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New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 Look up

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MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 19 Jun 2013 23:28

Sheer luck Ian - I only found it by googling, I'd never heard of it before tonight! :-)

Ian

Ian Report 19 Jun 2013 22:59

WOW marieceleste that link is magic thank you so much for that

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 19 Jun 2013 22:46

The Stanley peninsula is on the south east side of Hong Kong.

The Stanley camp is written about here:
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=n3BvnhsnOngC&pg=PA38&lpg=PA38&dq=%22camp+stanley%22+hong+kong&source=bl&ots=VYccMzednb&sig=RMvGvohUSUVipFWo5wK1LBisYD8&hl=en&sa=X&ei=vSXCUdP9FYWThgejnIDICg&ved=0CC8Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=%22camp%20stanley%22%20hong%20kong&f=false

Ian

Ian Report 19 Jun 2013 22:41

Hi
I thought this was shanghai

CAMP STANLEY DIARY JANUARY 1945
19th JAN
Yesterday's paper says (re 16th) that 'over 10 bombs' were released at Stanley and killed 15 internees and wounded 34. (Who are the 34 wounded no one knows!)
Paper also says 'there have been painted white crosses, an international symbol representing 'no attack' on the roofs of the buildings.' - We are all looking for the white crosses!

Mr. C.F, Livesey died. and Mrs. K. Martin (wife of Rev. Martin) died about tiffin time.

Air raid alarm but no planes, though we heard one heavy one come over in the night.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 19 Jun 2013 22:39

I wonder if this is Charles' wife?

New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957

Name: Lucy Livesey
Arrival Date: 20 Jan 1931
Birth Date: abt 1888
Birth Location: China
Birth Location Other: foochas
Age: 42 Years 9 Months
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality: British (English)
Port of Departure: Southampton, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Bremen

She was a married nurse en route to Shanghai via San Francisco, staying 2 weeks in USA and headed to the Pennsylvania Hotel, NYC.
Her passage was paid by her employer Mr H E Harris of 467 Kiangse Road, Shanghai. She was travelling with his brother John Edward along with his wife and child.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 19 Jun 2013 22:27

... and I posted Frederick C's death on page 1

Ian

Ian Report 19 Jun 2013 22:26

Hi
Edward George Livesey is the family line I am researching he died in the UK
John Livesey died at sea navy 1940 ship was bombed
Ian

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 19 Jun 2013 22:18

These are possible children of Charles and Lucy:

LIVESEY Edward G China Shanghai 1911-1915
LIVESEY Frederick C China Shanghai 1911-1915
LIVESEY Harriet L China Shanghai 1911-1915
LIVESEY John China Shanghai 1916-1920

There are no actual years given

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 19 Jun 2013 22:08

Ian - where do you get the name John from? I'd buy the certificate to be sure.

I think Charles died Hong Kong, not Shanghai. He was buried Hong Kong as per the notice I posted on the first page.

This is a list of internees from Hong Kong War Diary - scroll down until you find him. The ISH after his name indicated he was interned room 403 Stag Hotel.
http://www.hongkongwardiary.com/searchgarrison/nonuniformedcivilians.html#_Toc43367491

Ian

Ian Report 19 Jun 2013 21:58

Hi
I have found the marriage certificate for Charles he married a Lucy Young Becke 1910 Shanghai his father details ? maybe John Livesey
Ian

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 19 Jun 2013 21:58

Ian, I never bother registering, I just go straight to the search. You don't need to subscribe.

You could buy his marriage certificate from GRO to see what details he gives for his father.

Ian

Ian Report 19 Jun 2013 21:53

Hi MarieCeleste
I could never find any parents for Charles Frederick Livesey b 1886 Hong Kong any ideas on this one I have been looking for ages

I have just tried to join Ellis Island it will not take any pass word for me to register
Ian

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 19 Jun 2013 21:53

I guess you already have his marriage?

Overseas registration event: Marriage

MarriageFinder: Charles F Livesey married Lucy Y Becke

Name: LIVESEY, Charles F
Consulate: Shanghai
Country: China
Year: 1906-1910
Volume:
Page: 481
Spouse's last name: Not stated
Record source: GRO Consular Marriages (1849-1965)

Name: BECKE, Lucy Y
County: China
Year: 1906
Volume :
Page 481
Spouse's last name Not stated
Record source: GRO Consular Marriages (1849-1965)

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 19 Jun 2013 21:51

Possible he had a young son die in China:

Overseas registration event: Death

Name: LIVESEY, Frederick C
Consulate: Shanghai
Country: China
Year: 1911-1915
Volume: 13
Page: 240
Age at death: 2
Record source: GRO Consular Death Indices (1849 to 1965)

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 19 Jun 2013 21:49

Ian, how have you connected to these people? What else do you already know about them and what are you hoping to find?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 19 Jun 2013 21:44

Ian, that girl was born Barnoldswick, England and was the daughter of James and Jane. Sorry.

Another record for Charles

UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name: Charles Livesey
Birth Date: abt 1886
Age: 46
Port of Departure: Yokohama, Japan
Arrival Date: 4 Mar 1932
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Kobe [Shanghai] [Colombo] [Bombay] [Plymouth]
Ship Name: Chitral
Shipping Line: Peninsula and Orient Steam Navigation Company Ltd
Official Number: 148861

Engineer, lived in China.

Ian

Ian Report 19 Jun 2013 21:37

Hi thank you for your fab help with my research. Would this be his daughter Harriet Lucy


New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Immigration & Traval

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Name: Lucy Livesey
Birth: year - location
Departure: city
Arrival: date - New York, New York
Residence: location

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 19 Jun 2013 21:36

Web: International, Find A Grave Index
Name: Charles Frederick Livesey
Death Date: 19 Jan 1945
Burial Place: Pok Fu Lam, Hong Kong Island, Hong Kong

Commonwealth War Graves Commission has him as age 59 at death so that's consistent with that passenger list.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 19 Jun 2013 21:29

Ian, I was referring to the death of John Howard Harrison being on an Ancestry tree.

ADDED:
You can search New York arrivals between 1892 and 1924 for free on Ellis Island
http://www.ellisisland.org/

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 19 Jun 2013 21:27

New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957

Name: Charles Fred Livesey
Arrival Date: 19 Nov 1919
Birth Date: abt 1885
Birth Location: Hong Kong
Birth Location Other: victoria
Age: 34
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: English
Port of Departure: London,eng
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Airline: Minnekahda
Ship Name: Minnekahda

He was a marine engineer. Had been living in Erith, Kent.

Next of kin from where he'd departed was Mrs CH Livesey, 6 Queens Riad, Erith, Kent.