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Deborah
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16 Jun 2013 14:44 |
Hi I have been on here for a few months now and I am really stuck. I am trying to trace my grandfathers ancestry. I have his father and mothers names and I think I have found his grandfather...but when I try to do more indepth searches I just hit a blank.......I have gathered as much info as I can from an aunt but all other relatives are not around anymore. I am becoming really frustrated...can anyone help please? Yours gratefully Deborah Claxton :-S :-S
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16 Jun 2013 14:47 |
I am sure we could help if only we had some names and dates etc. but without any info I am afraid it is an impossible task ! :-(
Can you tell us what info you have and what you are looking for please and we can take a look?
Dea x
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16 Jun 2013 14:48 |
Deborah, if you give some more info we may be able to help. Who was your grandfather? Where and when was he born? What were his parents' names? If you have found him on any census please post the details.
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MarieCeleste
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16 Jun 2013 15:06 |
Hello Deborah, welcome to the boards.
As stated, we can certainly try to help and also give you some pointers as to how to get the best out of your research. :-)
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Fredk
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16 Jun 2013 15:23 |
As Dea,Potty and Marie have said a little more information and then we may be able to help
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Deborah
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16 Jun 2013 15:32 |
wow you guys are fantastic....ok here goes: john(AKA Jack) cowburn born 1919 in hindley and died in 1974 in Fulham he was married to Norah Hallissey from Cork, his father was Thomas Cowburn and he married someone called Annie Moorfield (but my aunt said she thought her grand mother was Mary?), i always knew there was a family secret and it seem Annie has a child called Willie Moorfield born 1911 in wigan but not to Thomas. My Grandfather had a brother called Joseph who I believe was born in 1921 in Hindley Wigan...and a sister called Betty (who I believe lived with her half brother Billy as man and wife)...I also have an address where my grandfather parents used to live ...4 Gibbons Court, Ellesmere Street, Hindley Wigan. I am so stuck......I dont have any family as such to ask...my mother was murdered when I was 25 and i only have an aunt and she doesnt know too much...any help would be so gratefully received. xxxxxxxxx :-)
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Deborah
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16 Jun 2013 15:33 |
I apologise beforehand if its all muffled....is there anyway I can give you access to my tree?
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PricklyHolly
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16 Jun 2013 15:43 |
Births Jun 1919 (>99%) Cowburn John Moorfield Wigan 8c 91
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Andrew
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16 Jun 2013 15:44 |
For ref marriage for Thomas and Annie
Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Mar 1916 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cowburn Thomas Moorfield Wigan 8c 51 Moorfield Annie Cowburn Wigan 8c 51
1911 census for Annie with son Willie
1911 England Census about Annie Moorfield Name:Annie Moorfield Age in 1911:19 Estimated Birth Year:abt 1892 Relation to Head:Daughter Gender:Female Birth Place: Hindley, Lancashire, England Civil Parish:Hindley County/Island:Lancashire Country: England >>>>>>>>>>>>>Street Address:5 Gibson Court Ellesmere St <<<<<< Marital Status:Single Occupation:Mill (Weaver) Registration District:Wigan Registration District Number:458 Sub-registration District:Hindley ED, institution, or vessel:11 Piece:23026 Household Members: Name Age Ann Cowely 50 Annie Moorfield 19 Rachael Moorfield 17 Marg L Moorfield 15 James Moorfield 13 Willie Moorfield 8/12 Ann Cowely
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16 Jun 2013 15:45 |
for ref
Marriages Mar 1916 (>99%)
Cowburn Thomas Moorfield Wigan 8c 51 Moorfield Annie Cowburn Wigan 8c 51
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PricklyHolly
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16 Jun 2013 15:46 |
Marriages Mar 1916 (>99%) Cowburn Thomas Moorfield Wigan 8c 51 Moorfield Annie Cowburn Wigan 8c 51
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16 Jun 2013 15:48 |
Marriage: 22 Jan 1916 All Saints, Hindley, Lancashire, England Thomas Cowburn - 24, Collier, Bachelor, 3 Dogpool Atherton Rd Annie Moorfield - 24, Spinster, 5 Gibson's Court Bride's Father: William Moorfield, Miner Witness: Henry Williams; Mary Ellen Mason, (X) Married by Banns by: C.J. Buckmaster Vicar Register: Marriages 1916 - 1924, Page 2, Entry 3 Source: LDS Film 93751
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16 Jun 2013 15:51 |
1911 address matches marriage
1911 England Census about Thomas Cowburn Name: Thomas Cowburn Age in 1911: 19 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892 Relation to Head: Son Gender: Male Birth Place: Hindley, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Hindley County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address: 3 Dog Pool Off Atherton Rd Hindley Marital Status: Single Occupation: Labourer In Coal Mine (below Ground) Registration District: Wigan Registration District Number: 458 Sub-registration District: Hindley ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Piece: 23025 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Holcroft 45 Elizabeth Holcroft 45 Thomas Cowburn 19 <<<<<<<<< Harry S Holcroft 13 John Holcroft 10 Richard Holcroft 9 Mary Ellen Holcroft 7 Clarice Holcroft 3
Thomas is listed as son so possibly from mother's previous marriage?
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Deborah
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16 Jun 2013 15:52 |
thank you thank you thank you xxxx
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PricklyHolly
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16 Jun 2013 15:54 |
Household transcription 1911 census Person: COWBURN, Thomas Address: 3 Dog Pool Off Atherton Road Hindley
HOLCROFT, Thomas Head Married13 years M 45 1866 Colliery Fireman Below Ground Hindley Lancashire VIEW HOLCROFT, Elizabeth Wife Married F 45 1866 Hindley Lancashire VIEW COWBURN, Thomas Son Single M 19 1892 Labourer Coal Mine Below Ground Hindley Lancashire VIEW HOLCROFT, Harry S Son Single M 13 1898 Haulage Handf Below Ground Hindley Lancashire VIEW HOLCROFT, John Son Single M 10 1901 School Hindley Lancashire VIEW HOLCROFT, Richard Son Single M 9 1902 School Hindley Lancashire VIEW HOLCROFT, Mary Ellen Daughter Single F 7 1904 School Hindley Lancashire VIEW HOLCROFT, Clarice Daughter Single F 3 1908 School Hindley Lancashire VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 23025 Reference: RG14PN23025 RG78PN1346 RD458 SD4 ED10 SN154 Registration District: Wigan Sub District: Hindley Enumeration District: 10 Parish: Hindley Address: 3 Dog Pool Off Atherton Road Hindley County: Lancashire
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16 Jun 2013 15:54 |
Elizabeth Cowburn's marriage to T Holcroft
Marriages Dec 1897 (>99%) Cowburn Elizabeth Wigan 8c 27 Holcroft Thomas Wigan 8c 27
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16 Jun 2013 15:55 |
1901 England Census about Thomas Cowburn Name: Thomas Cowburn Age: 9 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892 Relation: Son Father's Name: Thomas Holcroft Mother's Name: Elizabeth Holcroft Gender: Male Where born: Hindley, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Hindley Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints Town: Hindley County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration District: Wigan Sub-registration District: Hindley ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 209 Piece: 3561 Folio: 24 Page Number: 40 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Holcroft 35 Elizabeth Holcroft 35 Thomas Cowburn 9 Henry S Holcroft 3 Johb Holcroft 10 Months
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16 Jun 2013 15:56 |
details of marriage for father's name for Elizabeth
Marriage: 9 Oct 1897 All Saints, Hindley, Lancashire, England
Thomas Holcroft - 32, Collier, Bachelor, 5 Atherton Rd Elizabeth Cowburn - (X), 32, Spinster, 99 Bridgewater St
Groom's Father: Thomas Holcroft, Deceased Bride's Father: Thomas Cowburn, Deceased Witness: Richard Henry Southern; Annie Gerrard Married by Banns by: Fred. W. Johnstone, Curate Register: Marriages 1891 - 1899, Page 201, Entry 401 Source: LDS Film 93751
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Deborah
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16 Jun 2013 15:56 |
I am trying to find out who Thomas's Mother and father were? Thank you for the rest of the information...I did have some of it but not all...most appreciated. :-D
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16 Jun 2013 15:57 |
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1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Household Information Address 3 DOG POOL OFF ATHERTON ROAD HINDLEY Parish HINDLEY County Lancashire Country ENGLAND Ecclesiastical District Enumeration District 10 Registration District WIGAN Registration District Number 458 SubDistrict Number 4 Category Census, Land & Surveys Record set 1911 Census for England & Wales Collections from Great Britain Person 1 First Name THOMAS Last Name HOLCROFT Birth Year 1866 Age 45 Where Born HINDLEY LANCASHIRE Relationship To Head of Household HEAD Gender M Condition MARRIED Year Of Marriage 1898 Years Of Marriage 13 Occupation COLLIERY FIREMAN BELOW GROUND Military Info Census Reference RG14PN23025 RG78PN1346 RD458 SD4 ED10 SN154 Archive Reference RG14 Folio Page Piece Number 23025 Person 2 First Name ELIZABETH Last Name HOLCROFT Birth Year 1866 Age 45 Where Born HINDLEY LANCASHIRE Relationship To Head of Household WIFE Gender F Condition MARRIED Year Of Marriage Years Of Marriage Occupation Military Info Census Reference RG14PN23025 RG78PN1346 RD458 SD4 ED10 SN154 Archive Reference RG14 Folio Page Piece Number 23025 Person 3 First Name HARRY S Last Name HOLCROFT Birth Year 1898 Age 13 Where Born HINDLEY LANCASHIRE Relationship To Head of Household SON Gender M Condition SINGLE Year Of Marriage Years Of Marriage Occupation HAULAGE HANDF BELOW GROUND Military Info Census Reference RG14PN23025 RG78PN1346 RD458 SD4 ED10 SN154 Archive Reference RG14 Folio Page Piece Number 23025 Person 4 First Name JOHN Last Name HOLCROFT Birth Year 1901 Age 10 Where Born HINDLEY LANCASHIRE Relationship To Head of Household SON Gender M Condition SINGLE Year Of Marriage Years Of Marriage Occupation SCHOOL Military Info Census Reference RG14PN23025 RG78PN1346 RD458 SD4 ED10 SN154 Archive Reference RG14 Folio Page Piece Number 23025 Person 5 First Name RICHARD Last Name HOLCROFT Birth Year 1902 Age 9 Where Born HINDLEY LANCASHIRE Relationship To Head of Household SON Gender M Condition SINGLE Year Of Marriage Years Of Marriage Occupation SCHOOL Military Info Census Reference RG14PN23025 RG78PN1346 RD458 SD4 ED10 SN154 Archive Reference RG14 Folio Page Piece Number 23025 Person 6 First Name MARY ELLEN Last Name HOLCROFT Birth Year 1904 Age 7 Where Born HINDLEY LANCASHIRE Relationship To Head of Household DAUGHTER Gender F Condition SINGLE Year Of Marriage Years Of Marriage Occupation SCHOOL Military Info Census Reference RG14PN23025 RG78PN1346 RD458 SD4 ED10 SN154 Archive Reference RG14 Folio Page Piece Number 23025 Person 7 First Name CLARICE Last Name HOLCROFT Birth Year 1908 Age 3 Where Born HINDLEY LANCASHIRE Relationship To Head of Household DAUGHTER Gender F Condition SINGLE Year Of Marriage Years Of Marriage Occupation SCHOOL Military Info Census Reference RG14PN23025 RG78PN1346 RD458 SD4 ED10 SN154 Archive Reference RG14 Folio Page Piece Number 23025 Person 8 First Name THOMAS Last Name COWBURN Birth Year 1892 Age 19 Where Born HINDLEY LANCASHIRE Relationship To Head of Household SON Gender M Condition SINGLE Year Of Marriage Years Of Marriage Occupation LABOURER COAL MINE BELOW GROUND Military Info Census Reference RG14PN23025 RG78PN1346 RD458 SD4 ED10 SN154 Archive Reference RG14 Folio Page Piece Number 23025
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