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1841 census help please

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cane

cane Report 28 May 2013 15:40

I have just received the marriage certificate for: Edward Walsh to Margaret Tomlinson,8th sep 1845,at the cathedral parish church Manchester,their addresses are both living in Hulme,of full age,Edwards father is Michael Walsh,(carter) ....Margarets father is Robert Walsh (Bricklayer)....please is there any chance of a look up on the 1841 census for either....thank you

Gee

Gee Report 28 May 2013 15:59

1841 England Census
about Edward Welsh Name: Edward Welsh
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Gender: Male
Where born: Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Manchester
Hundred: Salford
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England


Registration District: Chorlton
Sub-registration District: Hulme
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 583
Book: 5
Folio: 14
Page Number: 25
Household Members: Name Age
Michael Welsh 50 <<Labourer b Ireland
Hannah Welsh 55
Edward Welsh 15



Mike *

Mike * Report 28 May 2013 16:02

What was Edward's occupation ?

cane

cane Report 28 May 2013 16:03

Thank you Gins....any chance of Michael and Hannah on 1851 please,

cane

cane Report 28 May 2013 16:05

Slater....i have Edward with Margaret on 1861 and after including death details for both

Gee

Gee Report 28 May 2013 16:06

Wondered if this was MArgaret. She's a farm servant


1841 England Census
about Margaret Tomlinson Name: Margaret Tomlinson
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Gender: Female
Where born: Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Manchester
Hundred: Manchester
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England


Registration District: Chorlton
Sub-registration District: Chorlton upon Medlock
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 580
Book: 9
Folio: 31
Page Number: 54
Household Members: Name Age
Margaret Tomlinson 15



Mike *

Mike * Report 28 May 2013 16:09

To be of full age when married he would have to be born before 1825 ( if he told the truth that is )

Mike *

Mike * Report 28 May 2013 16:13

If you have them on later censuses you could tell us when and where he was born

Gee

Gee Report 28 May 2013 16:15

This looks like the parents


1861 England Census
about Michael Welsh Name: Michael Welsh
Age: 73
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1788
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Hannah Welsh
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland

Civil Parish: Hulme
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration District: Chorlton
Sub-registration District: Hulme
ED, institution, or vessel: 46
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 253
Piece: 2897
Folio: 54
Page Number: 47
Household Members: Name Age
Michael Welsh 73
Hannah Welsh 74

cane

cane Report 28 May 2013 16:16

Hang on..i will dig out the censuses...i am sure though that they both say Manchester...but will check

Gee

Gee Report 28 May 2013 16:18

1851 England Census
about Michael Welsh Name: Michael Welsh
Age: 66
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1785
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Welsh
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Ireland

Civil Parish: Hulme
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
Town: Hulme
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration District: Chorlton
Sub-registration District: Hulme
ED, institution, or vessel: 2g
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 68
Piece: 2221
Folio: 195
Page Number: 18
Household Members: Name Age
Michael Welsh 66
Mary Welsh 68


??

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 28 May 2013 16:20

For reference, this looks like them in 1881 - Edward's a slater's labourer:


1881 England Census about Margret Walsh
Name: Margret Walsh
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Edward Walsh
Gender: Female
Where born: Salford, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Salford
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: 4 Branson St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

View Image

Registration District: Salford
Sub-registration District: Regent Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 67
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3974
Folio: 68
Page Number: 22
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Walsh 60 Manchester
Margret Walsh 50 Salford
William Walsh 21 Hulme
Robert Walsh 17 Manchester
John Parrot 25 (Lodger)
Sushanah Lowe 55 (Lodger)
John Lowe 22 (Lodger)
Ellen Lowe 15 (Lodger)

cane

cane Report 28 May 2013 16:21

Thank you Gins for that 1861...great help

cane

cane Report 28 May 2013 16:23

Thank you argyllgran...yes it is them

cane

cane Report 28 May 2013 16:25

Margaret dies in 1891,salford age 62 yrs old...and Edward 1889 also Salford age 67yrs

cane

cane Report 28 May 2013 16:27

Yes they state Manchester as their birth place,it is only on 1881 that Margaret states Salford as her birth place

Gee

Gee Report 28 May 2013 16:27

Cane

I was wondering if this is Edward's fathers death


Manchester, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1985
Name: Michael Welsh
Age: 77
Burial Date: 4 Nov 1863
Parish: Hulme, St George
Parish as it Appears: Hulme, St George
Reference Number: GB127.M383/1/3/6

And Hannah


Manchester, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1985
Name: Hannah Welsh
Age: 75
Burial Date: 22 Jan 1863
Parish: Hulme, St George
Parish as it Appears: Hulme, St George
Reference Number: GB127.M383/1/3/6

cane

cane Report 28 May 2013 16:34

is there anything showing re: margarets family

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 28 May 2013 16:37

In 1841 there are several Margaret Tomlinsons of about the right age, and born in Lancashire, working as live-in servants, therefore no parents' details.
Of those living at home with parents, none of the fathers are called Robert.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 28 May 2013 16:44

I think this Robert Tomlinson's a bricklayer, though it's very faint on the image:


1841 England Census about Robert Tomlinson
Name: Robert Tomlinson
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1791
Gender: Male
Where born: Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Salford
Hundred: Salford
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

View Image

Registration District: Salford
Sub-registration District: Regent Road
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 586
Book: 9
Folio: 37
Page Number: 13
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Tomlinson 50
Latin Tomlinson 44 (Lettice - mistranscribed)
James Tomlinson 15
Hannah Tomlinson 10
John Ramskin 35
Hannah Ramskin 40