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Reggie thank you so very much for the census information

1861 census


Person: GRIFFITHS, Catharine Address: Tyny Cuarth, Rhodogeidio


GRIFFITHS, Henry Head Married M 53 1808 Agricultural Labourer
Llanfachraeth, Anglesey VIEW
GRIFFITHS, Catharine Wife Married F 50 1811
Llechcynfarwydd, Anglesey VIEW
GRIFFITHS, Henry Son Unmarried M 17 1844 Shoemaker
Coedana, Anglesey VIEW
GRIFFITHS, John Son M 10 1851
Llechcynfarwydd, Anglesey

hello
sorry to impose yet again
you found Henry and Catherine Griffiths for me in the 1851 census
Henry born in 1809 Llanfachreth Anglesey
Catherine his wife born in Llanchymedd
would anybody look on 1861 census for me for the same family
hope I am not being to cheeky
thank you so much

Reggie thank you for the information

freebmd is a transcription of BMD records taken from the GRO index

The GRO came into being in July 1837

Before that date, there was no civil registration............only parish records.

Something else you must take into account.............

............until 1875, there were no penalties for not registering births.....hence, many births were simply not recorded.

sorry reply late but first I could not get on genes reunited then I put my posyt on about 6 times no idea why maybe something up with my compuor
will have to ask grandson to look at it for me

Chris
thank you so much
that looks promising as I am led to believe John Griffiths was born in llanerchmedd Anglesey
and his date of birth is 1851
how do you find all this out
I looked on free bmd and could not get back further than about 1837ish
once again many thanks for the information and your time

Keith Report 4 Jul 2013 13:38
Hello it is me again
I have looked of the freeBMD (I am learning) for John Griffiths born 1851 Anglesey
I can find John Griffiths but the fathers name is not Henry
I cannot find a John with a father named Henry
could somebody else look for me to see if it is there and I am not seeing it
thank you so much


(not sure if below)

1851
GRIFFITH, Henry Head Married M 42 1809 Labourer
Llanfachreth, Anglesey
GRIFFITH, Cathrine Wife Married F 39 1812
Llanerchymedd, Anglesey
GRIFFITH, Jane Daughter F 15 1836
Coedana, Anglesey
GRIFFITH, Cathrine Daughter F 13 1838
Bodwrog, Anglesey
GRIFFITH, Henry Son M 7 1844
Coedana, Anglesey
GRIFFITH, Hugh Son M 4 1847
Llanerchymedd, Anglesey
GRIFFITH, John Son M 0 (4 MOS) 1851
Llanerchymedd, Anglesey
Piece: 2520
Folio: 448
Page: 5
Registration District: Anglesey
Civil Parish: Llechgwenferwydd
Municipal Borough:
Address: High Street, Llechgwenferwydd
County: Anglesey

Chris :)

(looking on below for Birth Cert., a choice!)

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

(if any help with 1872 Marriage, folks)

Grooms Last Name:Griffiths
Grooms First Name:John (Bachelor) (Labourer)
Grooms Fathers First Name:Henry (Labourer)
Grooms Fathers Last Name:Griffiths
Grooms Parish:
Grooms Age:21
Brides Last Name:Roberts
Brides First Name:Mary (Spinster)
Brides Fathers First Name:Owen (Labourer)
Brides Fathers Last Name:Roberts
Brides Parish:
Brides Age:19
County:Anglesey
Place / Parish:Holyhead
Marriage Year:1872
Marriage Month:Oct
Marriage Day:1
Record source:Anglesey Marriages - Transcripts
Data provider:Welsh Archive Services / Gwasanaethau Archifau Cymru

(witnesses, Owen Roberts, William Hughes. Residence at time for both, Holyhead)

Chris :)

1911
GRIFFITH, John Head Married M 61 1850 General Labourer Anglesey Llanerchymedd
GRIFFITH, Mary Wife Married38 years F 57 1854 Anglesey Holyhead
GRIFFITH, Hugh Son Single M 22 1889 Ship Fireman Anglesey Holyhead
GRIFFITH, William Son Single M 19 1892 Farm Labourer Anglesey Holyhead
GRIFFITH, Annie Daughter Single F 17 1894 Domestic Servant Anglesey Holyhead
GRIFFITH, Nell Daughter Single F 15 1896 Anglesey Holyhead
MOON, Richard Clement Grandson M 0 (8 MONTHS) 1911 Warrington
RG number: RG14
Piece: 34616
Reference: RG14PN34616 RG78PN2005 RD634 SD3 ED1 SN11
Registration District: Holyhead
Sub District: Holyhead
Enumeration District: 1
Parish: Holyhead Rural
Address: Fron Mountain Holyhead
County: Anglesey

1911 (adding Jane below)
HODSON, Henry Wilson Head Married M 47 1864 Brewery Manager Burton on Trent Straffs
HODSON, Ellem Selina Wife Married20 years F 48 1863 Garat Dunmow Essex
HODSON, Edward Wilson Son Single M 19 1892 Bank Clerk Burton on Trent Staffs
GRIFFITHS, Jane Servant Single F 22 1889 General Servant Domestic Vron Mountain Anglesey
RG number: RG14
Piece: 22416
Reference: RG14PN22416 RG78PN1322 RD455 SD5 ED10 SN290
Registration District: West Derby
Sub District: Bootle
Enumeration District: 10
Parish: Bootle cum Linacre
Address: 18 Oriel Road Bootle
County: Lancashire

Deaths Mar 1925 (>99%)
-------------------------------------------------
Griffith John 75 Holyhead 11b 728
Griffith John 74 Holyhead 11b 721


Burials (Find My Past)
Last name:Griffith
First Name:John
County:Anglesey
Place / Parish:Holyhead
Age:74
Burial Year:1925
Burial Month:Jan
Burial Day:23
Record source:Anglesey Burials - Transcripts
Data provider:Welsh Archive Services / Gwasanaethau Archifau Cymru
(abode, Fron, The Mountain, Holyhead)


Deaths Mar 1936 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------
Griffiths Mary 82 Holyhead 11b 699


Burial
Last name:Griffiths
First Name:Mary
County:Anglesey
Place / Parish:Holyhead
Age:82
Burial Year:1936
Burial Month:Mar
Burial Day:31
(abode, Fron Mountain, Holyhead)


England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 (Ancestry)

Name: John Griffiths
Probate Date: 5 Mar 1925
Death Date: 17 Jan 1925
Death Place: Anglesey, Staffordshire, England
Registry: Bangor
(of 1, Fron Mountain, Holyhead. Probate to Hugh Griffiths Boatman. Efffects £166)

Yes my grandad's sister was "Aunty Molly"....Mary Elizabeth :-)

and my cousin John married a Dianne.....spent ages looking for them only to search on the surnames only to find John and Dianne were both middle names!

Jude

I always remembered by Mum talking of her "Auntie Millie" (so I looked for Millicent) - No, she turned out to have been "Mary Elizabeth".

no problem Keith - as they say we have all been there - worn out the t-shirt even!

No need to beat yourself up............it's a thing everyone has done ..........at least once

Just remember not to trust family 'stories'............lol!

The names b y which people are 'known' often bear no relation to their given names.

My late sister-in-law was 'Molly' to everyone who knew her.................it wasn't until she died that I found she was actually Irene Lucy!

thanks I feel such a fool
I will make sure I have the certificates in future before I take anything as the facts
I questioned family and was really sent the wrong way ..nobodys fault but my own
my aunt says well she was always known as Maggie and that is short for Margaret
that will teach me
the cap is really nice I had an uncle who played Rugby for Warrington Wires (they are the Wolves now

Keith - we ENJOY this ha ha! And we've all been down the wrong alley I'll bet :-)

oh bless you all for still talking to me after my major mistakes
thanks for the information :-)

1891


Name Age
John Griffith 42 - coal heaver
Mary Griffith 34
John Richard Griffith 13
Margaret Griffith 11
Kate Griffith 9
Mary Griffith 7
Lizzie Griffith 5
Jane Griffith 3
Hugh Griffith 1

looking at the image for that 1881 of Potty's it has been mis-transcribed
should be all one household
Owen Roberts Head - widower
John Griffith - son-in-law
etc

1881 - John's relationship is odd because the Head of the household has transcribed separately, he is Owen Roberts:

1881 Wales Census
about John Griffith
Name:John Griffith
Age:30
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1851
Relation:
Son in Law (Head) (Head)
Where born:Llanerchymedd, Anglesey, Wales
Street Address:
Vron Village

Occupation:Fireman On Steamboat
Registration District:
Anglesey

Sub-registration District:
Holyhead

ED, institution, or vessel:10

John Griffith 30
Mary Griffith 26
Owen Griffith 8
Henry Griffith 5
John Richard Griffith 3
Margaret Griffith 1

1881 Wales Census
Name:Owen Roberts
Age:60
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1821
Relation:Head
born:Holyhead, Anglesey, Wales
Civil Parish:Holyhead
County/Island:Anglesey
Country:Wales

Street Address:Vron Village

Condition as to marriage:Widow

Occupation:Farm Labourer
Age

Owen Roberts 60

Possible marriage:

Marriages Dec 1872 (>99%)
GRIFFITHS John Anglesey 11b 1091
Roberts Mary Anglesey 11b 1091

The family in 1901:

1901 Wales Census
about Lizzie Griffiths
Name:Lizzie Griffiths
Age in 1901:15
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1886
Relation:Daughter
Father's Name:John Griffiths
Mother's Name:Mary Griffiths
Gender:Female
Where born:Anglesea, Holyhead

ivil Parish:Holyhead
Ecclesiastical parish:Holyhead St Cybi and St Seiriol
John Griffiths 48
Mary Griffiths 46
Owen Griffiths 28
John R Griffiths 25
Mary Griffiths 17
Lizzie Griffiths 15
Jane Griffiths 13
Hugh Griffiths 11
William Griffiths 9
Annie Griffiths 7
Ellen Griffiths 4