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Just spoken to my m i l. All this is correct and fits in, even Bessies 2nd marriage to mr Fielder is correct. She was born in Sale, Cheshire, and her brother in Manchester and sister in Yorkshire. She is very impressed. Thank you to everone who gave me info..Jane.

Ooh, thanks Dea, very kind.. I will get the info on the other 2 'stuck' people and let you know later..im going away first thing tomorrow and am supposed to be packing, not much has been done today. Lol...

Yes its Dorothy Mary and she married David Willcox 1st Sept 1956. We are going to ring her and tell her all this today, I will tell her to look at her birth cert. She always told us she was born in Oxfordshire..her brother lives in Australia now but i'll ask her to check with her siblings what there's say'.

Please do Jane !! - We do love something to 'get our teeth into'

Dea Xxx ;-)

Yes do.

Maryb

Girls, you are clever.. I'll have to send you my other people im stuck on in my side of the family...Lol...

Dorothy has the middle initial of m is that correct.
Did she marry in 1956 ? to your father in law.

The Dorothy born in Bucklow also had middle initial M so it is looking like the same Dorothy!!

North Bierley where Ann was born is in Bradford West Yorks area.
Bucklow is in Cheshire.

Maryb.

Bucklow is Cheshire.

It's all available on freebmd.org or on ancestry - you just need to widen your serach criteria!

In other words keep an open mind, our ancestors do not always do what we think, not do they always know their birth years or even how to spell their names! Many of our ancestors were illiterate, an couldn't count!!!!

Apparantly, her real name was Hannah but she was known as Nancy. She had an older sibling that died called Nancy so maybe she was affectionatly known as Nancy because of that as Hannah was the youngest child..Havent thought of looking under 'Nancy Paul' for marriage as always told it was her nickname and we have her birth records as Hannah..What details does it say for this marriage please? Jane..

I had been looking at that 1933 marriage - I think it may be a Catholic one but it is certainly James Fraser! ??

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1933
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
PAUL Nancy WILSON James Fraser Chorlton-on-Medlock Register Office or Registar Attended Manchester CHO_RM/385/63

Dea x

The names and dates match. Hubby said they did move around alot..surprised Jim was born in Manchester, that we never knew. Dorothy was born in Bambury, Oxfordshire. Is Bucklow near there? Where did you find this info please? Jane..

Are you sure of your m-I-l mother's mother's name? I'm seeing a James F marriage to a Nancy in 1933 Manchester.which could account for the births, but maiden name does not match.

Think Mary has already beaten me to it!

Connection??

James F Wilson married J/A/S 1933 Manchester South 8d 456 to Nancy Paul.

James F Wilson born A/M/J 1934 Manchester South 8d 101.

Nancy was often a nickname for Ann so could be a possibility.

Maryb.

Sorry, but my internet keeps crashing.

Wow, looks they moved around a lot before settling in Bristol:

James F born Manchester South Q2/1934
Dorothy M born Bucklow Q3.1935
Ann born N.Bierley Q3.1937 N.Bierley

Do these look right to you?

Sorry, ive put m i laws mums details down instead. My m i l was Dorothy Wilson and her siblings were Jim and Anne, also Wilson...sorry...

I have her as Paul. Her siblings were, Rosa 1885, Nancy 87, William 89, Daisy 91, Henry 93, Emma 96 and Frank 1899' the parents were William Paul and Mary Paul (Bridgment)...

Was you m-I-l and her siblings registered as Wilson or Paul? (or both) Or if you don't know just post up their Christian names and we should be able to find out.

Potty, thank u for your time and help but don't think these are the right family.nothing ties in with my James. Thanks anyway..jane..

He was 12 years older than Hannah. My mother in law was born oct 1935, her sister feb 1937, and her older brother Jim must be about 1934. I know they are all very close in age. I presumed he was with Hannah a few years beore then. I heard they moved away from London to start a new life in Bristol where no one knew them.maybe she was pregnant then with Jim and as they wasnt married, could pretend and start afresh..James's dad was 14 years older than Bessie so it must run in the family. Not with me and my hubby though, we were born one day apart..