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28 May 2013 23:38 |
My maternal grandfather was Albert Keoghoe b1889 in Bethnal Green. I had always understood he was Irish and born in Dublin. This was why no research had been done on him. My grandmother was Alice Maud Gladden b1893.
Since I have been on here with the Mackleworth threads, I found my grandfather easily enough. But I can't get back far enough to see if he was Irish in descent or not.
Can you tell me if there is an Irish connection or have I been fed blarney? :-D
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28 May 2013 23:47 |
Census 1891:
Address: 35, Punderson Gardens, Bethnal Green County: London
census 1891:
KEOGHOE, John Head Married M 33 1858 Cabinet Maker Bethnal Green, London <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< KEOGHOE, Sarah Wife Married F 30 1861 Bethnal Green, London KEOGHOE, William Son M 8 1883 Scholar Bethnal Green, London KEOGHOE, Emily Daughter F 7 1884 Scholar Bethnal Green, London KEOGHOE, Albert Son M 2 1889 Bethnal Green, London<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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28 May 2013 23:49 |
His father John with parents?
Census 1861:
Name: John Keoghal [John Keoghoe] Age: 1 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860 Relation: Son Father's Name: John Keoghal Mother's Name: Caroline Keoghal Gender: Male Where born: Bethnal Green Civil Parish: Bethnal Green Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew County/Island: Middlesex Country: England
John Keoghal 22 c1839 City - cabinet Caroline Keoghal 20 c1841 Bethnal Green John Keoghal 1 c1860 Bethnal Green
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28 May 2013 23:50 |
Marriage for John and Caroline?
Name: John Keoghoe - cabinet maker Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839 Age: 20 Spouse Name: Caroline Homewood Spouse Age: 18 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 26 Jun 1859 Parish: Bethnal Green St Andrew Borough: Tower Hamlets Father Name: William Keoghoe - cabinet maker Spouse Father Name: Joseph Homewood Register Type: Parish Register
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28 May 2013 23:58 |
Ancestry has this amended record for 1841, with a John with father named William.
it looks like Kieghoe on the image:
Both parents not born in County.
Children born Middlesex
Name: John Kieghee [John Keoghoe] Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839 Gender: Male Where born: Middlesex, England Civil Parish: St Leonard Shoreditch Hundred: Ossulstone (Tower Division) County/Island: Middlesex Country: England
Registration District: Shoreditch Sub-registration District: Hoxton New Town Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 707 Book: 8 Folio: 14 Page Number: 21
Household Members: Name Age
William Kieghee 25 cabinet maker<<<<<<<<< Maria Kieghee 20 William Kieghee 3 John Kieghee 2<<<<<<<<<<< Maria Kieghee 4 Mo
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29 May 2013 00:01 |
Same family 1861, Maria widowed. Not from Ireland
Name: Maria Kevghoe [Maria Keoghoe] Age: 47 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1814 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: St Peters Port, Germany [Guernsey?] Civil Parish: Bethnal Green Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Registration District: Bethnal Green Sub-registration District: Church ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 220 Piece: 258 Folio: 52 Page Number: 41 Household Members: Name Age Maria Kevghoe 47 William Kevghoe 23 Elizabeth Kevghoe 9 George Kevghoe 11 William Kevghoe 3 Maria Kevghoe 1
The two youngest children William & Maria are grandchildren.
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29 May 2013 00:07 |
Ancestry has this extremely mangled transcription for 1851, but to be fair, the image is so faint I don't know how they got anything out of it!
The head of the house is a cabinet maker and he and his wife are born Guernsey, the children are born Shoreditch
The first three children tally with the Keoghoe children from census 1841
Name: Emma Rogers [Maria Keoghoe] Age: 36 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Herman Rogers Gender: F (Female) Where born: Germany Civil Parish: Bethnal Green Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street Address:
Registration District: Bethnal Green Sub-registration District: Church ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 140 Piece: 1541 Folio: 79 Page Number: 36 Household Members: Name Age Herman Rogers 37 cabinet maker Guern sey [William] Emma Rogers 36 Guernsey [Maria?] William Rogers 13 John Rogers 12<<<<<< Maria Rogers 10 Jane Rogers 6 George Rogers 4 Elizabeth Rogers 6 Mo
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29 May 2013 00:11 |
Can anyone find a marriage for Albert's parents John and Sarah?
John is still single in 1881, living with mother Caroline:
Census 1881:
Address: 27, St Judes Street, Bethnal Green County: London, Middlesex
KEOGHE, Caroline Head Wife Married F 40 1841 KEOGHE, John Son Single M 22 1859 Cabinet Maker KEOGHE, William Son Single M 20 1861 Engineer (Artz)
EDIT: The image shows father John, cabinet maker, is with the family but has been missed off the transcription
I can find what looks like a second marriage for John junior in 1916, but not the first one to Sarah.
Name: John Keoghoe - widower cabinet maker Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860 Age: 56 Spouse Name: Alice Johnson- widow Spouse Age: 42 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 24 Apr 1916 Parish: Shoreditch St Leonard Borough: Hackney Father Name: John Keoghoe - deceased cabinet maker Spouse Father Name: George Davis- deceased table maker Register Type: Parish Register
EDIT: This looks like the death of first wife Sarah. Accorong to census 1891 posted earlier, she was born c1861:
Deaths Mar 1909 KEOGHOE Sarah 47 Bethnal G. 1c 148
I still can't find her marriage to John though.
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29 May 2013 00:19 |
Deaths of John senior and Caroline?
Name: John Keoghoe Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838 Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1913 Age at Death: 75 Registration District: Bethnal Green Inferred County: London Volume: 1c Page: 236
Name: Caroline Keoghoe Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842 Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1912 Age at Death: 70 Registration District: Bethnal Green Inferred County: London Volume: 1c Page: 259
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29 May 2013 00:36 |
Albert's marriage: it looks like Gladden on the image
Name: Alice Maud Slodden
[Alice Maud Gladden] Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893 Age: 22 Spouse Name: Albert Keoghoe - fitter? Spouse Age: 26 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 23 May 1915 Parish: Bethnal Green St Jude Borough: Tower Hamlets Father Name: William Slodden-boot laster Spouse Father Name: John Keoghoe- cabinet maker Register Type: Parish Register
Witnesses Catherine Gladden A Gladden
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29 May 2013 00:46 |
This is brilliant, Kucinta. The name is definitely Gladden. I never knew my grandad was a fitter. He was variously, a docker, a bare knuckle fighter, a worker in a small steel factory, a bookmaker.
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29 May 2013 00:53 |
I have found this marriage record, but it seems to be out of area. Does have father named John:
England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1940
Name: John Keoghoe Gender: Male Father's Name: John Keoghoe Spouse's Name: Sarah Ann Ford Spouse's Father's Name: James Ford Marriage Date: 9 Jul 1882 Marriage Place: Walthamstow, Essex, England
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29 May 2013 00:57 |
Hmmmmmmm!
Seems John was with Alice and her children a while before he got round to marrying her in 1916 as posted earlier:
Address: 11 Falkirk St Hoxton County: London
KEOGHOE, John Head Married M 50 1861 Cabinet Maker London Bethnal GN KEOGHOE, Alice Wife Married 2 years F 37 1874 London Bethnal GN JOHNSON, James Son Single M 16 1895 Chair And Couch Maker London Bethnal GN JOHNSON, Samuel Son M 14 1897 Wood Carver Carver London Bethnal GN JOHNSON, Caroline Daughter F 9 1902 School London Bethnal GN JOHNSON, Emily Daughter F 7 1904 School London Bethnal GN JOHNSON, Jessie Daughter F 2 1909 London Bethnal GN KEOGHOE, John Son M 3 1908 London Shoreditch
EDIT: On image son John looks like 3 months, not 3 years.
John with Sarah in 1901:
Address: 35, Punderson Gardens, Bethnal Green County: London
KEOGHOE, John Head Married M 41 1860 Cabinet Maker Bethnal Green, London KEOGHOE, Sarah Wife Married F 39 1862 Dalston, London KEOGHOE, Emily Daughter Single F 16 1885 Artificial Flower MakerBethnal Green, London KEOGHOE, Albert Son Single M 12 1889 Bethnal Green, London KEOGHOE, Alice Daughter Single F 2 1899 Bethnal Green, London
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29 May 2013 01:11 |
This looks like the baptism of Alice aged 2 in census 1901. In which case the Sarah Ann Ford marriage might well be correct.
Name: Alice Maud Keoghoe Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 23 Oct 1898 Father's Name: John Keoghoe Mother's Name: Sarah Ann Keoghoe Parish or Poor Law Union: Bethnal Green St Jude Borough: Tower Hamlets Register Type: Parish Registers
Father a cabinet maker. Address 35 Punderson Gardens
Sadly:
Name: Alice Maud Keoghoe Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899 Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1903 Age at Death: 4 Registration District: Whitechapel Inferred County: London Volume: 1c Page: 154
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29 May 2013 01:28 |
Marriage for Albert's sister Emily?
Name: Emily Eliza Keoghoe Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884 Age: 32 Spouse Name: Alfred George Snooks - cutter Spouse Age: 38 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 24 Apr 1916 Parish: Bethnal Green St Jude Borough: Tower Hamlets Father Name: John Keoghoe - cabinet maker Spouse Father Name: Henry Richard Snooks - mason Register Type: Parish Register
Alice Maud Keoghoe (nee Gladden?) a witness. her husband Albert might be the other - bad handwriting!
Name: Emily Eliza Keoghoe Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 27 Jun 1883 Father's Name: John Keoghoe Mother's Name: Sarah Keoghoe Parish or Poor Law Union: Bethnal Green St John Borough: Tower Hamlets Register Type: Parish Registers
Death (for date of birth)
Name: Emily Eliza Snooks Birth Date: 5 Jul 1884 Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1973 Age at Death: 89 Registration District: Hackney Inferred County: London Volume: 5b Page: 1314
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29 May 2013 01:34 |
Baptism for Albert:
Name: Albert Keoghoe Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 21 Apr 1889 Father's Name: John Keoghoe Mother's Name: Sarah Ann Keoghoe Parish or Poor Law Union: Bethnal Green St Jude Borough: Tower Hamlets Register Type: Parish Registers
Born March 29th 1889 according to image
Death: Name: Albert Keoghoe Birth Date: 27 Mar 1889 Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1969 Age at Death: 80 Registration District: Waltham Forest Inferred County: Greater London Volume: 5e Page: 773
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29 May 2013 01:40 |
Baptism for brother William:
Name: William John Keoghoe Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 11 Feb 1883 Father's Name: John Keoghoe Mother's Name: Sarah Keoghoe Parish or Poor Law Union: Bethnal Green St Jude Borough: Tower Hamlets Register Type: Parish Registers
Born Jan 15th 1883
Sadly:
Name: William John Keoghoe Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883 Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1900 Age at Death: 17 Registration District: Whitechapel Inferred County: London Volume: 1c Page: 175
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29 May 2013 02:08 |
Found on another board. The dates of coming over are too early for your William and Maria, but it seemed rather a co-incidence.
" Posted - 07 Oct 2009 : 21:51:04
Early in the 1800s, between 1815 and 1820, William Keoghoe brought his wife, Maria Brouard from Guernsey to Bethnal Green. They started a line of the name Keoghoe that survive today (but only a few). Note the spelling. The name is Irish and the name is associated with County Wicklow and possibly the Fitzjohn estates.
Here's the question. Does anybody know a Keoghoe? Where would I find information and in which parish records about the several children they had? Here's the biggest question of all. Why would William Keoghoe bring a bride to Bethnal Green if what I have read is true: not a very nice place to live at that time. After all, St Peter's Port, Guernsey had a growing economy in shipping." http://www.parishregister.com/messageboard/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1422
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29 May 2013 02:21 |
A tree on Ancestry has this on the record of William and Maria's daughter Jane Ellen Keoghoe, but no documentation. presumably she is 6 yr old 'jane Rogers' on census 1851 previously posted.
"Birth Dec 1843 Shoreditch, London, United Kingdom Born at 4 Providence Place, Charles Square, Hoxton New Town. Mother shown as Maria Keoghoe nee Bionard."
Name: Jane Ellen Keoghoe Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843 Age: 18 Spouse Name: Stephen Belcher - wood cutter Spouse Age: 20 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 13 Mar 1861 Parish: Bethnal Green St Jude Borough: Tower Hamlets Father Name: William Keoghoe - cabinet maker Spouse Father Name: Stephen Belcher - wood cutter Register Type: Parish Register
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29 May 2013 02:27 |
This sibling of Alfred's appears to have been born and died between censuses
Name: Thomas Alfred Keoghoe Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 21 Nov 1886 Father's Name: John Keoghoe Mother's Name: Sarah Ann Keoghoe Parish or Poor Law Union: Bethnal Green St Jude Borough: Tower Hamlets Register Type: Parish Registers
Father a cabinet maker
Sadly
Deaths Mar 1888 KEOGHOE Thomas Alfred 1 Bethnal Green 1c 212
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