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Trying to find more on the ancestors of Ann Bury (Berry). Have her baptism. Please see last post.


I can find no other mention of Abram Eckersley who was 3 days old on the 1841 census posted by Kath below.

No baptism, death, nothing on the 1851 census index.

Please will someone check the image to see if his name has been mistranscribed?







Please will someone give me the details for Timothy Eckersley b 1775 in Lancashire, possibly Bolton, in the 1851 census.

He married Mary Cowburn in 1803, but not sure she will still be living as the entry for Timothy on the index does not show a parent or spouse name.

Thanks for looking.

Is this them?

1851 census transcription details for: Blackburn Road, Sharples
Print Close National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 2208
Folio: 502
Page: 23
Reg. District: Bolton
Sub District: Sharples
Parish: Sharples
Enum. District: 1B
Ecclesiastical District: St Pauls
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Blackburn Road, Sharples
County: Lancashire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
ECKERSLEY, William Head Married M 43 1808 Whitesmith
Bolton, Lancashire
ECKERSLEY, Ann Wife Married F 38 1813
Blackburn, Lancashire
ECKERSLEY, Eleanor Daughter Unmarried F 19 1832 Reel Winder
Blackburn, Lancashire
ECKERSLEY, Alice Daughter Unmarried F 16 1835 Thread Winder
Bolton, Lancashire
ECKERSLEY, Timothy Son Unmarried M 14 1837 Crofter
Bolton, Lancashire
ECKERSLEY, Martha Daughter F 5 1846 Scholar
Sharples, Lancashire
ECKERSLEY, Maria Daughter F 2 1849
Sharples, Lancashire
ECKERSLEY, Robert Son M 0 (3 MOS) 1851
Sharples, Lancashire
ECKERSLEY, Timothy Father M 76 1775 Hand Loom Weaver
Bolton, Lancashire >>>>>>>>>>>>
ECKERSLEY, Mary Mother F 71 1780 Hand Loom Weaver
Bolton, Lancashire>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


George

Thank you George. Both still living, that's a bonus. Off to look for possible deaths now. :-)

Found possible deaths for Mary & Timothy aged 76 & 84 respectively.

I see there is a large age gap between Timothy's grandchildren Timothy b 1837 & Martha b 1846.

Please will you see if you can find the family on the 1841 census to see if there were any other children?

Is this them in the 1841 census? :-

1841 census transcription details for: Heaton Street, Bolton, Bolton, Great

National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 534
Book/Folio: 8/14
Page: 21
Reg. District: Bolton
Sub District: Bolton Eastern, Great
Parish: Bolton
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough: Bolton

Address: Heaton Street, Bolton, Bolton, Great
County: Lancashire

Name Relation Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

ECKERSLEY, Timothy M 65 1776 Lancashire
ECKERSLEY, Mary F 60 1781 Lancashire
ECKERSLEY, John M 35 1806 Lancashire
ECKERSLEY, William M 30 1811 Lancashire
ECKERSLEY, Ann F 25 1816
ECKERSLEY, Ellen F 9 1832
ECKERSLEY, Alice F 7 1834 Lancashire
ECKERSLEY, Timothy M 5 1836 Lancashire
ECKERSLEY, Abram M 0 (3 days) 1841 Lancashire

Kath. x

Not much luck with the 1841 but this looks like the birth of the Martha in the 1851:


Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1845


SurnameForename(s)Sub-DistrictRegisters AtMother's Maiden Name

Reference

ECKERSLY Martha A Sharples Bolton BERRY SH/3/168

The other younger children are also on Lancashire bmd site, plus a William b1839

You will find baptisms for the children on this site and you might find a marriage:

lancashire online parish clerk

Thank you Kath & Potty. Much appreciated. :-)

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Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1841
ECKERSLEY (boy) - Farnworth Bolton - ECKERSLEY



Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1841
ECKERSLEY (boy) 0 Farnworth Bolton

OR...


if Abram was an illegitimate grandson his mother may have married and changed his surname

Yes, Christina, Abram's name is correct.

Just for interest -
the 1841 has lots of mistakes in Ancestry's transcription!
Timothy, Mary, & John have been missed out, and it says Abram's 3 months old, when the image clearly says 3 days.


1841 England Census about Abram Eckersley
Name: Abram Eckersley
Age: 3 Mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Gender: Male
Where born: Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Bolton Le Moors
Hundred: Salford
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

View Image

Registration District: Bolton
Sub-registration District: Great Bolton East
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 534
Book: 8
Folio: 14
Page Number: 21
Household Members:
Name Age
William Eckersley 30
Ann Eckersley 25
Ellen Eckersley 9
Alice Eckersley 7
Timothy Eckersley 5
Abram Eckersley 3 Mo

Thank you Mike & ArgyllGran. Shame the 1841 didn't record relationships. It looked as though he was William & Ann's child. If he wasn't, then he was very young, at 3 days old, to be away from his mother.

I'd also say that he was William and Ann's child. On the 1851 census there is a gap between the births of Timothy and Martha (when Abram was probably born and died).

I think the birth and death that Mike found look very promising.

Kath. x

GRO refs for the birth and death Mike found:

Births Jun 1841 (>99%)
Eckersley Male Bolton 21 146

Deaths Jun 1841 (>99%)
Eckersley Male Bolton 21 96

Trouble is the boy Eckersley was born to a mother maiden name Eckersley so most likely unmarried.

Have found all the other births on Lancsbmd ( mother maiden name BERRY/BURY) so it's strange there is no entry for Abram.
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William & Ann's marriage ?

Marriage: 6 Sep 1830 St Mary the Virgin, Blackburn, Lancashire, England
William Eckersley - (X), Whitesmith, Bachelor, this parish
Ann Bury - (X), Spinster, this parish
Witness: Joseph Fairbrother; Zachar'h Maudsley
Married by Banns by: J. Blackburne

The Eckersley daughters were all too young to have had a child in 1841, so if he was illegitimate he could have been a nephew, or else the son of a neice.

Birth cert would give mother's first name, and allow further search.

Not William's son ....


Burial: 6 Apr 1842 St Mary the Virgin, Deane, Lancashire, England
Elijah Eckersley - son of James Eckersley
Age: 11 months
Abode: Great Bolton
Buried by: E. Pigot Curate


but not finding a marriage for James Eckersley to Ms Bury

Maybe significant.

Was James, William's brother ?
and did his first wife die in childbirth ?


Marriage: 21 Sep 1843 St Peter, Bolton, Lancashire, England
James Eckersley - (X), Full, Shuttle Maker, WIDOWER, Sweet Green
Mary Bromiley - (X), Full, Spinster, Queen Street
Groom's Father: Timothy Eckersley, Weaver<<<<<<<<<<<<
Bride's Father: Peter Bromiley, Spindle forger
Witness: James Ward, (X); James Liptrot

Pity! That was an appealing theory about Elijah!

What about James, Joseph and Oliver, also registered in Jun qr 1841?
Well, not Oliver - no sign of him having died before 1851 census.
But could be James or Joseph?

Interesting - biblical names seem to have been popular with Bolton Eckersleys.
Elijah, Isaac, Israel, Emanuel, Martha, Rachel, not to mention more common John, James, Peter, Joseph, Sarah.

Re James's first wife, plenty of candidates. Does Lancs BMD give his first marriage?

Deaths Mar 1841 (>99%)
ECKERSLEY Alice Bolton 21 100
ECKERSLEY Maria Bolton 21 91

Deaths Jun 1841 (>99%)
Eckersley Ann Bolton 21 63
Eckersley Elizabeth Bolton 21 97
Eckersley Jane Bolton 21 62
Eckersley Phebe Bolton 21 127