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Manchester, Marriage & Banns 1754-1930

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Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson*

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson* Report 20 Jul 2013 15:05

Hmmn. Looks like Unsworth to me.

Just checked back through everything, other than Charles and Mary, the only mystery now is

Henry Huntsworth born c1835/7

Flip

Flip Report 20 Jul 2013 14:50

Mary Unsworth
Age: 61
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1810
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Prestbury, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Chorlton on Medlock
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration District: Chorlton
Sub-registration District: Chorlton upon Medlock
ED, institution, or vessel: 38
Household Schedule Number: 80
Piece: 3993
Folio: 11
Page Number: 16
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Unsworth 61
John Unsworth 18
Amelia Unsworth 13

I'm going to PM you the original, because I'm pretty sure it does not say Unsworth - looks more like Hounsworth to me. But see what you think. It actually says John and Amelia are her son/daughter, but I wonder?

Flip

Flip Report 20 Jul 2013 14:46

Mary Unsworth
Age: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1809
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Female
Where born: Prestbury, Cheshire, England

Civil Parish: Chorlton upon Medlock
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration District: Chorlton
Sub-registration District: Chorlton upon Medlock
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 31
Piece: 2881
Folio: 102
Page Number: 7
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Drake 48
Sarah Drake 45
Abraham Drake 18
John Drake 27
Friend Drake 15
Elizabeth Drake 13
Lydia Drake 10
Mary Drake 4
Emma Drake 4 Months
Mary Sea 55
Mary Unsworth 52
John Unsworth 8
Amelia Unsworth 4

Not sure, but the 1851 census stated she was born in Prestbury (although Reggie posted FMP which was transcribed as Macclesfield). You need to check out who John and Amelia are and how they could fit in.

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson*

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson* Report 20 Jul 2013 14:37

?Mary in 1871

Name: Mary Unsworth
Birth: abt 1810 - city, Cheshire, England
Residence: 1871 - city, Lancashire, England

and in 1861

Name: Mary Unsworth
Birth: abt 1809 - city, Cheshire, England
Residence: 1861 - city, Lancashire, England

Flip

Flip Report 20 Jul 2013 14:30

According to Lancashirebmd the death for Charles just posted states he was 54, of London Road district, so a possibility, might be worth checking for this one in 1851, even if just to eliminate him:

Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1858
Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference
UNSWORTH Charles 54 London Road Manchester LRD/45/45

Flip

Flip Report 20 Jul 2013 14:27

This is pure speculation, as no ages were given at death, but there is this one:

Charles Unsworth
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1858
Registration District: Manchester
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 164

Although I'm not even sure if the death cert would give an age or anything to corroborate it.

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson*

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson* Report 20 Jul 2013 14:13

Those 2 are proving much harder nuts to crack. Thanks for all the help with Priscilla, sooooooooooo glad we appear to have cracked that mystery.

Flip

Flip Report 20 Jul 2013 13:39

Sorry, but I can't see an earlier baptism for a child to Thomas and Priscilla though - well not in the Manchester records.

AND - what on earth happened to the original couple we were looking for - Charles and Mary???

Flip

Flip Report 20 Jul 2013 13:34

Deaths Jun 1870 (>99%)
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BARLOW Priscilla 33 Manchester 8d 146
BARLOW William Charles 0 Manchester 8d 146

Wonder if this is her, might explain why I can't see her on the 1871 census, looks like she and baby died shortly after his birth:

William Charles Barlow
Birth Date: 28 Apr 1870
Age: 0
Baptism Date: 5 Jun 1870
Parish: Manchester, St Simon and St Jude
Parish as it Appears: Manchester, St Simon and St Jude
Father's Name: Thomas Barlow
Mother's Name: Priscilla Barlow
Reference Number: GB127.M403/5/1/3 reet

Of 49 Acton St, father a labourer.

SNAP!!

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson*

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson* Report 20 Jul 2013 13:27

Looks like Thomas was left a widower pretty quickly.


Surname

First name(s)

Age

District

Vol

Page



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Deaths Jun 1870 (>99%)
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>>>>>>>BARLOW Priscilla 33 Manchester 8d 146 Scan available - click to view
BARLOW William Charles 0 Manchester 8d 146 Scan available - click to view
Booth Solomon 24 Manchester 8d 146 Scan available - click to view
Butterworth Rachel 1 Manchester 8d 146 Scan available - click to view
Fairclough Absalom 0 Manchester 8d 146 Scan available - click to view
Fisher William 48 Manchester 8d 146 Scan available - click to view
Logan Ada 0 Manchester 8d 146 Scan available - click to view
Owen Hannah 0 Manchester 8d 146 Scan available - click to view
Pratt Thomas 5 Manchester 8d 146 Scan available - click to view
Staley John Albert 2 Manchester 8d 146 Scan available - click to view

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson*

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson* Report 20 Jul 2013 13:24

Could be Betsy 'Tildsley', that's what it looks like to me anyhow.

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson*

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson* Report 20 Jul 2013 13:24

Could be Betsy 'Tildsley', that's what it looks like to me anyhow.

Flip

Flip Report 20 Jul 2013 13:13

I'll send you the image, the other witness is Betsy ??? - she signed, all the rest made their mark.

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson*

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson* Report 20 Jul 2013 13:06

Brilliant!!! :-D

Flip

Flip Report 20 Jul 2013 13:01

Think you may be right with Priscilla:

Priscilla Unsworth
Age: 30
Birth Year: abt 1838
Marriage Date: 26 Dec 1868
Parish: Manchester, St Mary, St Denys and St George
Father's Name: Charles Unsworth (button maker)
Spouse's Name: Thomas Barlow (Porter
Spouse's Age: 30
Spouse's Father's Name: Thomas Barlow (cow keeper)
Archive Roll: 736

His address 56, hers 54 Silver street. Neither had been married before, one of the witnesses was Charles Unsworth, but I can't read the other witness name.

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson*

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson* Report 20 Jul 2013 12:55

Think that death for Mary Huntsworth is for Charles (1805) half-sister, she never married but had an illegitimate daughter, namely Louisa, 1871 Census finds them living together, Mary working as a Milliner, Louisa as a Teacher

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson*

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson* Report 20 Jul 2013 12:46

Yes she is the one I'm interested in Flip. I have her up to 1861, living in Lancashire. Wonder if she married under either the UNSWORTH/HUNSWORTH spelling. Wouldn't be the first if she did. If you look at FreeBMD you will see a marriage for George Herbert Huntsworth. I have that cert and it's been amended, the spelling of the surname on the actual cert is UNSWORTH.

Flip

Flip Report 20 Jul 2013 12:42

I wonder if this a possibility?

Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1876
Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference
HUNTSWORTH Mary 63 Aughton Preston A/7/26

Flip

Flip Report 20 Jul 2013 12:39

The 1883 marriage for Priscilla to Thomas Grundy found by Reggie must be for the daughter of Charles Jnr - they are on 1911 census:

Priscilla Grundy
Age in 1911: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: South Manchester
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 81 Monton Street Moss Side Manchester
Marital Status: Married
Registration District: Chorlton
Registration District Number: 464
Sub-registration District: Hulme
ED, institution, or vessel: 64
Piece: 23929
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Grundy 51
Priscilla Grundy 49
Edith H Grundy 26
Thomas Grundy 22
Sidney Grundy 16

And this could confirm, birth of the oldest child shown:

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1884
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
GRUNDY Edith Huntsworth Ardwick Manchester ARD/191/71

although no mmn stated, her middle name rather gives it away.

So, what happened to the other Priscilla - I guess from your last post she is the one you are interested in?

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson*

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson* Report 20 Jul 2013 11:35

Yes it is, Reggie. Particularly with regard to knowing that Priscilla appeared to be alive when her brother married.

Thanks so much both of you.