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David
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1 Jul 2013 18:16 |
Clara Edwards born Much Marcle Herefordshire Dec 1857 my Grandfathers sister last trace on the 1881 London census name and birthplace not correct on internet copy but have copy of original which is right. Clara I believe married Henry Jenkins in Sept 1881 but neither appear on the 1891 census and the marriage certificate does not give any family names or history.
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Andrew
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1 Jul 2013 18:22 |
Is this the marriage you are referring to?
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Sep 1881 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BUCKLAND Isabella Pancras 1b 172 >>DICKENS Henry Pancras 1b 172 >>EDWARDS Clara Pancras 1b 172 Pittman John Alfred Pancras 1b 172
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MrsBucketBouquet
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1 Jul 2013 18:37 |
Did they have any Children?
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GlitterBaby
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1 Jul 2013 18:56 |
Looking at that possible 1881 marriage
Both fathers are not shown and just marked as "Dead"
Henry shown as a bricklayer
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GlitterBaby
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1 Jul 2013 18:59 |
Can you post the possible 1881 for Clara
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MarieCeleste
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1 Jul 2013 19:08 |
Hello David, welcome to the boards.
Just so we're sure we have the right Clara can you confirm who your grandfather was and when/where born? (I'm guessing he must have been much younger than Clara?)
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GlitterBaby
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1 Jul 2013 19:13 |
1871 is she a servant in Ledbury to Hadges family
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Andrew
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1 Jul 2013 19:34 |
A possible, maybe for 1891??
Harry Dickens 31 Bricklayer Clara Dickens 30 born Hampstead, London, England Clara B Dickens 6
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1 Jul 2013 20:00 |
I wondered about that one for 1891 and think they are on later census with Clara still giving Hampstead as place of birth
Need some feedback from poster as to why he thinks she married Jenkins
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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1 Jul 2013 22:09 |
Welcome to the boards David.
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Clara Edwards Name: Clara Edwards Spouse Name: Henry Dickens Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 18 Sep 1881 Parish: St Pancras Old St Pancras Borough: Camden Register Type: Parish Register
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Clara Beatrice Dickens Name: Clara Beatrice Dickens Record Type: Baptism BIRTH 24th January*********************** Baptism Date: 26 Jan 1884*********************** Father's Name: Harry Dickens****** Bricklayer***** Mother's Name: Clara Julia Dickens******************* Parish or Poor Law Union: St John´s Wood St Mark Borough: Westminster Register Type: Parish Registers
Address 4 Grove Pl, Hampstead.
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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1 Jul 2013 22:13 |
1901 England Census about Clara Dickens Name: Clara Dickens Age: 42 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Harry Dickens Gender: Female Where born: Hampstead Civil Parish: Hampstead Ecclesiastical parish: St John County/Island: London Country: England Street Address:
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Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration District: Hampstead Sub-registration District: Hampstead ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 117 Piece: 120 Folio: 112 Page Number: 16 Household Members: Name Age Harry Dickens 48 Clara Dickens 42 Beatrice C Dickens 19 Mary E Frost 64 Lodger
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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2 Jul 2013 09:28 |
Daughters marriage
Name: Beatrice Clara Dickens Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1906 Registration District: Hampstead Inferred County: London Volume Number: 1a Page Number: 1558 Records on Page: Name Frances Margaret Brown David James Bryce Beatrice Clara Dickens Walter Islip
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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2 Jul 2013 09:36 |
She married David Bryce
Name: Beatrice Bryce Age in 1911: 27 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884 Relation to Head: Wife Gender: Female Birth Place: Hampstead, London, England Civil Parish: Ruislip County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street Address: Glenroy, Roy Road, Northwood Rso, Mx Marital Status: Married Years Married: 5 Estimated Marriage Year: 1906 Registration District: Uxbridge Registration District Number: 127 Sub-registration District: Uxbridge ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Household Schedule Number: 297 Piece: 6777 Household Members: Name Age David James Bryce 46 occ book publishers assistant Beatrice Bryce 27 David Harry Bryce 3
Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 6777; Schedule Number: 297.
Married 5 years 1 child born
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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2 Jul 2013 09:46 |
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1911 England Census about Clara Jane Dickens Name: Clara Jane Dickens Age in 1911: 50 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861 Relation to Head: Servant Gender: Female Birth Place: London, United Kingdom Civil Parish: Hampstead County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: Well Walk, Well Side, Hampstead N W Marital Status: Widowed Occupation: COOK DOMESTIC Registration District: Hampstead Registration District Number: 8 Sub-registration District: Hampstead ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Piece: 593 Household Members: Name Age Edwin Abbott Abbott 72 Mary Elizabeth Abbott 67 Edwin Abbott 43 Mary Abbott 40 Clara Jane Dickens 50 Daisy Florence Byard 26
Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 593.
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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2 Jul 2013 09:58 |
?electoral roll
Name: Clara Dickens Year: 1911 County or Borough: Camden Ward or Division/Constituency: Hampstead Street Address: 30 Camden buildings
On her own
London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 about Clara Dickens Name: Clara Dickens Year: 1908 County or Borough: Camden Ward or Division/Constituency: Hampstead Street Address: 2 Benham's place On her own
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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2 Jul 2013 10:11 |
Remarried
Name: Beatrice C Bryce Spouse Surname: Lovell Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1934 Registration District: Uxbridge Inferred County: Middlesex Volume Number: 3a Page Number: 312 Find Spouse: Rudolph J Lovell
Name: Beatrice C Lovell Birth Date: abt 1884 Date of Registration: Dec 1965 Age at Death: 81 Registration District: Merton Inferred County: Greater London Volume: 5d Page: 380
Name: Rudolph J Lovell Birth Date: abt 1885 Date of Registration: Jun 1968 Age at Death: 83 Registration District: Wandsworth Inferred County: Greater London Volume: 5e Page: 657
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MarieCeleste
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2 Jul 2013 19:06 |
pm from David:
"Subject: Clara Edwards
My Grandfather the brother of Clara was John Charles Edwards born Ledbury Herefordshire 1861 to Mary Edwards but on birth was registered as a Turner. Mary was living with John Turner on the 1861 Census not married to him. Clara also shown as a Turner on this census. Mary and all four children are in Ledbury Union Workhouse in late 1861 all four children now listed as Edwards. Mary died in the workhouse in November 1863 aged 27. Clara and John Charles are shown on the 1871 census still in the workhouse Clara as a 14 year old nurse and John as a pauper/scholar aged nine. Mary A. the younger sister of Clara had died in the workhouse before the census of 1871. James the eldest of the Edwards children was shown as an apprentice in Eggleton on the 1871 census having left the workhouse about 1867. All these records I have. James died in South Wales in 1905. and John Charles my Mothers Father in 1931. Unfortunately my Mother who also was Clara Edwards died in 1937 when I was only nine this is my interest in finding the original Clara. David "
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MarieCeleste
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2 Jul 2013 19:09 |
David - so can you confirm if it was definitely a Jenkins that Clara married, or could it be Dickens per the information posted above?
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David
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3 Jul 2013 10:59 |
I do not know who or if my Clara Edwards married as the last record I have is the 1881 London census where her name and birthplace is spelt incorrectly but I do have a copy which does have the correct spelling. The marriage that I thought was at St Pancras is the wrong Clara Edwards as she was born in London.
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3 Jul 2013 13:46 |
David, a bit confused about your references to the 1881 census. There are no copies of the 1881 census - there is one image available and several transcriptions of that image. Do you mean that she is listed correctly on the image and has been mistranscribed? Please give us the details that you have found, both the incorrect and the correct so that we may look at them ourselves. We may notice something that will help.
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