ireland NEWELL, Patrick Lodger Single M 18 1873 Cotton Spinner Blackburn, Lancashire WELLS, John Lodger Single M 23 1868 Cotton Spinner Blackburn, Lancashire HANSON, George Lodger Single M 50 1841 Iron Dresser Stainland, Yorkshire GLAISTER, John Lodger Single M 37 1854 Nail Maker Abbey Town, Cumberland GLEN, Martin Lodger Single M 36 1855 General Labourer Ireland
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5 Mar 2014 08:59 |
Marriage of Ethel:
Name: Ethel Fortune Boulton Birth Year: abt 1896 Marriage or Bann Date: 6 Aug 1927 Parish: Silsden, St James Spouse's Name: Joseph Heater Spouse's Father's Name: Riley Heater
Father's name left blank. One witness was Thomas Fortune Boulton.
Marriage of Ivy:
Name: Ivy Fortune Boulton Birth Year: abt 1899 Age: 20 Marriage or Bann Date: 24 Dec 1919 Parish: Silsden, St James Spouse's Name: Isaac Webster Spouse's Father's Name: James Edward Webster
Again, no details for father given. One witness was Ethel Fortune Boulton.
Marriage of Hilda:
Name: Hilda Fortune Bolton Birth Year: abt 1891 Age: 20 Marriage or Bann Date: Oct 1911 Parish: Silsden, St James Spouse's Name: Amos Cockshott Spouse's Father's Name: John Cockshott
Again, no father's details given.
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5 Mar 2014 01:29 |
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Elijah with father Isaac (from marriage record) in census 1841:
Address: Butt Lane, Audley, Talk County: Staffordshire
BOULTON, Isaac M 35 1806 Staffordshire<<<<<<< BOULTON, Ann F 35 1806 Staffordshire BOULTON, Elijah M 15 1826 Staffordshire<<<<<<<< BOULTON, Enock M 10 1831 Staffordshire BOULTON, David M 7 1834 Staffordshire BOULTON, Eliza F 15 1826 Staffordshire BOULTON, Caroline F 5 1836 Staffordshire BOULTON, Charlotte F 3 1838 Staffordshire BOULTON, Susanna F 1 1840 Staffordshire LAWTON, Martha F 35 1806 Staffordshire LAWTON, Martha F 4 1837 Staffordshire LAWTON, Emmila F 1 1840 Staffordshire
Elijah's baptism?
Name: Elijah Boulton Gender: Male Christening Date: 18 Apr 1824 Christening Place: SAINT JAMES,AUDLEY,STAFFORD,ENGLAND Birth Date: Birthplace: Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: Isaac Boulton Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Ann Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C03771-1 System Origin: England-ODM GS Film number: 426480, 426481 Reference ID:
Marriage for Isaac and Ann???
Name: Isaac Boulton Birth Date: Birthplace: Age: Spouse's Name: Anne Sherratt Spouse's Birth Date: Spouse's Birthplace: Spouse's Age: Event Date: 04 Feb 1823 Event Place: Wolstanton,Stafford,England Father's Name: Mother's Name: Spouse's Father's Name: Spouse's Mother's Name: Race: Marital Status: Previous Wife's Name: Spouse's Race: Spouse's Marital Status: Spouse's Previous Husband's Name: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01003-1 System Origin: England-ODM GS Film number: 497355, 497356, 873648, 96896 Reference ID:
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5 Mar 2014 01:14 |
Is this Elizabeth in census 1861, with Boulton as her maiden name?
Note Elizabeth 'Hemmington's birthplace was' Talk-O'-Th'-Hill, Staffordshire, Bull Lane' in the 1891 census.
Address: Butt Lane, Talk Oth Hill County: Staffordshire<<<<<<<<<
BOULTON, Elijah Head Married M 37 1824 Miner Audley, Staffordshire BOULTON, Mary Ann Wife Married F 34 1827 ..., Staffordshire BOULTON, Eliza Daughter F 14 1847 Works In Silk Audley, Staffordshire BOULTON, Henry Son M 9 1852 ScholarAudley, Staffordshire BOULTON, Elizabeth Daughter F 6 1855 Scholar Audley, Staffordshire<<<<<<<<<<<<< BOULTON, Susannah Daughter F 4 1857 Scholar Audley, Staffordshire BOULTON, Alice Daughter F 2 1859 Scholar Audley, Staffordshire
So I think that Elizabeth nee Boulton was the mother of James Fortune's children, and that she had previously been in a relationship or marriage with George Hemmingway, and that though she reverted to using her maiden name of Boulton/Bolton, after the relationship with George ended for whatever reason, when she finally married James Fortune it was under the name of Elizabeth Hemmingway.
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Possible marriage for parents:
Name: Elijah Boulton<<<<<<<<<< Birth Date: Birthplace: Age: Spouse's Name: Mary Ann Durber<<<<<<<<<<< Spouse's Birth Date: Spouse's Birthplace: Spouse's Age: Event Date: 1846 Event Place: Wolstanton, Stafford, England Father's Name: Isaac Boulton Mother's Name: Spouse's Father's Name: Richard Durber Spouse's Mother's Name: Race: Marital Status: Previous Wife's Name: Spouse's Race: Spouse's Marital Status: Spouse's Previous Husband's Name: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M39391-2 System Origin: England-VR GS Film number: 1517617 Reference ID: 2:3GDVGG6
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5 Mar 2014 01:03 |
I think this might be Elizabeth as a married woman in census 1881, which may be why she couldn't marry James for so long.
However I can't find a Boulton/Bolton - Hemingway marriage yet.
Daur Sarah Ann here matched daur Sarah Ann 'Hemmington' in census 1891 posted previously.
Census 1881:
Address: York Square, Richmond County: Yorkshire (North riding)
HEMINGWAY, George Head Married M 34 1847 General Labourer Leeds, Yorkshire HEMINGWAY, Elizabeth Wife Married F 26 1855 Charwoman Congleton, Staffordshire HEMINGWAY, Sarah A Daughter Single F 3 1878 Scholar Staleybridge, Cheshire<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< HEMINGWAY, John G Son Single M 1 1880 Richmond, Yorkshire
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Baptism of daur Sarah Ann:
Name: Sarah Ann Hemingway Birth Date: 7 Jul 1877 Parish: Leeds, St Saviour Baptism Date: 13 Jan 1878 Father's Name: George Hemingway Mother's name: Elizabeth Hemingway
Father a nail maker
Births Dec 1879 Hemmingway John George Richmond, Y. 9d 653
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5 Mar 2014 00:42 |
Baptisms
Name: Ethel Fortune Bolton Birth Date: 11 Feb 1896 Parish: Silsden, St James Baptism Date: 9 Aug 1896 Father's Name: Bolton Mother's name: Elizabeth Bolton
Born Feb 11th 1896. No father's name or occupation given.
Name: Thomas Fortune Bolton Birth Date: 7 Apr 1896 Parish: Silsden, St James Baptism Date: 9 Aug 1896 Father's Name: Bolton Mother's name: Elizabeth Bolton
Birth date on image April 7 th 1894, not 1896 as given in the transcript. Again, only Elizabeth's name appears.
Name: Hilda Bolton Birth Date: 10 Mar 1892 Parish: Silsden, St James Baptism Date: 6 Apr 1892 Father's Name: Bolton Mother's name: Elizabeth Bolton
Born March 10th. Mother described as a spinster
Name: Ivy Bolton Birth Date: 24 Jun 1899 Parish: Silsden, St James Baptism Date: 23 Jul 1899 Father's Name: Bolton Mother's name: Elizabeth Jane Bolton
Born June 24th. In occupation it looks like the beginning of 'labour' has been crossed out and spinster substituted. No name of father given.
I'm not sure where the 'Elizabeth Jane comes from, as it is just Elizabeth on the image of the baptism register.
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5 Mar 2014 00:39 |
Children's birth records?
Name: Hilda Fortune Boulton Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1892 Registration district: Skipton Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding Volume: 9a Page: 35
Name: Thomas Fortune Boulton Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1894 Registration district: Skipton Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding Volume: 9a Page: 34
Name: Ethel Fortune Boulton Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1896 Registration district: Skipton Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding Volume: 9a Page: 38
Name: Ivy Fortune Boulton Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1899 Registration district: Skipton Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding Volume: 9a Page: 37
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5 Mar 2014 00:35 |
Elizabeth's death
West Yorkshire, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1985 Name: Elizabeth Fortune Birth Year: abt 1854 Parish: Silsden, St James Burial Date: 28 Aug 1933 Burial Age: 79
and James?
Name: James Fortune Birth Year: abt 1860 Parish: Silsden, St James Burial Date: 23 Jun 1925 Burial Age: 65
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5 Mar 2014 00:35 |
Hmmm,
James finally married Elizabeth Hemmingway......
Name: Elizabeth Hemmingway<<<<<<<<<< Spouse Surname: Fortune<<<<<<< Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1918 Registration district: Skipton Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding Volume Number: 9a Page Number: 74
Name: James Fortune<<<<<<<<<< Spouse Surname: Hemmingway<<<<<<<<<< Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1918 Registration district: Skipton Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding Volume Number: 9a Page Number: 74
My gut feeling is that Elizabeth Hemmingway and Elizabeth Bolton are the same woman, but I don't know why the two surnames.
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4 Mar 2014 23:59 |
Interestingly, in 1891 James is said to be married but boarding with an Elizabeth Hemmington.
Is it just co-incidence that Elizabeth Hemmington's son Charles H, is the same age as the Charles H Hemingway boarding with James Fortune and housekeeper Elizabeth Bolton in 1901?
EDIT It looks more like Hemingway than Hemmington on the 1891 image.
EDIT: Maybe just coincidence, but Elizabeth Bolton and Elizabeth Hemmington/Hemmingway are of an age, and both are born in Staffordshire, possibly the same place, as the 'But Lanc' on the 1911 for Elizabeth Bolton looks more like B??? Lane on the image, whichcould tally with the Bull Lane given for Elizabeth Hemmington/Hemmingway in census 1891. Are the two Elizabeths the same person? If so, why the two surnames?
Address: 4, Nicholson Place, Silsden County: Yorkshire (West Riding)
HEMMINGTON, Elizabeth Head Single F 36 1855 Charwoman Talk-O'-Th'-Hill, Staffordshire, Bull Lane HEMMINGTON, Sarah Ann Daughter Single F 13 1878 Spinner Cheshire HEMMINGTON, Alina Daughter Single F 6 1885 Scholar Silsden, Yorkshire HEMMINGTON, Charles H Son M 3 1888 Scholar Silsden, Yorkshire FORTUNE, James Boarder Married M 31 1860 Nailmaker Manchester, Lancashire DOYLE, John Boarder Single M 42 1849 Nailmaker Liverpool, Lancashire
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Baptism of Charles H Hemingway:
Name: Charles Henry Hemingway<<<<<<<<<<< Birth Date: 8 May 1887 Parish: Silsden, St James Baptism Date: 13 Jul 1887<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Mother's name: Elizabeth Hemingway<<<<<<<<<<<
Born may 8th. Father a nail maker.
and 'Alina' from 1881 census
Name: Alma Hemingway Birth Date: 5 Sep 1884 Parish: Silsden, St James Baptism Date: 31 Dec 1884 Father's Name: George Hemingway Mother's name: Elizabeth Hemingway
Born Sept 5th Father a nailmaker
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4 Mar 2014 23:47 |
As someone already posted earlier in this thread, the children living with James in this census, are likely to be the offspring of his' single' housekeeper, and are listed under her surname of Bolton.
Census 1901:
Address: 8, Chapel Street, Silsden County: Yorkshire (West riding)
FORTUNE, James Head Single M 42 1859 Nail Maker Manchester, Lancashire BOLTON, Elizabeth House Keeper Single F 47 1854 House Keeper Staffordshire HEMINGWAY, Charles H Boarder Single M 13 1888 Bobbin Mill Hand Silsden, Yorkshire BOLTON, Hilder F Boarder F 9 1892 Silsden, Yorkshire BOLTON, Thomas F Boarder M 6 1895 Silsden, Yorkshire BOLTON, Ethel F Boarder F 5 1896 Silsden, Yorkshire BOLTON, Ivy F Boarder F 1 1900 Silsden, Yorkshire
By census 1911 the same children are listed as James' children, and Sarah is listed as a widow:
Address: 36 St John Street Silsden Near Keighley County: Yorkshire (West riding)
FORTUNE, James Head Married M 51 1860 Nail Maker For Boots Silsden Yorkshire FORTUNE, Hilda Dahter Single F 19 1892 Drawer Yorks Silsden FORTUNE, Thomas Son Single M 17 1894 Moulder Iron Yorks Silsden FORTUNE, Ethel Daughter Single F 15 1896 Spinner Yorks Silsden BOLTON, Elizabeth Servant Widow F 56 1855 House Keeper North Staff But Lanc WOOD, Tom Boarder Single M 62 1849 Boot Nail Maker For Boots Yorks Silsden LAYCOCK, Martin Boarder Single M 52 1859 Boot Nail Maker For Boots Yorks Silsden FORTUNE, Ivy Daughter Single F 11 1900 Scolar Yorks Silsden
Note that in the 1901 census all four 'Bolton' children have the middle initial 'F', could that stand for 'Fortune', ie as surmised previously by others, James had at least four children by his housekeeper Sarah Bolton?
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4 Mar 2014 21:29 |
trying to find out who he had his children to and where was she from
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28 Aug 2013 18:41 |
:-(
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28 Aug 2013 13:23 |
It seems that she did.............but only to 'mark as answered'
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28 Aug 2013 13:05 |
Now, I wonder why she hasn't returned here? :-S
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28 Aug 2013 11:59 |
Thanks, Mary......so Pam has found her way back.
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28 Aug 2013 11:44 |
probably a couple of minutes ago.
Pam has new query now about Alice Potts which you have just answered Reggie
Maryb.
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28 Aug 2013 11:41 |
When was the 'answered' tag added?
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28 Aug 2013 09:17 |
Thanks, Cynthia.......although she did manage to return yesterday.
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28 Aug 2013 09:09 |
I've had a reply back from Pam and she is really struggling with getting back here. I am doing my best to help her, so let's hope she makes it back soon. :-D
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