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probably a couple of minutes ago.

Pam has new query now about Alice Potts which you have just answered Reggie

Maryb.

Thanks, Mary......so Pam has found her way back.

Now, I wonder why she hasn't returned here? :-S

It seems that she did.............but only to 'mark as answered'

:-(

trying to find out who he had his children to and where was she from

As someone already posted earlier in this thread, the children living with James in this census, are likely to be the offspring of his' single' housekeeper, and are listed under her surname of Bolton.

Census 1901:

Address: 8, Chapel Street, Silsden County: Yorkshire (West riding)

FORTUNE, James Head Single M 42 1859 Nail Maker
Manchester, Lancashire
BOLTON, Elizabeth House Keeper Single F 47 1854 House Keeper
Staffordshire
HEMINGWAY, Charles H Boarder Single M 13 1888 Bobbin Mill Hand
Silsden, Yorkshire
BOLTON, Hilder F Boarder F 9 1892 Silsden, Yorkshire
BOLTON, Thomas F Boarder M 6 1895 Silsden, Yorkshire
BOLTON, Ethel F Boarder F 5 1896 Silsden, Yorkshire
BOLTON, Ivy F Boarder F 1 1900 Silsden, Yorkshire

By census 1911 the same children are listed as James' children, and Sarah is listed as a widow:

Address: 36 St John Street Silsden Near Keighley County: Yorkshire (West riding)


FORTUNE, James Head Married M 51 1860 Nail Maker For Boots Silsden Yorkshire
FORTUNE, Hilda Dahter Single F 19 1892 Drawer Yorks Silsden
FORTUNE, Thomas Son Single M 17 1894 Moulder Iron Yorks Silsden
FORTUNE, Ethel Daughter Single F 15 1896 Spinner Yorks Silsden
BOLTON, Elizabeth Servant Widow F 56 1855 House Keeper North Staff But Lanc
WOOD, Tom Boarder Single M 62 1849 Boot Nail Maker For Boots Yorks Silsden
LAYCOCK, Martin Boarder Single M 52 1859 Boot Nail Maker For Boots Yorks Silsden
FORTUNE, Ivy Daughter Single F 11 1900 Scolar Yorks Silsden

Note that in the 1901 census all four 'Bolton' children have the middle initial 'F', could that stand for 'Fortune', ie as surmised previously by others, James had at least four children by his housekeeper Sarah Bolton?

Interestingly, in 1891 James is said to be married but boarding with an Elizabeth Hemmington.

Is it just co-incidence that Elizabeth Hemmington's son Charles H, is the same age as the Charles H Hemingway boarding with James Fortune and housekeeper Elizabeth Bolton in 1901?

EDIT It looks more like Hemingway than Hemmington on the 1891 image.

EDIT: Maybe just coincidence, but Elizabeth Bolton and Elizabeth Hemmington/Hemmingway are of an age, and both are born in Staffordshire, possibly the same place, as the 'But Lanc' on the 1911 for Elizabeth Bolton looks more like B??? Lane on the image, whichcould tally with the Bull Lane given for Elizabeth Hemmington/Hemmingway in census 1891. Are the two Elizabeths the same person? If so, why the two surnames?

Address: 4, Nicholson Place, Silsden County: Yorkshire (West Riding)

HEMMINGTON, Elizabeth Head Single F 36 1855 Charwoman
Talk-O'-Th'-Hill, Staffordshire, Bull Lane
HEMMINGTON, Sarah Ann Daughter Single F 13 1878 Spinner
Cheshire
HEMMINGTON, Alina Daughter Single F 6 1885 Scholar
Silsden, Yorkshire
HEMMINGTON, Charles H Son M 3 1888 Scholar
Silsden, Yorkshire
FORTUNE, James Boarder Married M 31 1860 Nailmaker
Manchester, Lancashire
DOYLE, John Boarder Single M 42 1849 Nailmaker
Liverpool, Lancashire

EDIT:

Baptism of Charles H Hemingway:

Name: Charles Henry Hemingway<<<<<<<<<<<
Birth Date: 8 May 1887
Parish: Silsden, St James
Baptism Date: 13 Jul 1887<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Mother's name: Elizabeth Hemingway<<<<<<<<<<<

Born may 8th. Father a nail maker.

and 'Alina' from 1881 census

Name: Alma Hemingway
Birth Date: 5 Sep 1884
Parish: Silsden, St James
Baptism Date: 31 Dec 1884
Father's Name: George Hemingway
Mother's name: Elizabeth Hemingway

Born Sept 5th Father a nailmaker

Hmmm,

James finally married Elizabeth Hemmingway......

Name: Elizabeth Hemmingway<<<<<<<<<<
Spouse Surname: Fortune<<<<<<<
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1918
Registration district: Skipton
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume Number: 9a
Page Number: 74

Name: James Fortune<<<<<<<<<<
Spouse Surname: Hemmingway<<<<<<<<<<
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1918
Registration district: Skipton
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume Number: 9a
Page Number: 74

My gut feeling is that Elizabeth Hemmingway and Elizabeth Bolton are the same woman, but I don't know why the two surnames.

Elizabeth's death

West Yorkshire, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1985
Name: Elizabeth Fortune
Birth Year: abt 1854
Parish: Silsden, St James
Burial Date: 28 Aug 1933
Burial Age: 79

and James?

Name: James Fortune
Birth Year: abt 1860
Parish: Silsden, St James
Burial Date: 23 Jun 1925
Burial Age: 65

Children's birth records?

Name: Hilda Fortune Boulton
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1892
Registration district: Skipton
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 9a
Page: 35


Name: Thomas Fortune Boulton
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1894
Registration district: Skipton
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 9a
Page: 34

Name: Ethel Fortune Boulton
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1896
Registration district: Skipton
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 9a
Page: 38

Name: Ivy Fortune Boulton
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1899
Registration district: Skipton
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 9a
Page: 37

Baptisms

Name: Ethel Fortune Bolton
Birth Date: 11 Feb 1896
Parish: Silsden, St James
Baptism Date: 9 Aug 1896
Father's Name: Bolton
Mother's name: Elizabeth Bolton

Born Feb 11th 1896. No father's name or occupation given.

Name: Thomas Fortune Bolton
Birth Date: 7 Apr 1896
Parish: Silsden, St James
Baptism Date: 9 Aug 1896
Father's Name: Bolton
Mother's name: Elizabeth Bolton

Birth date on image April 7 th 1894, not 1896 as given in the transcript. Again, only Elizabeth's name appears.

Name: Hilda Bolton
Birth Date: 10 Mar 1892
Parish: Silsden, St James
Baptism Date: 6 Apr 1892
Father's Name: Bolton
Mother's name: Elizabeth Bolton

Born March 10th. Mother described as a spinster

Name: Ivy Bolton
Birth Date: 24 Jun 1899
Parish: Silsden, St James
Baptism Date: 23 Jul 1899
Father's Name: Bolton
Mother's name: Elizabeth Jane Bolton

Born June 24th. In occupation it looks like the beginning of 'labour' has been crossed out and spinster substituted. No name of father given.

I'm not sure where the 'Elizabeth Jane comes from, as it is just Elizabeth on the image of the baptism register.

I think this might be Elizabeth as a married woman in census 1881, which may be why she couldn't marry James for so long.

However I can't find a Boulton/Bolton - Hemingway marriage yet.

Daur Sarah Ann here matched daur Sarah Ann 'Hemmington' in census 1891 posted previously.

Census 1881:

Address: York Square, Richmond County: Yorkshire (North riding)

HEMINGWAY, George Head Married M 34 1847 General Labourer
Leeds, Yorkshire
HEMINGWAY, Elizabeth Wife Married F 26 1855 Charwoman
Congleton, Staffordshire
HEMINGWAY, Sarah A Daughter Single F 3 1878 Scholar
Staleybridge, Cheshire<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
HEMINGWAY, John G Son Single M 1 1880 Richmond, Yorkshire

EDIT:

Baptism of daur Sarah Ann:

Name: Sarah Ann Hemingway
Birth Date: 7 Jul 1877
Parish: Leeds, St Saviour
Baptism Date: 13 Jan 1878
Father's Name: George Hemingway
Mother's name: Elizabeth Hemingway

Father a nail maker


Births Dec 1879 Hemmingway John George Richmond, Y. 9d 653

Is this Elizabeth in census 1861, with Boulton as her maiden name?

Note Elizabeth 'Hemmington's birthplace was' Talk-O'-Th'-Hill, Staffordshire, Bull Lane' in the 1891 census.

Address: Butt Lane, Talk Oth Hill County: Staffordshire<<<<<<<<<

BOULTON, Elijah Head Married M 37 1824 Miner Audley, Staffordshire
BOULTON, Mary Ann Wife Married F 34 1827
..., Staffordshire
BOULTON, Eliza Daughter F 14 1847 Works In Silk Audley, Staffordshire
BOULTON, Henry Son M 9 1852 ScholarAudley, Staffordshire
BOULTON, Elizabeth Daughter F 6 1855 Scholar Audley, Staffordshire<<<<<<<<<<<<<
BOULTON, Susannah Daughter F 4 1857 Scholar Audley, Staffordshire
BOULTON, Alice Daughter F 2 1859 Scholar Audley, Staffordshire


So I think that Elizabeth nee Boulton was the mother of James Fortune's children, and that she had previously been in a relationship or marriage with George Hemmingway, and that though she reverted to using her maiden name of Boulton/Bolton, after the relationship with George ended for whatever reason, when she finally married James Fortune it was under the name of Elizabeth Hemmingway.

????

Possible marriage for parents:

Name: Elijah Boulton<<<<<<<<<<
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Age:
Spouse's Name: Mary Ann Durber<<<<<<<<<<<
Spouse's Birth Date:
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age:
Event Date: 1846
Event Place: Wolstanton, Stafford, England
Father's Name: Isaac Boulton
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Father's Name: Richard Durber
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Race:
Marital Status:
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M39391-2
System Origin: England-VR
GS Film number: 1517617
Reference ID: 2:3GDVGG6

???

Elijah with father Isaac (from marriage record) in census 1841:

Address: Butt Lane, Audley, Talk County: Staffordshire

BOULTON, Isaac M 35 1806 Staffordshire<<<<<<<
BOULTON, Ann F 35 1806 Staffordshire
BOULTON, Elijah M 15 1826 Staffordshire<<<<<<<<
BOULTON, Enock M 10 1831 Staffordshire
BOULTON, David M 7 1834 Staffordshire
BOULTON, Eliza F 15 1826 Staffordshire
BOULTON, Caroline F 5 1836 Staffordshire
BOULTON, Charlotte F 3 1838 Staffordshire
BOULTON, Susanna F 1 1840 Staffordshire
LAWTON, Martha F 35 1806 Staffordshire
LAWTON, Martha F 4 1837 Staffordshire
LAWTON, Emmila F 1 1840 Staffordshire

Elijah's baptism?

Name: Elijah Boulton
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 18 Apr 1824
Christening Place: SAINT JAMES,AUDLEY,STAFFORD,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Isaac Boulton
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Ann
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C03771-1
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 426480, 426481
Reference ID:

Marriage for Isaac and Ann???

Name: Isaac Boulton
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Age:
Spouse's Name: Anne Sherratt
Spouse's Birth Date:
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age:
Event Date: 04 Feb 1823
Event Place: Wolstanton,Stafford,England
Father's Name:
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Father's Name:
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Race:
Marital Status:
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01003-1
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 497355, 497356, 873648, 96896
Reference ID:

Marriage of Ethel:

Name: Ethel Fortune Boulton
Birth Year: abt 1896
Marriage or Bann Date: 6 Aug 1927
Parish: Silsden, St James
Spouse's Name: Joseph Heater
Spouse's Father's Name: Riley Heater

Father's name left blank. One witness was Thomas Fortune Boulton.

Marriage of Ivy:

Name: Ivy Fortune Boulton
Birth Year: abt 1899
Age: 20
Marriage or Bann Date: 24 Dec 1919
Parish: Silsden, St James
Spouse's Name: Isaac Webster
Spouse's Father's Name: James Edward Webster

Again, no details for father given. One witness was Ethel Fortune Boulton.

Marriage of Hilda:

Name: Hilda Fortune Bolton
Birth Year: abt 1891
Age: 20
Marriage or Bann Date: Oct 1911
Parish: Silsden, St James
Spouse's Name: Amos Cockshott
Spouse's Father's Name: John Cockshott

Again, no father's details given.

Elizabeth's 'husband' George Hemingway in census 1891 When she was 'married' with a single lodger James Fortune.

In this census George is also claiming to be married, and has son John G from census 1881 with him:

Address: 25 27 29, Cleaver Street, Blackburn County: Lancashire

PAYNE, Samuel Head Married M 60 1831 Labourer General
Dorsetshire
PAYNE, Sarah Wife Married F 51 1840 Domestic Servant
London, Surrey
KIRKHAM, Richard Lodger Married M 72 1819 Iron Moulder
Chorley, Lancashire
HINDLE, Thomas Lodger Single M 67 1824 General Labourer
Blackburn, Lancashire
HEMMINGWAY, George Lodger Married M 44 1847 Nail Maker
Leeds, Yorkshire<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
HEMMINGWAY, John G Lodger Single M 11 1880 Scholar
Leeds, Yorkshire<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
COTTON, Henry Lodger Widower M 55 1836 General Labourer
Whittle Le Woods, Lancashire
CARSON, Robert Lodger Single M 47 1844 General Labourer
Darwen, Lancashire
AYR, Patrick Lodger Married M 37 1854 General Labourer
Ireland
NEWELL, Patrick Lodger Single M 18 1873 Cotton Spinner
Blackburn, Lancashire
WELLS, John Lodger Single M 23 1868 Cotton Spinner
Blackburn, Lancashire
HANSON, George Lodger Single M 50 1841 Iron Dresser
Stainland, Yorkshire
GLAISTER, John Lodger Single M 37 1854 Nail Maker
Abbey Town, Cumberland
GLEN, Martin Lodger Single M 36 1855 General Labourer
Ireland