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17 Jun 2013 20:22 |
I wonder if anyone could offer me information on my 3rd gen Grandfather William Weldrick (1816). He was married to Hannah Hall (1818) and they had a child Eliza(1840) who married Joseph Middleton (1833). I believe all were born in Hull, Yorkshire.
I have gained this information off various trees but don't seem to be able to move any further.
Any ideas?
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MarieCeleste
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17 Jun 2013 20:30 |
Hello Melanie, have you found them on any census?
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Fredk
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17 Jun 2013 20:31 |
I think you may have a date wrong,Eliza (1840) could not of married in 1833
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17 Jun 2013 20:32 |
Unfortunately not, could you recommend anywhere else to look?
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Christine
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17 Jun 2013 20:32 |
Fred'k
I think she means her husband was born in 1833.
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17 Jun 2013 20:34 |
Sorry, that was probably misleading I meant Joseph was born in that year.
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17 Jun 2013 20:35 |
Christine, Thanks for clearing that up
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17 Jun 2013 20:39 |
Reg. District: Beverley Sub District: Beverley Parish: St Mary Enum. District: 13C Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Beverley Address: Wood Lane, St Mary, Beverley County: Yorkshire (East riding) Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born WELDRAKE, William Head M 32 1819 Agricultural Labourer Beverley, Yorkshire WELDRAKE, Hannah Wife F 35 1816 Beverley, Yorkshire WELDRAKE, Eliza Daughter F 10 1841 Scholar Beverley, Yorkshire WELDRAKE, Elizabeth Daughter F 6 1845 Beverley, Yorkshire WELDRAKE, Sally Daughter F 4 1847 Beverley, Yorkshire WELDRAKE, Fanny Daughter F 2 1849 Beverley, Yorkshire
1851 census.
Weldrake on image and correct family going on names and circa dates of birth
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17 Jun 2013 20:39 |
Melanie, is any of this information from other trees substantiated with certificates or copies of parish records?
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FannyByGaslight
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17 Jun 2013 20:41 |
I did wonder if Melanie had done any looking on sites for census and baptism and such at all MC... Fans
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17 Jun 2013 20:42 |
It clearly was not substantiated Marie, as another member has just offered me the above information with a different spelling of the name (thank you fanny).
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17 Jun 2013 20:48 |
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Household Information Street COBDENS PLACE Parish SCULCOATES Town City HULL County Yorkshire, Yorkshire (East Riding) Country ENGLAND Ecclesiastical District Enumeration District 22 Municipal Ward SCULCOATES, WEST Parliamentary Borough HULL Registration District SCULCOATES Category Census, Land & Surveys Record set 1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Person 1 First Name JOSEPH Last Name MIDDLETON Birth Year 1833 Age 38 Birth Place Birth Town Birth County YORKSHIRE Gender M Relationship To Head of Household HEAD Occupation Condition Collections from Great Britain Archive Reference RG10 Folio 63 Page 8 Piece Number 4785 Person 2 First Name ELIZA Last Name MIDDLETON Birth Year 1841 Age 30 Birth Place Birth Town Birth County YORKSHIRE Gender F Relationship To Head of Household WIFE Occupation Condition Collections from Great Britain Archive Reference RG10 Folio 63 Page 8 Piece Number 4785 Person 3 First Name MINNIE Last Name MIDDLETON Birth Year 1861 Age 10 Birth Place Birth Town Birth County YORKSHIRE Gender F Relationship To Head of Household DAUGHTER Occupation Condition Collections from Great Britain Archive Reference RG10 Folio 63 Page 8 Piece Number 4785 Person 4 First Name JOHN Last Name MIDDLETON Birth Year 1864 Age 7 Birth Place Birth Town Birth County YORKSHIRE Gender M Relationship To Head of Household SON Occupation Condition Collections from Great Britain Archive Reference RG10 Folio 63 Page 8 Piece Number 4785 Person 5 First Name GEORGE Last Name MIDDLETON Birth Year 1868 Age 3 Birth Place Birth Town Birth County YORKSHIRE Gender M Relationship To Head of Household SON Occupation Condition Collections from Great Britain Archive Reference RG10 Folio 63 Page 8 Piece Number 4785 Person 6 First Name JOSEPH Last Name MIDDLETON Birth Year 1869 Age 2 Birth Place Birth Town Birth County YORKSHIRE Gender M Relationship To Head of Household SON Occupation Condition Collections from Great Britain Archive Reference RG10 Folio 63 Page 8 Piece Number 4785
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17 Jun 2013 20:48 |
Marriage of William & Hannah?
Marriages Sep 1840 BAINTON Mary Beverley 23 4 Bott Bridget Beverley 23 4 DAKERS Theodore Robert Beverley 23 4 Northgraves William Beverley 23 4 PICKARD Jane Beverley 23 4 PICKARD John Beverley 23 4 WELDRICK William Beverley 23 4 <<< WOODCOCK Hannah Beverley 23 4 <<<
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
Hannah does not appear to be a Hannah Hall as thought?
(or have we changed tack now? I can't keep up!)
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FannyByGaslight
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17 Jun 2013 20:49 |
Thanks MC..
Reg. District: Beverley Sub District: Beverley Parish: St Mary Beverley Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Beverley Address: Wood Lane, St Mary Beverley, Beverley County: Yorkshire Name Relation Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born WHELDRAKE, William M 20 1821 Yorkshire WHELDRAKE, Hannah F 20 1821 WHELDRAKE, Eliza F 0 (10 months) 1841 ARDEN, Fanny F 25 1816 Yorkshire
1841... Both FMP and Ancestry have the same spelling of surname..
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FannyByGaslight
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17 Jun 2013 20:51 |
So do..familysearch.org
Which is a free site to search for census as well as many other things..
Name: William Wheldrake Event Type: Census Event Date: 1841 Gender: Male Age: 20 Birthplace: Yorkshire Schedule Type: Household Registration District: Beverley Sub-District: Beverley Parish: St Mary Beverley County: Yorkshire
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17 Jun 2013 20:53 |
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Household Information Street JOHNS TERRACE Parish SCULCOATES Town City KINGSTON UPON HULL County Yorkshire, Yorkshire (East Riding) Country ENGLAND Ecclesiastical District ALL SAINTS Enumeration District 7 Municipal Ward PARK Parliamentary Borough WEST HULL Registration District SCULCOATES Category Census, Land & Surveys Record set 1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Collections from Great Britain Person 1 First Name JOSEPH Last Name MIDDLETON Birth Year 1833 Age 58 Birth County YORKSHIRE Birth Town Birth Place Relationship To Head of Household HEAD Gender M Occupation TAILOR Condition MARRIED Archive Reference RG12 Folio 15 Page 24 Piece Number 3929 Person 2 First Name ELIZA Last Name MIDDLETON Birth Year 1840 Age 51 Birth County YORKSHIRE Birth Town Birth Place Relationship To Head of Household WIFE Gender F Occupation Condition MARRIED Archive Reference RG12 Folio 15 Page 24 Piece Number 3929 Person 3 First Name GEORGE Last Name MIDDLETON Birth Year 1868 Age 23 Birth County YORKSHIRE Birth Town Birth Place Relationship To Head of Household SON Gender M Occupation POSTMAN Condition SINGLE Archive Reference RG12 Folio 15 Page 24 Piece Number 3929 Person 4 First Name ANNIE Last Name MIDDLETON Birth Year 1875 Age 16 Birth County YORKSHIRE Birth Town Birth Place Relationship To Head of Household DAUGHTER Gender F Occupation Condition SINGLE Archive Reference RG12 Folio 15 Page 24 Piece Number 3929 Person 5 First Name ARTHUR Last Name MIDDLETON Birth Year 1878 Age 13 Birth County YORKSHIRE Birth Town Birth Place Relationship To Head of Household SON Gender M Occupation ERRAND BOY Condition Archive Reference RG12 Folio 15 Page 24 Piece Number 3929 Person 6 First Name CHARLES Last Name MIDDLETON Birth Year 1883 Age 8 Birth County YORKSHIRE Birth Town Birth Place Relationship To Head of Household SON Gender M Occupation SCHOLAR Condition Archive Reference RG12 Folio 15 Page 24 Piece Number 3929
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17 Jun 2013 20:58 |
No it does seem funny Christine. There are also so may variations of the spelling for the Weldrick surname. Fredk, you have also found something as I know my great Grandmothers name was Minnie.
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FannyByGaslight
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17 Jun 2013 21:02 |
It is far better to do your own research and get certificates along the way to be sure of the right road....I have seen some total and utter balderdash on peoples trees...Even concerning my own family which I can verify with certs and much data...But if they wish to put any old rubbish down on their tree then let them get on with it,at least I know I am correct on mine....
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17 Jun 2013 21:05 |
1861 makes Minnie a grandaughter to William and Hannah so she must be an elder daughters illigit child I would think...
Reg. District: Beverley Sub District: 2 Beverley Parish: St Mary Enum. District: 5 Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Beverley Address: Wood Lane, St Mary, Beverley County: Yorkshire (East riding) Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born WELDRICK, William Head Married M 41 1820 Groom Beverley, Yorkshire WELDRICK, Hannah Wife Married F 44 1817 Grooms Wife Louth, Lincolnshire WELDRICK, Emily Daughter Unmarried F 14 1847 Scholar Beverley, Yorkshire WELDRICK, Alice Daughter Unmarried F 10 1851 Scholar Beverley, Yorkshire WELDRICK, John William Son Unmarried M 6 1855 Scholar Beverley, Yorkshire WELDRICK, Minnie Granddaughter Unmarried F 1 1860 Beverley, Yorkshire
So a generation seems to have been skipped...????
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17 Jun 2013 21:10 |
And two choices for Minnies birth
WELDRICK Minnie England Yorkshire, Beverley 1859 VIEW
WHELDRICK Minnie England Yorkshire, Beverley 1858 VIEW
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