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David
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4 Jul 2013 10:01 |
Further to my search for Clara Edwards she is not the Clara Clewellyn As I have said before her Mother was Mary Edwards born in 1835 although she is shown on the 1861 census as a Turner. Also on this census is Ann Turner this is not correct as Ann is Mary Edwards mother. The 1841 Herefordshire census gives the Edwards family living in Putley James Edwards Head born 1795 Ann Edwards Wife b0rn 1805 James Edwards Son born 1831 Hannah Edwards daughter born 1833 Mary Edwards daughter born 1835 Edward Edwards son born 1839 James Edwards born 1795 married Ann Flide born 1805 in Woolhope Herefordshire in 1829 I have traced Mary Edwards on the 1851 census as working as a domestic servant in Woolhope j have been unable to any further record of James or Hannah Edwards. And of course what happened to my Clara after 1881
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Potty
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3 Jul 2013 16:13 |
David, Clara Llewellyn's maiden name was Brazier and she is on all censuses up to 1881 living in Much Marcle, so not your Clara
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Potty
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3 Jul 2013 16:08 |
Have submitted corrections to the 1881 for Edwards and Much Marcle.
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Andrew
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3 Jul 2013 15:50 |
1881
Fredk.J. Patton 30 Edith Patton 32 Dorothy Patton 3 Marjorie D. Patton Mary E. Mills 19 Mary E. Reason 28 Cathl. Hinton 24 >>>>Clara Edward 23 born Muckmarch, Nurse Maid.
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David
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3 Jul 2013 15:13 |
Clara Edwards 1871 Hereford census Ledbury Union Workhouse High St Ledbury aged 14 Nurse John Charles Edwards my Grandfather aged 9 pauper/scholar also in Workhouse. 1881 London census Clara Edward living with the Patton family in New Cromwell Road Kensington aged 23 employed as a nursemaid born Mckmarch Gloucestershire. I have a copy of the original census which does say Edwards and place of birth as Much Marcle although it says Gloucestershire which was possible in 1881 it is right on the border with Herefordshire. I am going to look at the 1891 census for Clara Clewellyn as the age for my Clara is right also birthplace and this is the best lead I have ever had
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3 Jul 2013 14:53 |
Thanks Potty have edited it (was just checking but got called away from the computer) also wondered about this death
Clara Edwards Estimated Birth Year:abt 1856 Date of Registration:Jan-Feb-Mar 1893 Age at Death:37 Registration District:Barnet Inferred County:Middlesex Volume:3a Page:148
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Potty
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3 Jul 2013 14:41 |
Don't think the 1891 is her, Jansmith. Arthur LLewelly married Clara Brazier in 1888.
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ErikaH
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3 Jul 2013 14:28 |
David
You keep referring to 1881 census.............please give us the EXACT details
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ErikaH
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3 Jul 2013 14:25 |
She was not in the Workhouse in 1871.......
1871 census
Person: EDWARDS, Clara Address: High Street, Ledbury
HODGES, Joseph Head M 38 1833 Gloucestershire VIEW HODGES, Fannie Wife F 32 1839 Worcestershire VIEW HODGES, Florance M Daughter F 6 1865 Herefordshire VIEW HODGES, Godfrey J Son M 2 1869 Herefordshire VIEW HODGES, Augusta F Daughter F 1 1870 Herefordshire VIEW HODGES, Sydney W Son M 0 1871 Herefordshire VIEW PROCTOR, Grace H Assistant F 19 1852 Worcestershire VIEW NICHOLS, Elizabeth Servant F 18 1853 Worcestershire VIEW EDWARDS, Clara Servant F 14 1857 Herefordshire
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jansmith
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3 Jul 2013 14:20 |
1891 possible EDIT no she was Clara Brazier (marriage index ) Name: Clara Brazier Date of Registration:Jan-Feb-Mar 1888 Registration District:Ledbury Inferred County:Herefordshire
Name: Clara Clewellyn [Clara Llewellyn] Age: 34 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Arthur W Clewellyn Gender: Female Where born: Much Marcle, Herefordshire, England Civil Parish: Paddington Ecclesiastical parish: St Jude County/Island: London Country: England
Name: Arthur W Clewellyn [Arthur W Llewellyn] Age: 34 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Clara Clewellyn Gender: Male Where born: Hereford, Ross & Cromarty, Scotland [Ross, Herefordshire, England] Civil Parish: Paddington Ecclesiastical parish: St Jude
Name: Mary E Brazier Age: 39 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852 Relation: Sister-in-law Gender: Female Where born: Much Marcle, Herefordshire, England
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jansmith
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3 Jul 2013 14:17 |
1881 census FOR INFO THIS MAY BE THE Clara WHO MARRIED IN 1881 as she was born in London
Name: Clara Edwards Age: 23 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858 Relation: Servant Gender:
Female Where born: London, London, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: St George County/Island: London Country: England
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ErikaH
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3 Jul 2013 13:54 |
Back to basics..................
1861 census
Person: TURNER, Clara Address: Sunny Bank, Venning Lane, Much Marcle
TURNER, John Head Married M 37 1824 Labourer Cradley, Herefordshire VIEW TURNER, Mary Wife Married F 27 1834 Labourer Woolhope, Herefordshire VIEW TURNER, James Son M 8 1853 Much Marcle, Herefordshire VIEW TURNER, Clara Daughter F 4 1857 Much Marcle, Herefordshire VIEW TURNER, Mary A Daughter F 2 1859 Much Marcle, Herefordshire VIEW TURNER, Ann Mother In Law Widow F 50 1811 Pauper ..., Herefordshire
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Potty
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3 Jul 2013 13:46 |
David, a bit confused about your references to the 1881 census. There are no copies of the 1881 census - there is one image available and several transcriptions of that image. Do you mean that she is listed correctly on the image and has been mistranscribed? Please give us the details that you have found, both the incorrect and the correct so that we may look at them ourselves. We may notice something that will help.
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David
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3 Jul 2013 10:59 |
I do not know who or if my Clara Edwards married as the last record I have is the 1881 London census where her name and birthplace is spelt incorrectly but I do have a copy which does have the correct spelling. The marriage that I thought was at St Pancras is the wrong Clara Edwards as she was born in London.
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MarieCeleste
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2 Jul 2013 19:09 |
David - so can you confirm if it was definitely a Jenkins that Clara married, or could it be Dickens per the information posted above?
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MarieCeleste
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2 Jul 2013 19:06 |
pm from David:
"Subject: Clara Edwards
My Grandfather the brother of Clara was John Charles Edwards born Ledbury Herefordshire 1861 to Mary Edwards but on birth was registered as a Turner. Mary was living with John Turner on the 1861 Census not married to him. Clara also shown as a Turner on this census. Mary and all four children are in Ledbury Union Workhouse in late 1861 all four children now listed as Edwards. Mary died in the workhouse in November 1863 aged 27. Clara and John Charles are shown on the 1871 census still in the workhouse Clara as a 14 year old nurse and John as a pauper/scholar aged nine. Mary A. the younger sister of Clara had died in the workhouse before the census of 1871. James the eldest of the Edwards children was shown as an apprentice in Eggleton on the 1871 census having left the workhouse about 1867. All these records I have. James died in South Wales in 1905. and John Charles my Mothers Father in 1931. Unfortunately my Mother who also was Clara Edwards died in 1937 when I was only nine this is my interest in finding the original Clara. David "
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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2 Jul 2013 10:11 |
Remarried
Name: Beatrice C Bryce Spouse Surname: Lovell Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1934 Registration District: Uxbridge Inferred County: Middlesex Volume Number: 3a Page Number: 312 Find Spouse: Rudolph J Lovell
Name: Beatrice C Lovell Birth Date: abt 1884 Date of Registration: Dec 1965 Age at Death: 81 Registration District: Merton Inferred County: Greater London Volume: 5d Page: 380
Name: Rudolph J Lovell Birth Date: abt 1885 Date of Registration: Jun 1968 Age at Death: 83 Registration District: Wandsworth Inferred County: Greater London Volume: 5e Page: 657
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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2 Jul 2013 09:58 |
?electoral roll
Name: Clara Dickens Year: 1911 County or Borough: Camden Ward or Division/Constituency: Hampstead Street Address: 30 Camden buildings
On her own
London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 about Clara Dickens Name: Clara Dickens Year: 1908 County or Borough: Camden Ward or Division/Constituency: Hampstead Street Address: 2 Benham's place On her own
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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2 Jul 2013 09:46 |
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1911 England Census about Clara Jane Dickens Name: Clara Jane Dickens Age in 1911: 50 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861 Relation to Head: Servant Gender: Female Birth Place: London, United Kingdom Civil Parish: Hampstead County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: Well Walk, Well Side, Hampstead N W Marital Status: Widowed Occupation: COOK DOMESTIC Registration District: Hampstead Registration District Number: 8 Sub-registration District: Hampstead ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Piece: 593 Household Members: Name Age Edwin Abbott Abbott 72 Mary Elizabeth Abbott 67 Edwin Abbott 43 Mary Abbott 40 Clara Jane Dickens 50 Daisy Florence Byard 26
Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 593.
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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2 Jul 2013 09:36 |
She married David Bryce
Name: Beatrice Bryce Age in 1911: 27 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884 Relation to Head: Wife Gender: Female Birth Place: Hampstead, London, England Civil Parish: Ruislip County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street Address: Glenroy, Roy Road, Northwood Rso, Mx Marital Status: Married Years Married: 5 Estimated Marriage Year: 1906 Registration District: Uxbridge Registration District Number: 127 Sub-registration District: Uxbridge ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Household Schedule Number: 297 Piece: 6777 Household Members: Name Age David James Bryce 46 occ book publishers assistant Beatrice Bryce 27 David Harry Bryce 3
Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 6777; Schedule Number: 297.
Married 5 years 1 child born
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